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Precision 7510 Owner's Thread

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by scrlk, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. bbeans

    bbeans Newbie

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    At a MASSIVELY increased price from what I can see. The E3-1545M v5 is about $1500 more than the E3-1535M v5. The only difference I can see between these processors on the Intel site is the graphics. Is there any reason to choose the 1545 over the 1535? The Intel site suggests their RRPs are $623 vs $679 so I wonder if the pricing is a mistake?
     
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    oruvin Notebook Guru

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    Dell's UK website shows only £67.20 difference between E3-1535M and E3-1545M.
    However, upgrade to E3-1575M will cost a whopping £583.80.
     
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    ygohome Notebook Deity

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    I don't have as many guest VMs as seven, but I have my guests in VMWare Workstation 12 Pro build 3770994 that I keep on my 1TB PM951 NVMe data drive (with the VM program itself on the system drive 512GB NVMe system drive). Which VM software are you using? If the CPU is pegged I wonder if that could be the CPU cores allotted might be too aggressive? VMWare is supposed to be smart enough and the CPU cores allotted are "virtual" cores and not physical and should not be an issue. But I rarely run all of my VMs at one time anymore. How many of the seven were you running simultaneous? Is the issue with one or more simultaneous Guests and are they all 100% or does it peg at 100% even when just running a single guest? I know that if my CPU allocation is too aggressive or too lite then things like window updates leg at 100%. You may need to experiment with CPU core allotment. Also, if you can provide your BIOS Virtualization Support settings in case they were changed from default or need changing? I can share what I have if you like.
     
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    Aaron44126 Notebook Prophet

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    Might be on to something with VMware/CPU cores. If you are running lots of VMs at once, allocate only one or maybe two CPU cores to each. VMware will not execute any code in a VM unless it has a hold on all of the CPU cores that it needs, if you allocate too many cores then it can have trouble finding time to schedule them.
     
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    The tiny swipe fingerprint reader is made by a vendor "Authentec", or at least it was when I was researching it back when I had my M6500. It is the one that costs $46 and is sold simply as "Fingerprint Reader" in the Dell store

    The fullsize finger print that is on your new Dell is the FIPS reader made by company called UPEK. It is the one that costs $140 USD in the Dell store.

    I don't know which is better but it sounds like you had better luck with the swipe version by Authentec that was on your Sony than the UPEK FIPS that is on your Dell.
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    Dell gives us the option to order the laptop with one or the other (or none as I did [actually I got the smartcard reader as it was min requirment if wanting TB3]) in the Dell US store for the 7510 and 7710. The screeen capture above is from the 7510 DELL online configurator (USA). If the reader you have is not working 4 out of 5 times, I would be asking Dell to replace it (probably they will replace the entire palmrest) or you might even be able to ask for them to swap the palmrest with one having the smaller swipe reader like the one that was on your Sony. Maybe ask them to replace with a like reader, and if that still doesn't work, then ask to replace with a swipe.

    *edit: "Authentec" was bought by Apple in 2012. So I'm not sure exactly who currently makes the swipe fingerprint readers.
     
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    Hi all, long time ThinkPad user here. I finally caved and ordered my Precision 7510 ( and my first Dell) from the Dell Outlet today - well, I actually ordered two. I will have to return one of them and eat the likely restocking fee, I just don't know which one yet. I'm hoping some of you experienced 7510 owners out there can help me decide which to keep. I paid roughly the same for both, so I'm not letting price be a factor here.

    • One is outfitted with an i7-6920HQ, 8GB x 2 (16GB), 256GB SSD, AMD FirePro W5170M (2GB), and Dell's 15.6" UltraSharp FHD IPS (1920x1080) Wide View Anti-Glare LED-backlit with Premium Panel Guarantee.

    • The other has an i7-6820HQ, 16GB x 1 (16GB), 256GB SSD, Nvidia Quadro M1000M (2GB), and Dell's 15.6" UltraSharp UHD IGZO (3840x2160) PremierColor Wide View Anti-Glare LED-backlit with Premium Panel Guarantee.

    I'm uncertain if either of have a Thunderbolt 3 port (this is not a deal-breaker for me). If anybody happens to know Dell's item number/product identifier for Thunderbolt 3/USB-C, please let me know. The closest thing I saw was "W/TC" in my confirmation emails, which I thought may stand for "with Thunderbolt3/USB-C" (wishful thinking, perhaps).

