Next Generation Dell Precision Mobile Workstations press release

ETA is 11/30. I configured everything base except the processor and the IGZO panel.

That sounds like a good plan. I personally need the 2.5" slot for the now, so I'm going to cope with the smaller battery.

 

yep, understood.. same reason an NBD onsite warranty makes sense. But what a price gap for the Precision on the Canadian site.

Obviously a drop in the bucket for a business but for an individual, the Quadro K2000M can be had for $100.

Probably work the same, depends if the XPS has an MXM interface. Could even upgrade the video card to a M2000M.

 

Only problem is the GPU is soldered in if I'm not mistaken or else XPS might be an option. Actually spent some time today with one in a Microsoft Store, keyboard felt good, no problem with space bar. Screen seems nice, not sure I'll realistically ever use the touch aspect of it. The most appealing feature is the size and weight. Going up to a P50 or 7510 basically gets me a M2000M over the 1000. I don't think that justifies the extra bulk for me personally.

 

So i am not the only one who noticed the same too. I was shocked when i saw the final build price for the CDN 5510 when compared to the XPS. Even if you compare the US 5510 to the CDN 5510, over 1k price difference for same build. The SSD drives are double in price too compared to the US SSD pricing. The only difference i found is that the US 5510 is pre-discounted by a grand while the CDN 5510 is at "regular" price

 

If you need professional OpenGL, then, yes, the Quadro is that much better. This is not a matter of support as another poster speculated; it's about pure, raw performance. The difference between a Quadro and a GeForce in such applications is HUGE.

And, yes, that's an artificial difference (which makes Nvidia and others a ton of money), but it is what it is. If you need workstation graphics for work, then you need a Quadro card, and you won't even think about getting anything else. If you're looking for a gaming toy, then there's no point in getting a Precision. None at all.

 

Not sure what you guys are seeing but I configured an equal XPS 15 to the Precision 5510 and the Precision was only $300 more, not that significant IMO.

 

I got fingerpointing between sales and support when I tried to get the bigger battery for my M3800; I'd recommend ordering it with the extended battery if you can. At least in the US, the prices for the PCI-E SSDs preinstalled are not that awful; I'm likely to just get one from Dell rather than upgrading it, but if not it might make sense to just order it with the smallest one and upgrade.

That may come down, or may even be improvable with a direct call to sales. At least on the US site, you can often find 3 different prices for the same configuration depending on how you access it and the promotions, and then sales over the phone will have different pricing yet. And that's not counting premier/dedicated reps/EPP.

No way to get MXM in a machine as small as the 5510. Maybe the next generation of MXM cards will be smaller, but if you want upgradeable graphics, look at the 7510.

Not even clear how much money it makes in this particular case; comparably equipped, the two machines will probably be selling for parity when the demand for the brand new one flags in a couple of months. They're already pretty close on the US site, and the 5510 can be had cheaper outright if you don't mind a truly stripped configuration.

There are plenty of other professional uses where the Quadro is unnecessary, but Dell no longer has anything else in their model line appropriate. I'm a software developer -- I need fast cores, as many of them as I can get, and a lot of RAM. I don't have any professional use for anything beyond 2D integrated graphics. For the Haswell generation, my only reasonably light choices from a major business manufacturer were the M3800/XPS 15 or jumping ship to Lenovo for the T440p.

That's about what I was seeing on the US small business site (even less of a difference on Premier, as they don't discount XPS for the Premier account I have access to, and the Premier pricing on a non-contract Precision model is a little better than public.)

 

Thanks for the tips, I did some online searching of Dell replacement batteries and given these notebooks are new they may be hard to find.

I'm not familiar with the m3800, how much did the Dell official replacement battery cost you?

 

Where did you read this ? I checked the owners manual and the only things it says about PCIei on page 50 is:

That suggests to me that it is PCIe 3.0.

 

One of the Dell reps said it's an error and they probably fixed it now to say it really is 3.0