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M4400 - WUXGA vs WUXGA RGB LED...

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by cruiserandmax, Dec 21, 2008.

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  1. checho

    checho Notebook Consultant

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    mega lol

    I took the photos to see how many glossy was the screen. Obviously, I'm not working with the window in the back xD

    This is my first Truelife screen after lots of years working with matte screens, and the difference (brighter, contrast and reflections) are too big.

    Perhaps I only need time to get used to this. But, I don't know if ask for a change to 2CCFL ...
     
  2. checho

    checho Notebook Consultant

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    After some hours front the new RGBLED screen, my eyes are begin to get used to this. I have to say that I'm working with the brightness at 50-60%!!

    However, I've detect that working with small text (black, blue...) over white background (programming, etc...), the text shows other colors... :S

    I attach a pic... is this normal?

    http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1886/img0906a.jpg
     
  3. Intoxicate

    Intoxicate Notebook Evangelist

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    This problem is caused by ClearType.

    [​IMG]

    You can download Microsoft Power Toy to adjust ClearType: ClearTypePowerToy
     
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    Christoph.krn Notebook Evangelist

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    checho Notebook Consultant

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    I've adjusted the Cleartype, but my experience with the fonts especially typing code (for example, in Dreamweaver) isn't too good. For instance, trying other fonts in DW (default font is Courier) I've found that "l" Arial letter, with Cleartype on, is absolutely red!

    I also tried to switch off Cleartype, but I'm not comfortable either...

    What is your font configuration in development programs such as DW, Zend, etc..?

    By the way, how brilliant is your panel? I'm working with the brightness at 40-50%!! The panel is excessively brilliant!

    Thank you! :)
     
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    That sounds weird... could you make a photo of that? With Arial, "I" is definitely not red on my screen.

    i just stuck with the default Cleartype settings, they are perfectly fine for me whatever font I use.
    Do you have some Linux Live-CD lying around? I can remember that Ubuntu for example has a very easy way to change the detailed settings of subpixel antialiasing (not to be mistaken, I know that subpixel antialiasing is software, not hardware). Just to see if the displays panel might be BGR instead of RGB, for example.

    It is indeed very bright. I'm mostly working with a brightness somewhere between 40% and 60% while writing code.
    Also, your panel seems to be more glossy than mine! There's a lamp behind me right now, and I can only see a reflection of the light bulb on my screen. If I cover it with my body, I can't see any kind of reflection anymore. This is with about 50% screen brightness in a pretty dark room. Again, I could compare this better if you made a picture with similar conditions (screen turned on, something bright in the background, not too bright room)


    By the way, what BIOS revision did your machine come with? If it's not A13, I advise you to upgrade. I recently installed BIOS A13, and the fans are staying slow or off with light load on the CPU/GPU. A big improvement for me compared to A12.

    You're welcome!

    PS: what about the font size? Is it OK for you? :)
     
  7. checho

    checho Notebook Consultant

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    DW with Arial font, Cleartype on (settings by default) and brightess at 40-50%:
    http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7780/img0914c.jpg

    And another photo where you can see the colors of the "white text":
    http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9517/img0932qkr.jpg


    I attach two photos in the same situations: Dark room with lamp behind me and brightness at 40-50%.

    http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5600/img0917c.jpg
    http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5097/img0918t.jpg

    Yesterday, I updated my A12 to A13 BIOS :p

    The font size is perfect! I absolutely love WUXGA.

    About the brightness, in these pics you can compare my old M20 screen at full brightness with M4400 screen at 35%-40% brightness:
    http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6720/img0925w.jpg
    http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6212/img0926h.jpg

    By the way, the "Hardware ID" of the screen is SEC5443
     
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    FYI, I also had problems reading blurry/rainbow-ish text on the M4400 RGB LED. I tried ClearType on XP and Vista, but the "best" result was still not too great. Only on Windows 7 did text become "unquestionably" crisp. Of course, I was using 125% DPI scaling, so that could have come into play.
     
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    Edit: I've opened another thread.
     
  10. Christoph.krn

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    I tried to make some photos, but the only camera I have right now is my mobile phone. The quality of the images was too poor, so I enlarged some screenshots instead:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1832 (Arial)
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1833 (Courier New)
    (You may have to wait a bit until the images I uploaded are approved, before that you will not be able to watch them)
    It looks as if on my screen, the red subpixels are to the left of the letters instead of to the right. But I think it's not a hardware issue, and instead Windows is not correctly aligning the letters to the subpixels, because...

    ...it seems that we have the exact same screen panel. My ID is also "SEC5443". Therefore, I also uploaded some screenshots where you can see my color adjustment I made in the Nvidia Control Panel. I tried to adjust the screen by using a software solution and my eyeballs, but that's kind of hard and not very precise. You can try out the settings to see If they improve you screen's display quality, they should at least come by the red-colored whites. I'm planning to buy a hardware calibration solution somewhen soon, which allows for precise calibration of the screen (which really can make a HUGE difference). I could send you the color profile which I get from the calibration then, it should give you a very, very good (yet maybe not perfect) color reproduction as it's the same screen.

    That looks way better than your previous photos made me think it was. It's the same with my screen.

    Now you also got that problem of not being able to use a screen with a lower resolution in the future, lol. :)

    That must be a CCFL screen, CCFLs loose brightness over the years. LEDs don't.
     
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