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Precision M4400 Owner's Lounge

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by cnpt, Aug 28, 2008.

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  1. theZoid

    theZoid Notebook Savant

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    I'm going to now.....:)
     
  2. Christoph.krn

    Christoph.krn Notebook Evangelist

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    As I said before on another thread, especially paper towels and alcohol are very evil when cleaning flatscreens. I'm using RONOL Screenclean "RONOL & Vileda Pro 125" to clean my screens, including my M4400 RGBLED one:
    The set I'm using contains a 125ml pump-spray bottle and a special microfiber cleaning cloth by Vileda. You can find usage instructions and more information at the link I provided. Now, the only problem is... I have no idea how to get it wherever you're living. I think it's best if you look for some online shop that sells it.



    PS: And no, I am not working for or affiliated with Ronol.
     
  3. Weegie

    Weegie Notebook Deity

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    :)

    According to dell.....

    "To clean the display for a desktop computer, wipe the screen with a soft cloth
    dampened with water.
    To clean the display screen for a laptop computer, wipe the screen with a soft
    cloth dampened with either water or an LCD cleaner.
    CAUTION: Do not wipe the computer’s display screen with any soap or solution
    not designed for monitors. These solutions can damage the monitor’s anti-glare
    coating. Do not spray cleaners directly onto the screen."


    Personally I use a water dampened soft cloth because....
    .it works
    .it's made in the sky everywhere it rain's
    .it's FREE
    .dell say to use it
    .it's biodegradeable
    .doesn't contain alcohol
    .comes out of the tap in my house

    Help's if you have another dry soft cloth to get rid of smear's.....cheesecloth or microfibre seems to work pretty well
     
  4. trueserve

    trueserve Notebook Enthusiast

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    The stuff that comes out of the tap at your house is particularly harmful. :/

    I use a new microfiber lens cloth every time I clean a screen and warm distilled water or some LCD cleaner solution I bought long ago, but works great.
     
  5. Weegie

    Weegie Notebook Deity

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    Maybe if you live in some grungy polluted city with heavily treated water that you can't drink.....but then common sense would prevail surely? use the bottled water you do drink,boil your tap water....where there's a will,there's a way.....I mean,it's an lcd screen,not some 2 month premature baby with immunodeficiency.
     
  6. PerComp

    PerComp Notebook Consultant

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    That is VERY funny! :D :D :D
     
  7. Christoph.krn

    Christoph.krn Notebook Evangelist

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    Using water is not a good idea either:
    • When you're using water, you have to apply pretty much pressure and wipe a lot to get away any smudges. This greatly increases the risk of scratches, as scratches often are caused by wiping dust over the screen when cleaning it.
    • If you're not using distilled water, the water will cause sediments on the screen when it's drying. This will slowly cause the image quality to get worse and worse.
    The only Reason why Dell says that you can do this is because it's the best cheap solution. This way, if people don't want to spend money on cleaning solutions, they at least don't use window cleaners or paper towels. However, on an expensive screen it's just a stupid idea to NOT use special cleaning solutions; It's really not a big investment so it's not worth saving the money and instead risk scratches or poor image quality on your rather expensive screen. Plus, you don't have to clean that often if you're using a cleaning solution that has antistatic properties.
     
  8. Weegie

    Weegie Notebook Deity

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    Did you get in touch with dell and get an official answer to the reason they recommend water dampened cloth's? if not,it is just your "22 year old I know everything" opinion that comes across in your posts speaking.

    The act of wiping anyhing over dirty screen's has the potential to cause scratching,lcd cleaner,water,dirty cloth's,....common sense,you do know what that is right?

    Lol,water sediment's,yeah right,maybe if your dunking your cleaning cloth's into the nearest puddle on the ground, seriously,stop being such a drama queen,next thing you will be telling us to stop breathing near our monitor's because they may melt or something.

    You keep using your overpriced german lcd cleaning soluton,and I'll keep using what I have done for year's,I'll let you know when the sediment build up becomes too much ok lol
     
  9. Christoph.krn

    Christoph.krn Notebook Evangelist

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    No, I didn't get in touch with Dell and get an official answer to the reason the recommend water dampened cloths. Yes, seems it's just my "22 year old I know everything" opinion that comes across in my posts speaking. It wasn't meant to be an offense to anyone.
    If it felt like one, I'm sorry for it.

    I do a lot of research on topics that I write about. If I'm not sure about something, I will say it. :eek::) That doesn't mean that my posts are automatically free of mistakes and false information, though.

    That is true. Common sense, I have hard of that before. :rolleyes:

    The reason why I wrote this was that while it's clear to anyone that wiping anything over dirty screens has the potential to cause scratching, it's not as obvious that the increase in pressure and "physical stress" needed to clean a screen with water compared to cleaning it with some sort of cleaning liquid is more important than you might think. People are different, so it could well be (I've seen that before, various times) that some people suddenly start to wipe around on the smudges like crazy, just hoping that nothing will happen to their screen while doing it. I've so far seen two screens by two people that were disturbingly scratched by exactly this.


    Sure, do it if you want to. Just that it's fine for me to use a special cleaning solution doesn't mean that it's fine for everyone to do so. However, that's what I highly recommend for expensive screens. The same way, that it's fine for you to use tap water doesn't mean that it's fine for everyone to use tap water. This has caused problems before:

    http://www.amitbhawani.com/blog/remove-lcd-monitor-dust/
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    http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090311044030AAdpLxy
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    Where you can see this pretty often is on aquariums because there's a lot more water than any screen will ever get to see (well, hopefully :)):
    http://freshaquarium.about.com/od/problemsolving/f/whiteresidue.htm
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    Hey, come on - there's no need to get aroused, right? If you feel that my way of communicating is not okay, you can just tell me that. And so should everyone else, because otherwise I can't know. :)

    I never stated I'd know everything. The opposite is the case. Rating me is completely up to others, I would never attempt to call myself something if I don't have a very, very, very, very, very good reason for that.




    I hope you can see that I'm just trying to help here, sharing the information I collected in my head over my life.
    Specifically to Weegie: Thank you for reading this even though you seem to not really like me. If there's anything you would like to talk about with me, you know how to PM me.


    Edit: Again, any comments from anyone on my way of communicating are greatly appreciated. Please PM me.
     
  10. trueserve

    trueserve Notebook Enthusiast

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    I think the LCD screen is a bit more fragile, although it can be shaken without disastrous results...
     
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