Kaby Lake Precision pre-release discussion (5520 / 7520 / 7720)

John, you're absolutely right. When I got my current Alienware and I put a Samsung Pro SSD in it, I was anal retentive reading all of the forums on SSDs, and how they said you need to format it to leave a percentage of space on the drive unused so it won't slow down, etc. But today, after using it for years, the only time I really find myself waiting in any way for the drive is booting up and when transferring files. I suppose it makes a difference in my video editing in terms of speed to render and write the rendered file to the drive as it works, but even there the CPU is by far the biggest bottleneck. And even with the bootup speed, which was amazing when I first got an SSD, I slow that down as I have more and more programs/utilities in the start-up. But it's still fast enough I don't dread having to do a reboot.

At this point, I've pretty well narrowed my new system down to the new 5520 (not because its that much better than the 5510, just like to purchase the newest) But I'm going to hope my old M17x holds out for about another 3 months just to see the reports come in on the new system. The other approach I was looking at was the light thin Thinkpads, due to their reputation, but I can't seem to find one on the Lenovo site with a quad core.

 

Sorry man.. but i'm bit confused..
i would like to buy a new workstation for my work (i'm an architect.. young.. 33). Till now i worked in mobility with my last university notebook: a dell Studio XPS 1640 (p9600 32gb ssd512 radeon 4630).

Actually.. i need more power (using autocad, sketchup, rendering with vray.. photoshop..) and i'm looking for a workstation.

I love the new xps line.. thin.. elegant.. minimal.. and i see that the Precision M5000 series follow this path.
In this thread, i see that people say that the quadro m1200 4gb that it's included into this notebook isn't much powerful for a workstation.

But i think that we have to consider what kind of work the notebook have to support.
Till now.. my notebook work very well with this kind of operation (now.. render with many poly and bigger textures, increase a lot the time for a render..).. and is a 7years old computer..

Do you think that this new precision m5000 could cover my work for the next 5 years?

Do you know if there are other notebook with similar and thin line but more powerful?

Thankyou!

 

If your 7 year old computer works perfectly adequate with your current workflow, you really shouldn't have a problem with more far more modern hardware. I have to render on average, 100K+ elements on my workstation, you probably don't. Thus, a middle of the road and rather elegant precision 5000 should cover you for quite a while.

 

Yes we are complaining because we were hoping for a Pascal card, but really, the card is fine and about the best you are going to get in a "slim"-type workstation.

The GeForce 1050 in the new XPS 15 will be a bit faster for applications that do not utilize the Quadro GPU's features (but not transformatively so). As your work is graphics heavy, you should look into whether or not having a Quadro adds any benefit to you, and if it does not, also take a look at the XPS 15. Aside from the GPU, there aren't many differences between it and the Precision.

It looks like to get a Pascal Quadro right now you'd have to settle for a "giant" 17" laptop.

 

Looks like Quadro M1200 is 1.4 TFLOPS SPFP Performance, which is faster than 1.3 TFLOPS of Gtx 960m. But its slower than 1.9 TFLOPS of Gtx 965m and 1.7 TFLOPS of GTX 1050.

Single Precision Floating Point performance of some similar powered cards
Quadro M1200 1.4 TFLOPS
GTX 1050M 1.7 TFLOPS
GTX 960M 1.3 TFLOPS
GTX 965M 1.9 TFLOPS
GTX 940MX 0.9 TFLOPS

Radeon 455 1.3 TFLOPS
Radeon 460 1.9 TFLOPS

However its faster than Radeon Pro 450 and Radeon Pro 455 of Macbook Pro 15 (2016).

EDIT: Updated data.
PS: GTX 965m > GTX 1050 Mobile. So guys I guess surfacebook with performance base would be having slight edge in graphics against XPS 9560 & Precision 5520 both. But cpu in Dell being quad core beats surfacebook.

 

Works better than other older notebook.
With render I have some problem with long time.. i can't wait 20min to do a simple render every time..

I would like to know how a quadro m1200 (pascal or not) is more fast than 1050 of xps.

So.. In your opinion.. Mobile 1050 is faster than quadro m1200?

With render and modelling in directx 11? (Sketchup)

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Quadros have some additional computational capabilities leveraged by some apps, particularly in the CAD and 3D modeling space, that are not available on GeForce cards. You'll have to check specific apps to see if they utilize the Quadro's abilities at all, but if they do, the performance could be more than double that of a comparable GeForce which would put it a Quadro M1200 ahead of the GeForce 1050.

See the top answer on this post for some more details: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10532978/difference-between-nvidia-quadro-and-geforce-cards
As you can see in the chart, performance can vary drastically depending on what you are running, you can't boil it down to a single "speed" number for each GPU.

 

Have yall seen this? Only professional use I've seen of the M1200. Recommendations for Photoshop.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/adobe-photoshop-cc.html
http://images.nvidia.com/content/quadro/quadro-mobile/pdf/adobe-premier-pro-solution-overview.pdf

 

Hmm. I'm more interested in it's use in Premiere Elements (or Cyberlink PowerDirector.)

 

My understanding is that the Pascal GPUs have native HEVC/265 encode/decode. So that may lead you more towards the XPS 15 if you are doing video encoding.