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E6410 Owner's Thread

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by dezoris, Apr 12, 2010.

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  1. Frapp

    Frapp Notebook Enthusiast

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    Like for the e6510 dell released a patch for the current bios version A01. Just check it out on their homepage.
     
  2. jeremyr4

    jeremyr4 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Unfortunately i haven't used it on my lap yet so I can't say. Sorry about that...

    Jeremy
     
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    jeremyr4 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Looks like Dell just released an Intel Rapid Storage driver update on its website yesterday. Apparently even a TRIM-supported SSD that was sold as part of this system will NOT use TRIM unless the updated drive is installed (according to a Dell Discussion post by a Dell employee). You'll need to download the 9.6...1014 driver to enable TRIM.

    I apologize that I don't have links at the moment (I am on the run) but I will be sure to post links to the driver and Dell Discussion later. The Dell Discussion actually specifies the exact SSD models and revisions that are compatible with TRIM and the new driver. I would HIGHLY recommend taking your SSD drive out to confirm that your drive is compatible. FYI - My Samsung SSD was built on 3/22/10 and is compatible (I would have returned my machine if it wasn't). Also, my E6410 build was on 5/3/10.

    Sorry that I can't post the links right now but I will do so later. I hope this helps everyone who opted for their SSD through Dell.

    Have a good day,
    Jeremy
     
  4. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    I can think of two ways to check:

    (i) Compare the Firmware version with what is listed Samsung SSD - Downloads (VBM18* = no TRIM, VBM19* = TRIM). You can see the firmware version under the drive properties in Device Manager.

    (ii) Run SiSoftware Sandra and look under the physical disk properties in the hardware section.

    John
     
  5. burianmj

    burianmj Newbie

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    Got the replacement keyboard today, and it actually seems to flex a little more than the original did. I tried bending it downward, however that did not seem to help.

    I am wondering if this is something about how my particular machine is constructed, in terms of support underneath the keyboard. When I press a key, I can see all surrounding keys flexing downward and it feels very spongy. Is anyone else having this experience or should I request a replacement or exchange of the machine? In addition to comparing to my old D610 as mentioned previously, I also compared to someone's low-end Inspiron, and the Inspiron keyboard was much more solid. I don't think this should be the case.
     
  6. bradsh

    bradsh Notebook Consultant

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    My replacement keyboard has removed a lot of the flex. Bending the keyboard to be concave downwards really helped remove flex as well. However, there is still some flex no matter what I do. But it is hardly noticeable now.

    I used an IR thermometer to measure the bottom of the laptop, and it is 95 all over at idle with a few hot spots at 109F. I also measured my old Vostro 1400 and it was about 86-93 all over with nowhere over 100F. I will upload the data as a heat map later tonight.

    To get the laptops to "idle lap heat", i set them both to play the same mp3 and sat them on the couch (restricting air flow slightly).

    Oddly, the latitude's bottom temperatures barely changed while running a CPU stress test. It seems dell turns off the fans until stress occurs, resulting in high idle temps.

    Removing the bottom plate makes it obvious where the hotspot on the bottom is coming from; the copper heatpipe has an open vent directly below it, basically allowing heat to transmit directly from the heat pipe to the user.

    I guess 5-12F (3-7C) can make all the difference between mildly uncomfortable and very uncomfortable. By comparison, the T410 is supposedly 87F (30.6C) maximum on the underside at idle.

    I have to say, I am strongly considering returning the Latitude e6410. My Vostro 1400 has much higher build quality (NO KEYBOARD FLEX AT ALL, metal screen lid, quieter and cooler fans, better trackpad). Also, I can use my Vostro my on my lap and tilted up on my stomach indefinitely whereas the Latitude makes me break out sweating.

    The question is: can I stomach a $170 restocking fee for a heat issue? Beyond the heat, I really do like the machine. :(

    But on the other hand, I'm going to spend 50% of the time with it on my lap...
     
  7. jeremyr4

    jeremyr4 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Here are the links I promised:

    Official Dell employee comments and exact model listing to verify compatibility: SSD Trim Support - Desktop General Hardware Forum - Desktop - Dell Community

    Thread that discusses the TRIM issue for Dells: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/disk-drives/f/3534/t/19310219.aspx?PageIndex=1
     
  8. shifuimam

    shifuimam Notebook Enthusiast

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    I don't think it's a construction issue. My keyboard feels very solid. I don't really see any keys surrounding a depressed key moving or flexing at all. The keyboard types more quietly than the one on my old D600, but that's it - it doesn't feel soft or spongy to me at all.
     
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    dgerfan Newbie

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    Noticed that my E6410 powers off for a couple of seconds and powers back on after exiting the BIOS each and every time. Did anyone else have this problem and are there any known fixes?
     
  10. burianmj

    burianmj Newbie

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    I'm glad to hear that yours feels very solid and does not have visible flex. They are sending me a whole new system, so hopefully the keyboard on the new one is solid.
     
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