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Graphics Card upgrade for M6800 ?

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by derei, Jun 27, 2017.

  1. N_E_M_E_C

    N_E_M_E_C Notebook Enthusiast

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    guys conclusions? p5000 and m5000m work without problems?
     
  2. supermoth

    supermoth Notebook Consultant

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    Hallo.Did anybody try the P4000m on the M6800?
    What about the P4200?.
    Thanks
     
  3. Aaron44126

    Aaron44126 Notebook Prophet

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    All Pascal cards have shown the same issues described throughout this thread, the most serious being a BSOD if you try to boot it up with Windows.
     
  4. bobmook

    bobmook Notebook Consultant

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    I have never heard of anyone getting, well any results with the P4000, Though I suspect it would work in Linux....someone that knows more than me might know... From what I understand it's a minor miracle (The discovery of an obscure early Vbios) that we have working P5000 cards.

    Zerg and myself have had great results with the P5000, others have had issues. If memory serves Aaron (Gad I'm starting to feel like I know these guys :) ) has had very good results with the M5000m. There are posts by DarkyDark detailing how to get good results with the GTX 980 which may in fact be the best bang for buck. In addition I have a GTX 965 I'm going to sell that I was really happy with until I went down the P5000 rabbit hole and I can still testify to it's excellent performance......... I just don't know what a fair price is for them these days

    You can get, if you shop carefully, a Precision M6800 on ebay for around 300 bucks .....with the HDD, SSD and video card options available I can't help but feel these are the best options available in performance/gaming laptops anywhere ,,,,,I have one with a P5000, 3 256 gb SSDs, a 1 TB Msata SSD and 24 GB ram and I don't think I have more than 1400 dollars in it...........Keeping in mind it's Dell quality.....I just don't think that can be beaten............
     
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  5. Aaron44126

    Aaron44126 Notebook Prophet

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    I can testify that the M5000M works great (in Precision M6700). P5000 is a bit more hit-and-miss. In the M6700 I had periodic BSOD's (similar to what @JEAMN experienced with GeForce 1070 in the M6800). Not sure what the cause was, it could be the BIOS and vBIOS just not getting along well, @JEAMN reported that at least one of his reproducible BSOD's went away when he made some adjustments to tables provided by the BIOS. In the end, I didn't have the patience for it and went back to the M5000M, I don't have time to root around in the BIOS/ACPI tables and figure out what's going on. Anyway, multiple other users have reported no issues with P5000, after flashing the vBIOS, in either M6700 (@RMSMajestic) or M6800 (@DynamiteZerg and @bobmook here).

    To flash my P5000 I purchased a lower-spec M6800 on eBay, without drives or a battery for around $250.
     
  6. N_E_M_E_C

    N_E_M_E_C Notebook Enthusiast

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    I do not understand why it is impossible to reflash on the main machine and you buy new?
     
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  7. darkydark

    darkydark Notebook Evangelist

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    Had my first throttling issue after upgrading to 980M.

    Was playing WoW and CPU started dropping under 800MHz and ofc game was lagging like hell. First thing is to check temperatures and all were under 60, but CPU was still throttling after few restarts every time i fired up wow.

    Started XTU and Thermal Throttling flag was lighting up occasionally but not a single temperature was above 55 at that point. So started WoW again and throttling was instantly back, went to windows and it was gone. Killed WoW, started heaven superposition with prime on 2 cores to be sure I'm beating machine as hard as I can and there was no throttling, temps went to low 80. Good 20-25 more than during WoW, went back to WoW amd boom - throttling.

    Well then I remembered, I'm using an old 230W adapter and maybe it's going out so took out my 240W and plugged it in, fired up WoW and all was well... for around 5-6 minutes and same **** all over again. For some reason I went messing around dock and power connector and both dock and power plug were scorching hot on touch.

    Now why was machine not throttling when under full tilt, but under half the load it would go berzerk?

    Airflow and room temperature.

