Kaby Lake Precision pre-release discussion (5520 / 7520 / 7720)

I just ordered a Precision 7720 in Germany. Delivery date in the confirmation mail was on or before April, 13th.

 

Anyone know what the TDP on the WX 7100 is? I wish I could get my hands on this MXM card for my M6800. I've been trying to find a w7170m gpu for it but it is really hard to find

 

I am running a 4K 7710, 4K U3216Q, and 1600p U3014 with a TB16 dock. With scaling at 200% on the 7710, 125% on the U3216Q, and 100% on the U3014, things are pretty close to the same size. The only time I have an issue when an application is straddling two screens. Like you said, it will big big on one screen and small on the other. Once a window is all on one screen, it snaps to the new scaling really quickly. The new Windows 10 update is supposed to further tweak UI scaling, but right now I don't have an issue spanning three screens.

 

Anybody know whats the rationale for not having a Pascal card option for the 7520? The 7720 looks nice but its more expensive, heavier and larger than what I really need.

 

NVIDIA did not produce any low-end Pascal mobile Quadros, opting for upgraded Maxwell versions instead. The high-end Pascal mobile Quadros require the MXM 3.0b form factor, and as such they are too large to fit into most 15" systems. You'll see the same choices available in competitor workstations (Lenovo and HP).

 

Yeah, you are right. I think most programs now scale properly according each displays scale % setting. Mine works pretty well except for my older programs and some newer software from companies that deem it lower priority to fix scaling in their product (Intuit Quickbooks Pro). I set my primary to be a external 1440 monitor at 100%. When I open programs they are supposed to scale according to the the % scale assigned to each display. And I think you are right, most scale properly. But some programs don't adjust to the scaling and they retain the scale of the primary (on mine it is 100%). Internet Explorer for example doesn't scale properly. Chrome browser mostly works, but when in Chrome settings to "save to a file" the window that appears is at whatever the primary display is at (ie 100% for me and on my 4k that is tiny).

Eclipse developer is another one that doesn't scale properly and my older software dev tools and some Adobe programs don't scale properly. VMware Worstation works well for the guest VMs if they span multiple displays but the VMware Workstation window itself does not scale except to the primary display's %. Those programs keep the scale of what the primary display is and not the scale of the monitor they are appearing on. For some of these I'm using manifest files and works great. The others I keep to the external displays (which are at 100%) and I don't move them often. But I think that list of programs is getting shorter (good).

After using this setup for over a year now I like it alot, but could be a shock for someone experiencing it at first.

 

According to this site:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2923/quadro-p3000-mobile

The P3000 (1060 equivalent) fits form factor MXM 3.0a, so it would fit in the same space as the M2200M. The 75W TDP does exceed the -a spec though, pushing it into -b spec territory, but this seems like an odd barrier considering that Dell or NV could have underclocked and undervolted the P3000 to basically get a 1050 equivalent. Or NV could have released a P2000 based on the 1050. Either way, it's a very disappointing limitation for the 7520.

 

My understanding is that the P3000 is closer to a desktop 1060 card. It is slightly faster than the mobile 1060.

I agree with you though. A Quadro P2000 version of the 1050ti would have been great, but it doesn't look like anyone has that yet.

 

NVIDIA has a blog post linked earlier in this thread (here it is) and it is pretty clear from there that they do not (currently) intend to release any Pascal mobile Quadros below the P3000, and that the refreshed Maxwell Quadros are intended to fill the lower performance gap.

I'm also skeptical about the TechPowerUp classification of the P3000 as a MXM 3.0a GPU. I've exchanged messages with the guy who runs that site before and he is just working with the best information that he has while trying to get information on new cards up quickly, so I don't think that it can be taken as a definitive source of truth. Also, I've been watching the GeForce MXM cards, and I haven't seen a 1060 at less than MXM 3.0b size. (And in fact, all 1070 cards that I've seen are larger than the standard 3.0b size.) I'd be pretty surprised to see a 3.0a-sized P3000 at this point.

Don't get me wrong... I'd love to see Pascal GPUs in the 7520... It just looks like it's not happening this time around, and I think you can lay the "blame" for that more on NVIDIA than on Dell.

The upgraded Maxwell Quadros aren't terrible. The M1200 has the same clocks as the M1000M but a 25% increase in shader count. The M2200 has a 33% increase in shader count and an (almost) 20% increase in clock speed compared to the M2000M, for a total potential speed bump of up to 55%.

 

Win 10 worked but I use some software that requires Win 7, so no luck there.
The 7720 does not come with a Win 7 option (so far).