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new Dell Precision 5510 (Twin of XPS15)

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by [-Mac-], Sep 3, 2015.

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  1. Dell-Mano_G

    Dell-Mano_G Company Representative

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    I believe they are using a SATA M.2 SSD and Precision will be using PCIe based M.2 SSD's.
     
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    Dell-Mano_G Company Representative

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    The 5510 supports NVIDIA Optimus even with the Xeon CPU so battery life is not drastically affected.
    If you find an enclosure and it support Thunderbolt than it should work. Our solution is. Some others might be locked down.
    I would never hot plug/unplug a GPU.
    As these enclosures are not available today for Thunderbolt 3 I don't know.
     
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    notebookhelp Notebook Consultant

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    Are you sure about the SATA SSD on the XPS 15? Dell's product page states the new XPS 15 is using a PCIe SSD.
     
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    zzing123 Newbie

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    Dell-Mano_G: A few more questions:

    1. The XPS uses the GTX 960M, a 55W GPU with 640 cuda cores. The Precision 5510 uses the Quadro M1000M, a 45W GPU with 512 cores, leading to a curious situation where the workstation and higher value machine has a markedly lesser GPU. This is despite the M2000M being the same 640 core configuration as the 960M. Am I correct in my assumption the chassis can only dissipate 90W and not 100W and you wanted to avoid throttling?

    2. Will we be able to specify either Xeon SKU (E3-1505Mv5 and the E3-1535Mv5) for the 5510, or only the E3-1505Mv5?

    3. None of the specs so far say much about the Wifi card - is it 2x2 or 3x3 antennas, is it 802.11ac wave 1 or wave 2 (ie MIMO)? Furthermore, is the wifi card user replaceable in a chassis as thin as the 5510's?

    4. I'm pretty sure the cause for the delay is something to with a key component supplier. Can you give us a hint as to whether it is: a) Intel's fabs not pumping out Skylake fast enough b) Sea ships are overwhelmed and particularly slow and everyone is penny pinching not realising they can sell a pre-order and have the customer pay for air freight c) Samsung isn't producing SSDs fast enough or d) DDR4 SODIMMs (particularly ECC ones) are few and far between. At least we can vent anger at another avenue other than you guys
     
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    With last years M4800 model the higher res screens were in short supply, so that could also be the case here.
     
  6. szz

    szz Notebook Enthusiast

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    According to http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/precision-m5510-workstation/pd?ref=PD_OC:
     
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    pureAXIS Newbie

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    Does the Precision 5000 series use less power than the XPS 15? The Quadro M1000M is rated at about 40 watts while the GTX960M is rated at 60 watts. I hope this means it will run cooler than the XPS 15.
     
  8. mr_handy

    mr_handy Notebook Evangelist

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    I have the present M3800; they offered 4 and 5 years on it. I believe that was true for the prior XPS 15, as well. I am on my DC input jack, and have had even more of the power adapters die. Dell service is great and they have always replaced them in warranty. It's still a major inconvenience, and I'll be moving back to the sturdier Latitude or full-size Precisions with the new generation.

    The M3800 and the prior (9530) XPS 15 are the same machine, minus one feature nobody really uses (NFC, only on the XPS 15) and the slight difference in video chips (which matters a lot if you run certain software, and is an irrelevancy otherwise.)

    The M2800 and the E6540 were likewise essentially basically the same machine.

    By all signs, the same is true about the current XPS 15 (9550) and the 5510. If you need the ISV-compatible/OpenGL optimized video chip, then you need it, and getting the XPS is a bad idea. Otherwise, it's just a matter of price and available configurations, and there's very little reason to prefer one over the other.

    The M4x00 series was a great deal more different from either the Latitude or XPS models, although whether those differences actually effect software depended on how you configured them. That appears likely to be true for the 7510 as well.

    They haven't made a 17" XPS in a couple years, so if you want 17" the 7710 (or remaining stock/outlet M6800s) are your only option in a relatively high powered machine from Dell.
     
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    mr_handy Notebook Evangelist

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    That's a big plus.

    Yeah; compared to the Latitudes I've had before, it's been an annoyance. Pretty much everything mechanical about the machine has been more fragile than I'm used to -- but then again, the prior machines I've had have mostly been tanks. Really hoping that the 7510 or the Skylake Latitudes will follow the older patterns.

    OTOH, beautiful screen, and non-offset keyboard on a 15" model are huge plusses; lighter weight was a big plus for the first year but I haven't been traveling since I switched jobs a year ago.

    Whether Dell officially supports it or not, any two-DIMM-socket Skylake machine should be able to go to 32GB RAM (there were several Latitude models in the past which didn't officially support 16GB, but if Intel says the CPU supports 16GB -- and sometimes even if it doesn't -- it supports 16GB.)

    Pretty easy to install it on your own anyway, and it's useful to get one with Windows so that you have the license in case you need to sell/give away or dual-boot the system.

    Linux runs beautifully on the M3800, although I have never gotten X to work well with switching to an external monitor "live" -- I have to log out, plug in the external monitor, and restart X.


    Everybody else's similar machines are also delayed. Still no Lenovo P50/P70, no Skylake Latitudes, and the only Skylake Thinkpads are quasi-consumer ones. Not sure what it is, but it seems to be effecting everyone's business notebooks.
     
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    Phinehas Notebook Geek

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    Does anyone know if it will be possible to switch out the Maxwell GPU with a Pascal based GPU in a year or so when they come out? The performance improvements are supposed to be huge.
     
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