    Last few days room temperature went from 20-21 to around 24-25 with high humidity, Summer finally cought up with Croatia and when hammering it down, exhaust fans spin over 4k rpm and air exiting back vents is not as hot as when running on half power and fans don't go over 2-2.5k rpm and thus part of the dock would overheat within few minutes.

    It didn't happen before because room temperature was just low enough for colder air not to get hot enough and overheat the damn docking station. Why am sure it was this? When i placed fan blowing over the dock and power connector throttling went away. So I retired my faithful Pro02x and took my backup Pro03x which is narrower and thus half of GPU exhaust is not blowing onto the dock itself.

    Sent from my FIG-LX1 using Tapatalk
     
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  8. beefly

    beefly Newbie

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    Hi there,

    I succeeded P5000 in M6800 EDP virsion by iieeann and DynamiteZerg's method (it's a first time to write here so... i don know how to put in my pic... any way...)

    I apreciate to iieeann and DynamiteZerg, and thank you guys for teaching me that I don know. :)

    I used Linux mint and flashed vbios P5000v3 in my p5000 at there.

    and downed old version's nvidia drive 391.74 with inf modded also i tried to do over third times to download nvidia driver in m6800 because of 'code 43'

    But after that I succeeded to download nvidia driver and tested online game about for an one week. and I stopped auto driver windows update. it was exactly working great.

    and just I wonted to check 3dmark score p5000 in m6800 So, I installed 3dmark and then got a problem BOSD and after rebooting, my nvidia driver is code 43.

    I also tried to install nvidia driver again and again and got a code 43.

    Powered off battery and AC adaper and CMOS battery and preessed power button for a while, and also cleaned windows too.

    Some times I got a correctly nvidia driver working well and after 5min or 3min my driver turned back code 43 :(

    So I'm not sure what problem is and what i missed.

    I need you guys hands and I wanna solve this problem and get out of this code 43.

    thank you
     
  9. bobmook

    bobmook Notebook Consultant

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    This from Aaron's thread concerning the the P5000 .....

    An INF mod is required like with almost any other NVIDIA GPU upgrade. Note that there are different device entries in the INF, one for the "Optimus enabled" configuration and the other for the "Optimus disabled" configuration. The device IDs are the same except for a 0 and 1 swapped out. The meaning of the 0 and 1 was switched with the Maxwell / Precision 7710 generation. I failed to take this into account when installing my M5000M back in 2017 and it resulted in Optimus being non-functional until I figured it out.

    In the end, to get this card working I only had to make one "find-and-replace" change to the nvdmwi.inf file.
    PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1BB6&SUBSYS_07B11028 => PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1BB6&SUBSYS_153F1028


    Download the latest Nvidia P5000 driver from Nvidia.com and set your bios to use Optimus. Perform inf mod as Aaron described and all should be ok for you. The only thing I can think of that might cause issues after that is if you have a P5000 originally from an HP laptop .....
     
  10. BoxCad

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    Hello you All...
    I came to this thread because of the mentions to the Quadro P5000 MXM upgrades that you guys have done to your laptops...
    I'm also trying to get "confirmation" (I know it will be very hard) or any feedback and help to understand if my laptop (workstation) could handle the upgrade from the current M4000M to the P5000.
    My laptop is an MSI-WT72-6QL-400US.
    I understand that this thread is about the Dell M6800, but I was hoping to get some feedback from you guys about this, since some of you already made this upgrade to your machine...
    I already have my BIOS Fully Unlocked, but I still don't have "played" with it...
    I´m wiling to buy the P5000 MXM card, but I would really like to have some feedback to see if there is a good chance that this upgrade can be feasible...
    I know that EUROM already sells some Upgrade Kits for the MSI Gaming Series 73/83VR. for what I search, the "base model" seems to be the same (MS-1782), and there are also some models that have the same chipset CM236.

    Would really appreciate all the comments and help on this, to see how can I move forward on this...
    This is my working laptop and need to get more GPU power, and my Quadro M4000M is not enough anymore...

    Thanks in advance for all the support....
     
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