    I'm especially wondering if anyone here can comment on the quality (aside from resolution) of Dell's UltraSharp FHD IPS panel when compared to their UHD IGZO panel. Viewing angle, color gamut, and minimal light-bleed/even light distribution are the most important factors to me. I'll be more than happy to "settle" for the FHD panel so long as it's not a night and day difference - with the obvious perk of getting the faster CPU. After lurking in this thread for a while, it seems that some users have been disappointed by the quality of some UHD IGZO panels. Any input here will be greatly appreciated. Also, I welcome any comment on the FirePro W5170M versus the Quadro M1000M - I've had little luck finding any benchmarks/reviews for this particular FirePro model.
     
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    hadaak Notebook Consultant

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    I was preparing a lab with 7 VM. The 100% and slow perfermance happened when I fired all the VM at one, 4 cores per VM. The VMs are Windows 2012 R2 syspreped templates which do take a few minutes and two reboots to be ready for use. I always do this when I need a clean lab for my work. sometimes I have more vms running and different OSs. I never experienced the 100% cpu lag and the slow execution I saw on the 7510. when the VMs are done prepping they work fine with 4 cores and 4GB of ram each. It was the initial template startup which was very slow and spiked the CPU to 100% for more than 10 mn ! Bios settings are default. I'll do another test soon and see it I get the same behavior.
     
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    The finger print reader is really frustrating :-( sometimes windows does not even react to the finger touch. weird !!! I was expecting top sensitivity especially with the important surface of the reader. And I can't find the DigitalPersoona software for windows 10.
     
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    I got the UHD screen and returned it for an IGZO and I won't go back to the UHD. I'm loving the screen but I'm not an expert in colors and graphics. Brightness is lower than the UHD one. you will have to test one and see it before deciding.
     
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    note that the AMD W5170M is a higher clock version of the R9 M370X. The R9 M370X (as tested in a Macbook Pro) ranks higher performing than the m1000m on some notebookcheck benchmarks. Not sure how that works as it is totally different OS and not all things are equal in those benchmarks to a windows machine running m1000m. I'm an Nvidia fan and would ignore the benchmarks. I have nothing to back that up other than to reinstate I'm an Nvidia fan.

    I have read the ups and downs regarding the IGZO, particularly on the 7510. Some love it and some hate it for many different reasons. . Seems alot have back light bleeding, which I do too on my 7710 but not noticable unless my screen is entirely black with brightness up to max, which normal humans shouldn't do anyway. Again, I have a 7710 which is not an apples to apples comparison. But I'm super happy with my IGZO UHD.

    The one thing that is unavoidable when selecting a UHD is that it is super high resolution. A 15" UHD with native resolution and 100% scaling (ie. no scaling adjustments) would be impossible to use in my opinion. I have a 17" and 100% is impossible to use unless I were looking only image editing.

    Here are some work arounds:

    I have multiple external displays (2560x1400 16:9). With that much real estate the laptop display is secondary and sometimes I close the lid completely. It is a good argument to get a 1080 laptop if you plan to have multiple external displays.

    Other option if you choose the UHD is to adjust the scaling on the laptop. On my 17" I vary it between 125% (if I have my glasses on and if no external display... no other choice.... i needed the realestate)... to my most often favorite scale of 175% (remember I'm on a 17" so for a 15" would probably want 200% - 225%).

    The problem with scaling is that the apps sometimes want to use the scaling of the primary display. If your primary display is a 2560x1400 external as mine is.... that external is at 100%. So, some apps when I drag them to the laptop display (which should be at 175%) is instead displayed as 100% scaling. ie. super small.

    A fix for the above paragraph is to change the native resolution of the laptop from 3840x2160 to be 2048x1152 in windows 10 display settings. Doing that retains the 16:9 ration and it allows the scaling to be kept at 100% and is very usable. That is a very good workaround solution to the above paragraphs dilema. Draging those apps from the 2560x1400 external display (at 100% scale) to the laptop (now at 2048x1152 resolution at 100% scale) is not effected one bit. Of course, now on the laptop you have much less realestate than the native 3840x2160 at 175% scale gave us. But it isn't bad. Although, now you may notice that 2048x1152 is not too far from the 1080 display which is 1920x1080. But when I disconnect from my dock and I use the laptop without external monitors I have to change it again to 3840x2160 and 175% scaling if I want to regain some real estate. Kind of a pain, but not a big deal to have the extra desktop space for my programs
     
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