Precision 7510 Owner's Thread

ECC memory - - - I do not see why the 7710 and 7510 would be any different here. They use the exact same BIOS. The memory controller is in the CPU anyway. I would be surprised if Crucial ECC memory did not work --- assuming the memory is capable of operating at the speed that the CPU likes --- but it's not my money at risk here

Dock - - - The ePort dock still works, but I have been using the Dell WD15 USB-C dock for several months without any real issues. It is listed on their site usually as just "Dell dock", but you can get it cheaper elsewhere like Amazon. Compared to the Thunderbolt TB15 dock, the main downsides are that it does not support multiple 4K monitors attached (it can do two 1080p at 60 Hz, or one 4K at 30 Hz) and it does not have an additional USB-C/Thunderbolt port on it. Note that with both the USB-C dock and the Thunderbolt dock, you need to attach an AC adapter directly to the laptop in addition to the dock cable (the dock cannot provide enough power by itself), but with the ePort dock, all you have to do is snap the laptop down onto it and everything is connected in one go.

 

I can't comment on the memory, but on the dock, I use this one, https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Replicator-240-Watt-Adapter-Latitude/dp/B00CLYV75A. The dual display port and dvi outputs will let you multiple 2k displays, and possibly multiple 4k (don't have one to check.) I ordered a used one from Amazon last year for $79, less than the price of just a new high output power supply. I've not had any problems with it.

 

I reinstalled win 10 from scratch, and I use chrome all the time with no issues.
My graphic drivers were just the ones loaded by windows, and the dell update program.
I'll check and post what version I'm using.

I'm using the Dell d3100 dock and it's mostly okay. My two external monitors aren't very high res but I don't have any issues like disconnections/etc.
I have Some graphic artifacts (blocks?) over some letters. I also use displayfusion and aquasnap so that might be part of it. (I use displayfusion at work too, and I have
some refresh issues)

 

I think I happen to hit on the perfect storm causing the issues I was having. I've circumvented the drivers from crashing by disabling accelerated hardware in chrome settings.


BIOS 1.06.06
- VIDEO settings in BIOS - switchable graphics enabled + Enable Dock Display Port (to my understanding this allows display port 1 of ePORT dock to be fully driven through dGPU even though iGPU is enabled via switchable graphics)
- two 2560x1440 external displays via EPORT docks two display ports
- nVidia 362.46 but I've tried earlier and later drivers with same outcome
- Intel driver 20.19.15.4531
- in Nvidia control panel I've experimented with various "Manage 3D settings" as it relates to global and program specific (chrome in this case) settings. Also tried useing the "Let the 3D application decide" and also the "performance/quality" slider.

Here is what I'm experiencing. And I only began noticing it a week or two ago. Any video I put into full screen on the laptop display (4K display) the external displays lose their connection, both Intel and Nvidia drivers crash, and MS Windows error notifying me that windows stopped my video drivers because of conflict. No idea what the conflict is unfortunately.

Seems to be a possible optimus issue in that the laptop display going full screen in a video (youtube for example) is what causes the crash. I'm going to experiment this weekend when I'm not working to see if I disable switchable graphics if the problem goes away. My workaround until then is to not watch youtube videos while I work ... but really my workaround so far has been to disable Accelerated Hardware in chrome settings. For edge I have no such workaround as there is not such an option with Edge. But I don't use edge really. IE has not had any problem. Have not tried other browsers and have not been in other tools like Premiere to experiment recently.

*edit: also, I posted in this thread (my mistake), but I have 7710 not 7510. But I think 7510 and 7710 maybe similar enough my issue is not specific to 7710. But I should perhaps post this in 7710 thread instead except I don't want to cross post.

 

I think you might be backwards on this... If you check the "enable dock display port" box then one of the DisplayPorts is driven by the iGPU and the other by the dGPU... but if you leave it unchecked then both are driven by the dGPU. Anyway you can check for sure by opening up the NVIDIA control panel and see which displays you can manipulate from there --- those are attached to the dGPU.

I've also had a few issues mixing and matching GPUs. I do remember have display driver crashes when trying to do full-screen video in Edge. I'm using a WD15 dock now so everything runs on the iGPU (but max resolution of docked displays is 1080p with this dock). I also have the NVIDIA control panel set to prefer the integrated GPU for Optimus rather than "automatically decide", so I specifically whitelist apps that I want to use the dGPU.

You can likely resolve it by disabling switchable graphics / Optimus (use dGPU for everything), or switching to a TB15 dock (use iGPU for everything). In the former case you will run into the NVIDIA auto contrast on battery issue, and in the latter case you will run into the fact that the TB15 docks are darn flaky

 

Thanks Aaron, I probably have it mixed up in my head which BIOS video boxes checked. I'll experiment with what you said this weekend. I don't mind using dGPU for everything except it would sometimes cause awake from sleep to misbehave (blank laptop screen sometimes), but that was a few BIOS versions ago. I probably won't invest in a different dock yet though

 

My unit just arrived. Dell Precision 7510 with:

• Intel Quad Core Xeon E3-1575M v5 3.00GHz
• 64GB(4X16G) 2133MHZ DDR4 ECC Memory
• 15.6" UltraSharp UHD IGZO (3840x2160) Panel
• Nvidia Quadro M2000M w/4GB GDDR5

Entered BIOS and diagnostics to check the system. Waiting for 2x Samsung 960 Pro M.2 NVMe 2TB SSDs. Will do a backup of the original and current M.2 I added to get the interproser etc. Perhaps, or probably, they will be reused in another system.

I have noticed some mixed impressions about different Panels. I will get back with my own when I used the IGZO for a while.

I´m curious about the speed of the NVMe connected to the interproser card drive. I suspect theoretical 2x 985 MB/s. I´m a bit concerned about sufficient cooling (with a margin), electronics running hot do not always lasts, have to solve that.

One screw holding the thermal cover for the 4x M.2 slot was pulled to tightly and had to be fixed and replaced. It´s not that uncommon to nowadays on all kinds of products, unfortunately.

Moving from a Dell Precision M4800 with (now the new expendable backup):

• Intel Quad Core Extreme 3.0GHz i7-4930MX
• 32GB (4x8GB) 1600MHz DDR3L
• 15.6" UltraSharp QHD+ (3200x1800) Panel
• NVIDIA Quadro K2100M w/2GB GDDR5
• 2x Samsung 850 PRO 1TB SSD + 1x Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD

I liked the QHD+ panel in the M4800 and therefore opted for the IGZO panel for the new Precision 7510. Time will tell…

 

I have been looking for speed test results with NVME through the interposer as well, but so far I've had no luck. If you get a chance to run this please post your results.

Regarding your cooling concerns, are you concerned with the heat damage to the interposer or to the NVME stick?
Assuming the NVME through interposer is limited to 2x PCI-E (instead of 4x in the primary slot) which I believe I read somewhere, I am not sure if would ever get hot enough to even throttle itself. I could be wrong as I'm just assuming here, but it seems like if the chip can't operate at/near it's fullest potential it likely wouldn't get as hot.

 

Has anybody tried using the "Special Graphics Mode" with an external monitor connected via the mDP?

If I enable special graphics mode, the computer will not recognize any monitor connected to the mini display port. If I turn off special graphics mode, it does recognize the monitors connected.

Can anybody confirm their machine is experiencing the same behavior?

 

I have a problem since a few weeks that my Bluetooth is not working anymore after reboot.

I have to enable the 'Intel Wireless Bluetooth" in device manager every time to make it work again?
I reinstalled the driver, removed the device etc...

Anybody an idea?