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32GB RAM (16GB x 2) now available for Precision 5510 (i7 and Xeon)

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by Billy Cantor, Dec 3, 2015.

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  1. Billy Cantor

    Billy Cantor Notebook Consultant

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    A sneak peek at an upcoming Micron 16GB SoDIMM with ECC. The main SKU is qualified at PC4-2400 speeds (with a PC4-2133 version theoretically available for custom order with a -2G1 extension instead of -2G3).

    Micron MTA18ASF2G72HZ-2G3
    https://www.micron.com/resource-details/260fb0f0-9d33-463c-898f-797980f87c8f

    Avnet recently put these up for pre-order (for OEMs, in batches of 100 pcs). The modules are currently in low-volume "sampling" to OEMs, but we should hopefully be seeing a retail version available in Q1 2016.
    http://avnetexpress.avnet.com/store...04551564401/An-0?action=part&catalogId=500201

    For the truly adventurous, netcomponents.com is listing 10,000+ of these as available from two suppliers out of China.
    http://www.netcomponents.com/sitemap/MTA18ASF2G72HZ-2G3.html
     
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    Yes. What I meant was, Dell does not yet offer individual "ECC" memory sticks greater than 8GB. Which means maximum ECC system RAM would be capped at 32GB in a 7000 series (having four ram slots... 4x8GB=32GB ECC cap) or capped at 16GB ECC in a 5510 (having two ram slots... 2x8GB=16GB ECC cap).

    but now, without going through Dell for the RAM, it is possible to get 16GB ECC sticks. Thus, allowing a 64GB ECC 7000 series system (or a 32GB ECC 5510 system).
     
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    yes but ECC RAM sticks from Dell, so far, has a max capacity of 8GB per stick. Which is what makes this thread interesting to me, that 16GB ECC DDR4 sticks are available through other retailers.
     
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    I saw three gskill 32GB 2x16GB kits
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    I saw three gskill 64GB 4x16gb kits

    none were ECC though which is what I think the point is. Billy found 16GB ECC DDR4 SODIMMs which is cool.. Do I need ECC for a workstation? probably not, but is cool
     
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    To set the record straight, the 5510 does not support ECC memory. Not sure where this info came from but just wanted to clear it up.
    madebydell.com
     
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    This information came from my ASSumption. Figured since it had serveresque Xeon CPU it certainly must have serveresque ECC RAM, even if not sold through dell. The Intel ARK says Xeon 1505M supports ECC. But this is why you are here, to explain this to us. To be very clear... 5510 is not able to run with ECC memory? Or it is not "Dell Supported" to run ECC? I assumed a xeon purpose in life is to support ECC, Why else choose that as a CPU option? I know it's not for marketing purpose, right?

    I'll study the Intel Ark specs sheets Xeon E3-1505M vs iCore equivalent to learn more.

    still is nice to know 16GB ECC sticks exist


    *after a quick study... equivalent i7 core to the Xeon E3-1505M is the i7-6820HQ (i7-6820hq is approx $50+ [USD] less than the 1505M and 100Mhz slower [*NOTE: these dollar comparisons are not from Dell but from the Intel Ark]).... or the i7-6920HQ vs Xeon 1505M (6920hq is spprox $120+ more than the Xeon 1505M and 100Mhz faster). All other comparisons appeared to be equal, except for the Xeon supporting ECC. Just seems strange to offer an oddball Xeon as an upgrade with the only plus being it is 100Mhz faster than the i7-6820HQ.
     
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    I agree. In the desktop world guys have been running Xeons in consumer-grade mobos for a while now. The mobo manufacturers do not officially support ECC memory on their boards but they do work, since the memory controller resides in the CPU.
     
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    Thanks Mano_G. Very interesting. I read reviews of the Precision 5510 which also said that it supported Xeon + ECC, but it looks like a variety of people including myself just made or echoed that assumption.

    In contrast, the HP ZBook requires ECC RAM with the Xeon processors. I wonder what hardware difference vs. Precision makes that a requirement for ZBook (per their spec sheets).

    So in the end, is there any hardware difference between the XPS 15 and the Precision 5510 other than the faster CPU options, the upgraded GPU, and the Precision branding? Is there anything different on the motherboard? Additional QA on the machines? I love the idea of having a Precision workstation but with long backorder times the in-stock and less expensive (but also slightly slower) XPS 15 UHD machines are very tempting.
     
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    Okay, that makes sense. Just not "supported" for some reason or other. Wondering why that is[?] in the back of my mind, but likely because it requires some more in depth and costly assurance that isn't worth spending?


    is a rhetorical question. But I believe you are spot on
     
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    The current DDR4 seems to be 1.2V as shown in photos from Bokeh's 5510 review
    http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...e/product/DS_DDR4_4Gb_K4A4G085WD-BC_Rev11.pdf

    The HP G3 Studio states 1.35V ECC - which are going to offer both E3-1505M and E3-1545M
    http://h20195.www2.hp.com/V2/GetPDF.aspx/4AA4-6108ENW.pdf

    I hope the "supported" question gets confirmed from real life trials real soon. Still hoping to see the E3-1545M soon ;)
     
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