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Dell Latitude E5570

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by shanehhhh1, Dec 30, 2015.

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  1. edzep

    edzep Newbie

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    Hello. Good thread. I don't think the idea of having 2 internal SSDs is yet a fully beaten dead horse.

    OK, the 2.5 in. space and M.2 cannot be used at the same time, and, the WWAN M.2 may or may not work, and, best case, would be seen as removable storage.

    I'm wondering if you could have a regular M.2 in place, AND use a 2.5 in. to M.2 adapter for a second SSD. Looking at standard adapters that mimic the 2.5 in. form factor, you would think not. But, how about an adapter limited to M.2 2242 only? That could be done with no physical overlap to the normal M.2 SSD. Would these two be seen as free of conflict by the controller?

    I've got the E5570 with 6300U, and already have it bumped up to 24GB RAM. Kind of overkill, but, the headroom will be nice for my casual photo editing and work with Android Studio.

    I have tried Windows 10, and do not care for it. Plan to install Linux Mint. It appears the best approach to swap space with an SSD and a lot of RAM is still to have a small swap partition for worst case scenario, and expect it to maybe never be used. So, having it on the primary drive could be fine. I may be talking myself OUT of the 2nd SSD... but, it could still be nice to have a second OS on the 2nd SSD, and control boot from the BIOS, rather than messing with GRUB and MBR.

    The 5570 is nicely made and has a very nice FHD screen. I'm not 100% satisfied with the keyboard and touchpad, though I expect to eventually adapt. The keystroke springs lie to me! I would expect that once the spring pressure is overcome, that I have typed a character. Not necessarily! For a key to make contact, it must move just beyond the break point of the spring, and, this requires a heavier stroke, or more deliberate effort at touch typing than I'd prefer.

    2-finger tap for right click is the other issue. First, when I updated my drivers, the 2-finger tap was eliminated. I had to revert to an older driver to get back the 2-finger tap. This had been noted by another user on the Dell forum. Second, though, is that the 2-finger tap is not detected consistently -- not nearly as well as my 2-year-old Acer Chromebook, for example. I have not been able to find a tap angle and intensity, etc. that gives consistent results.

    Ahah! But, that touchpad issue is on Windows, with that backdated driver. When I tried Mint on a live CD, I was pleased to find the 2-finger tap is very forgiving -- it works exactly as it should.
     
  2. Magiro

    Magiro Newbie

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    Hi, I actually bought a 2.5in to M.2 adapter and physically cut it in two pieces in order for it to fit. I also bought the additional cable and the cradle to fit the disk. The cradle obviously also had to be cut to fit.

    With this arrangement, the BIOS identified both the adapted 2.5in disk and the original M.2 disk sitting beside it. I started installation with a RAID 1 setup and got half way through when I started to receive strange errors. I did many iterations, trying to install a raided linux os on the disks.

    It seems that it was the cut 2.5/M.2 adapter that was at fault, since I could swap out the M.2 card in the adapter and put it in the original M.2 slot (with the help of some tape) and make it work.

    I never understood what was the problem; the cut 2.5/M.2 in adapter seemed only to go through a ground plane and no conductive track seemed to be damaged. Also, mainly the os could communicate well with the cut disk when I tried to use it, it was only after awhile during installation it failed. Maybe, it was some grounding problem, I do not know.

    One variant would be if there are any 2.5in connector / M.2 connector adapters with a smaller footprint than a full 2.5in disk. I have looked for such a device, but haven't found any.

    Anyone having any ideas?
     
  3. edzep

    edzep Newbie

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    It seems like this might do the job. But, you'd have to find a way to stabilize it.

    https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...l-Board-for-Half-Size/607905_32495221012.html

    EDIT -- Here we go; it took a while to find this on Amazon:
    https://www.amazon.com/Solid-SATA3-...020779&sr=8-17&keywords=adapter+sata+ngff+2.5

    Here's another, listed on Newegg (ship from Hong Kong), with more specs.

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...0&cm_re=m2_to_sata-_-9SIA1JM3JX6560-_-Product

    Another. No idea what this outfit is: https://www.buyincoins.com/item/64390.html

    One more. No ordering info, but, saved for the terms and part number, for possible further searches: http://www.soarland.com/NGFF_M.2_to_Half_Slim_SATA_Adapter-product-476.html
     
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    edzep, many thanks for these links, they look very promising.

    I think for the stabilisation, we could perhaps use the case from a cut 2.5in disk case and keep our fingers crossed that the breadth of the board of the these half-sized adapters over the 2.5in /sata connector is the same as the breadth of such an 2.5in disk case. Absent that, perhaps just stabilise it with a small dot from a glue gun?

    However, unfortunately, I bought a 500G M.2 2260 card (for $250) and it wouldn't fit these adapters that you found. I searched some of the retailers that you linked to, but I could not find such a board. Only full size adaptors that include also M.2 2280. Such boards are to long and would have to be cut. Therefore, they may become unstable as I wrote above.

    Unless I find a dedicated M.2 2240/2260 board, I suppose I have to shell out another $250 for a M.2 2240 flash disk. Annoying...

    Anyway, thanks for the links.
     
  5. _pk

    _pk Notebook Enthusiast

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    I know I'm kinda resurrecting this thread, but maybe someone will find this info useful.

    My Dell shipped with HD display from factory (I bought it used tho, but checked the specs on Dell's website), but since I can't take neither low quality nor low resolution displays, I risked and ordered Samsung's LTN156HL02-201 PLS FHD screen with hope it will work fine. And it did, it appears my laptop had 2 lane eDP cable despite having only 1 lane display from the factory. But keep in mind the display bezel is taped to the screen, so it might not be an easy task for everyone. It wasn't that bad tho. I tried to keep as much as possible stock tape at the bezel and I just put the bezel back on without adding any tape or anything. Some tape I couldn't save, some spots aren't factory-like, but in general it ended up pretty nice.
     
  6. btx1980

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    Hello all,

    Sunday night I was trying to wipe out finger prints from my display with Rogge Duo-Clean and suddendly the picture collapsed and it looks like a crack on the screen but there is definitely no crack. I called Dell and they send a technician to replace the display. However, once he saw the display he told me that he is not supposed to replace it as it looks like the display was mechanically treated.

    Have you ever heard about cracking the laptop screen while wiping finger prints with a cleaner especially made for LCD, TFT etc displays?

    I hope Dell will still replace the screen under my "Onsite Service After Remote Diagnosis".

    If not, do you know which display should I buy to replace the AUO (1920x1080 matt) I had?

    HWiNFO says it is a
    AU Optronics B156HW01 V1
    B156HAN [DELL P/N: R9P60]


    I guess Dell l will ask much more money to replace it than I have to pay for a display on the internet. Woluld you make sure to get the same AUO panel or can I also change to Samsung oder Philips etc.

    Many thanks for your comments
     
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