M6800 Owners' Thread

The closest thing to the IPS would be the touch screen since it uses a glare type screen underneath the touch panel so as to allow better color through. Unfortunately it is only a 72% gamut panel. There might be some new 90% gamut screens coming out that would be better, but nothing will compare to the richness of colors from that 100% gamut 10bit IPS screen.

You will however, gain significant battery life.

I do not have the m6800 non touch, but I have both m6700 with IPS and non-IPS (same screen as m6800) and there is no comparison. The Non-IPS is much flatter. The m6700 IPS is even better than the older M6500 IPS which was so lauded in its day.
LCD's have come a long way, but even the M6500 IPS is far superior to the current screens. But only if that is what you care about.
If you go to a computer store, take a look at some of the "nicest" 17.3" matte computer screens and you will see the kind of screen you will get.

(Personally I would trade my IPS for the touch screen m6800, I don't utilize the color realism and I have been wanting one for some time. I am actually selling mine to fund an m6800)

You are also correct that it is not the same as the WACOM or a Tablet. Both use a digitizer, which allows for Pressure detection. The advantage of the touch screen is that you see what you are working on. But if you are creating images a digitizer is needed.
The last Mobile Precision to use the digitizer touch screen was the M6600 (also IPS but I don't think it was as good)

Will they replace it for new m6800 for free or do you have to pay a %?

 

IPS is great, but I don't think, at least for me, it's worth the battery trade off. Especially since I have a nice IPS screen I can plug in to when I'm at my desk and/or need the color accuracy. I would probably just trade up to the m6800. The GPU will be a good upgrade, especially if you have the firepro, and the processor doesn't hurt anything.

 

How good is the color accuracy using the IPS through the video port?
That is why the battery life is only 5 hours on the M6700 because they have to bypass the HD 4000 graphics since they cannot process a 10bit display.
Do the display adapters also bypass the HD 4000 graphics? This is not the case on most computers; almost always the ports are routed through the Intel graphics.

 

For sure the display port would be able to provide full 10 bit color, assuming the external IPS display you get is 10 bit, which a lot of IPS displays aren't. Really, they don't have to be for 90% of people. Only professionals who need 100% color accuracy for printing photos, having them on webpages, etc really NEED that. Some others may want it, which is their deal and fine as well. However, you can get great IPS displays that are "just" 8 bit, and still give almost dead on color accuracy when calibrated (asus PA248Q and the dell equivalent are some of the best price/performance ones I've been able to find). Any of the video ports can output 8 bit color and look perfectly fine. In fact, on the IPS display, the internal connection is just display-port, and the non IPS display is probably DVI, but I'm not sure.

 

Hi

When you say glare, how much glare are we talking. I know their are some laptop screens where you can see your reflection in them. Is it just a slight glare? If I use the default settings in premiere colour is it only using 72% gamut on the IPS Screen or is it using 100% gamut?

Really you would trade an IPS for a touch screen. May I ask why? What are the perks to using a multi touch screen? What will I be able to do with it. I don't even use windows 8, I still use windows 7 ultimate.

Okay so this screen will work like a wacom tablet with no pressure detection.

They are making an exchange. Replacing my M6700 with the M6800. no cost

Thanks for the reply
Jason

 

It's a glass display. Think macbook pro, Tablet, smartphone, that sort of thing.

If the display was 100% coverage, and I don't know that even the IPS was THAT good, it would use that. If the screen is 72, I believe it will still output 100% of the colors, but you will just see 72% of them, basically. However, in 90% of what you do (everything but photo editing and the like) it will be hard to tell the difference in color accuracy. What you will be more likely to notice is the difference between the TN panel in the 6800 and the IPS in the 6700. That being said, these TN displays are still pretty good, and have decent viewing angles and such.

 

I had the default settings on both m6500 and m6700. Again the richness of the colors is not comparable. All the premiere colour does is calibrate them to look more "realistic".
The screen was 100%, that was its selling point and there is a really good review from Bokeh about it, and it always uses 100% gamut, as this is the range of color representation. IPS panels have better "richness" in the color than TN. Even the 90% gamut TN will not look as rich as the IPS.

As stated the 72% may receive input for 100% but can only display the range of 72%. The biggest difference is the IPS vs TN

Again, the best example would be to take a look at a glare screen with glass. But as you say you would be able to see your reflection, how effective the touch anti glare coating is could help, but in order to be a proper capacitive display, it has to have the glare surface, like your mobile phone.

For me personally I would trade the IPS for the touch. I use a digitizer pad a lot, but don't always require the pressure capability. I do not use the nice color saturation, and if I need it I have other units that have it that I could connect the digitizer to.
The perks are for windows 8 naturally, but also think of using a tablet and how helpful the touch can be sometimes.
For me it is utility of the touch screen that I will use which is more important that color saturation.

That is nice, though, a free upgrade.

 

okay well that's not too bad then. I use my wifes macbook pro and it has a pretty decent screen. Yeah that is where the problem is. I'm a professional 3D visual FX artist. I work in 3D software and Photoshop and AfterEffects all the time. I do a lot of animation and motion graphic work. I noticed on my IPS Screen I could see some lag when playing back animations in AE. Would the TN screen help in this regard?

 

I don't think so. To my knowledge both screens have a 5ms input speed. I think you would really only notice the difference in gaming applications where movement is very fast like FPS games. It sounds more like a video/graphics issue, or perhaps something to do with why your computer was dying.

The screen on the MacBook pro is a very nice TN panel. I would not consider that the standard to compare to the Dell. Also as a 15in screen, they tend to look better than an equivalent 17.3" screen. But if absolute color representation is not necessary for you, then I don't think you would have a problem.

 

Hi Guys

I'm really sorry for all the questions but you both have been such a great help. So from everything I am reading it looks like the way to go is with the Multi Touch Screen. Would the Multi Touch Glossy Screen be closer to the IPS screen than the non touch matte screen?