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M6600 Owners Thread

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by tomcom2k, May 23, 2011.

  1. Scott_RC-TEK

    Scott_RC-TEK Notebook Deity

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    I have not had any issues with the suggested and auto optimization features within the latest Magician 4.1 application. However, with that said, I have a 256GB PM840 Pro as the primary drive and a 256GB PM830 (both retail 2.5" variants) as the secondary drive. They seem to be happy and SNAPPY! :thumbsup:

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  2. RCB

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    I didn't realize Samsung released v4.1 on June 7. Anyway, don't think it will work on my OEM PM830, never has/will acknowledge. But I'm ok with that as I'm getting another 840 Pro and moving the OEM PM830 to the other machine to replace its hard-drive.

    Still stuck about what to do with the pagefile. I could just kill it or set to 1GB and see what happens - which I'll probably want to try regardless of opinions, otherwise I'll wonder endlessly.

    Agreed, the two changes last night made the machine even snappier :thumbsup:
     
  3. tijo

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    Go with a min/max approach. Mine is set to a min of 256 MB and it's been sitting there most of the time. I set the max to 32 GB, that way, if I ever need to hit the page file, I still got some room to spare. If I could, I would just have set a minimum and let it grow as needed. That 32 GB limit saved me on one occasion where I was hitting 20 GB of page file with a simulation.
     
  4. RCB

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    So you're saying take it off System Managed and set manually?
    As it is, System Managed, seems to create a new one - 16GB every time the machine is cold booted according to file data. I don't even know if it persists or is recreated from restart.
    I'm not expecting a performance increase from reducing or killing it, but if it is creating/destroying itself every time that is an excessive amount of writes. Or maybe it just allocates and isn't actually wearing any cells.
     
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    In Windows, system managed makes it double the size of your RAM, the size of your RAM or half the size of your RAM depending on how much you have. The system managed rules aren't as flexible as I'd like, but if you don't need the extra space, there's no reason not to leave it at system managed. The page file shouldn't destroy and recreate itself at every boot. If you set it manually and you go over the limit, your application will crash or return an out of memory error, system managed will increase it automatically and give you a pop up saying it's doing that.

    There are ways to know if you are using the page file at all too so you can use that to know at least if you need particular minimum amount if you want to set it manually. Type perfmon in the start menu search bar and hit enter, get to the graph and add a counter for paging file %usage _Total and you'll see if and how much you're hittign the page file. You may want to increase the amount of time on the monitoring graph too.

    Is there a way for you to see the total writes on your SSD with something like crystal disk info, it works on My Intel and Mushkin SSDs, but not on my Crucial SSDs since they don't report it. You'll know whether the page file really gets written every time.
     
  6. RCB

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    I'm really quite ignorant/deficient about this pagefile. I'll go and set up the performance monitor.
    My bad, yup, pagefile create date was when windows was last installed - you're right it isn't re-created, it only gets modified.

    As it is set now:

    System Managed,
    Total paging file size for all drives:

    Minimum allowed: 16 MB
    Recommended: 24511 MB
    Currently allocated: 16341 MB

    I'll leave it for now and do as you suggested and track its usage. That's a good safe approach.

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    Edit:

    Saw your last edit. I've been intending to install CDI just haven't gotten around to it.

    Thanks for the feedback!
     
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    Why? ACG do not affect functionality. :p
     
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    Had one of our guys with a repeat issue on M6600 and the bios upgrade fixed it.
     
  10. RCB

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    @Tijo:

    Whew, glad you were aware of that. Not good.

    Anyway, Magician just doesn't like that OEM Samsung PM830. I'll have to wait until I have two retail 840 Pro's installed for that. Also, remember the weirdness I would get on the first run with Intel XTU (in your heatsink swap thread), still wonder if this OEM SSD is somehow responsible for that too.

    I'm a little less worried now knowing that the pagefile.sys isn't being re-created all the time.

    BTW, started using this - enlightening: Process Explorer
     
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