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Precision 7730,5530,7530 (Coffee Lake) pre-release

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by sench, Sep 25, 2017.

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  1. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I have to UNDERCLOCK my 6820HK to keep the temps in line. The cooling on this generation of Alienwares is embarrassing with the cheap 3 point mounts they used on the CPU :(

    I am in a holding pattern waiting for the next gen of Alienware laptops to see what they have to offer. Not even considering the current 6-core stuff (which is "2" gens newer than mine) since it has the same crippled cooling design. It seems like they take the design more seriously on the precisions as it relates to being functional, durable, reliable, and stable.
     
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    3 days to go...
     
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    I'm still holding out on replacing my 7710 keyboard (has busted f3 key switch) just incase a 7730 keyboard will work with it. :) Whoever gets a 7730, please post photos of the keyboard connector cables, etc.
     
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    disappointing WWDC makes me want to stick to non-mac laptop even more...
     
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    I'm looking to get the precision 5530 with the Quadro p2000 graphics.
    What's strange is the VRAM is only 4gb as opposed to 5gb.
    Why is this and is there any difference besides the lower VRAM?
    Since the p2000 is based off the counter gtx1060, it should theoretically outperform the gtx1050ti in gaming despite not optimized for gaming.
    Also even with the zeon CPU, all the ram config is only available with non-ECC memory up to 32gb.

    5530 config page:
    http://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop...zQ5LCJPcHRzIjpbeyJJZCI6IkdTM0ZUVkwifV19XX0%3D

    I originally thought the Xeon CPU wasn't compatible with ECC memory but then I read this thread where it say's it is, just the dell doesn't supply it.

    Link
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-for-precision-5510-i7-and-xeon.784857/page-2

    If the old 5510 is combability, I assume the new 5530 is also.
    Can someone confirm this?
     
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    Aaron44126 Notebook Prophet

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    People tried ECC in the 5510 and found it to be non-functional. The thread you link is a speculation thread and has a post from Dell-Mano_G (Precision product manager) explicitly stating that ECC memory is not supported in the 5510. Because of this, the Xeon doesn't offer much benefit in the Precision 5000-line aside from a minor clock speed boost. (I think the fastest Core i9 processor is as fast as the fastest Xeon for this new generation, though.)

    There is presently no reason to believe that ECC memory would work in the 5530, but we won't know for sure unless someone tries it. ECC memory does work with Xeons in the Precision 7000 line.

    I've used mobile Quadros for gaming and they work as well as GeForce cards with the same specs (architecture, shader count, and clock speed). They are a bit more expensive, though. If you don't need the Quadro-specific features you may be better off looking at an XPS 15.
     
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    I know with the current and prior gen Quadro (P and M) perform on par with their equivalent gtx counterpart in terms of gaming.
    So with this in mind, there is really no reason to go for the gtx1050ti max q since the p2000 even outperforms the standard even the gtx1050ti in games not to meaning in cad design although I have a feeling the p2000 with only 4g of vram might be a crippled p2000 with 5gb of vram.

    If this is the case with the ECC memory, it's most likely not going to work with the 5530 with is very disappointing.
    Still shouldn't xeons still perform better with cad due to having more l3cache?

    If I'm going to buy a thin and powerful consumer 15.6" system, the XPS 9570 would be the last on my list. Too many better choices like the aero 15x v8 and 2018 razorblade with gtx1070 max q with fhd 144hz or uhd display options and equity thin bezels.

    IMO Dell played it way to safe with the new xps 15.
     
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    Xeon E-2176M and Core i9 8950HK both have 12MB cache. My point with the comparison to the XPS 15 is, as far as I can tell, the only difference between the current XPS 15 and the Precision 5530 is the GPU, and that the Precision 5530 is more configurable to order. (Identical chassis, very similar BIOS, etc.) Granted, the GPU may be the deciding point for you depending on your workload, but if you don't need a Quadro, XPS 15 can probably be acquired for cheaper.

    Maybe TechPowerUp's database is not updated/correct yet for the new Quadros, but according to it, the GeForce 1050 Ti (768 shaders / 1493 MHz) and the Quadro P2000 mobile (768 shaders / 1557 Mhz) are looking really similar. The P2000 is certainly not as powerful as a GeForce 1060.

    This is not a desktop Quadro P2000. While NVIDIA has taken to using the same names between the mobile and desktop GPUs recently (dropping the "M" suffix that they used to use), the GeForce do have pretty similar specs between the mobile and desktop versions but the Quadros are still rather different between the two even though they have the same name.
     
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