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M4800 Owner's Thread

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by changt34x, Oct 29, 2013.

  1. Vaardu

    Vaardu Notebook Evangelist

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    I've played Wolfenstein: The New Order, The Old Blood, DOOM 2016, The Talos Principle and Minecraft on it. I don't think it's the greatest in games, most likely from the drivers, but I found them playable if you adjust settings accordingly to stay above 30 or 60. And when it came to Affinity Photo 1.9.0 and up, the benchmarks seemed lacklustre compared to other people's GPUs, even for an RX 460 desktop even that one fared better than the WX 4150 but that may be my i7 being the bottleneck.

    I use Vega Pro 18 on it, and it's good enough for editing C4K at 10-bit. And I have an eDP display, meaning I can use it without Enduro if I wanted, not sure about LVDS. With LVDS I'd assume you can't use the internal display if you turn off SG.
     
  2. Dylan Priest

    Dylan Priest Notebook Enthusiast

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    What GPU did you have in there before the WX 4150? Is it better than that?
    Why would someone turn off switchable graphics? Wouldn't that kill the battery life
     
  3. Vaardu

    Vaardu Notebook Evangelist

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    Before the WX 4150 was the original M5100, which was slower. It's still an OK graphics card, though.

    The case where you'd turn off SG which I've found online was Hackintoshing the M4800 or if I wanted to use Secure Boot with the internal panel for BIOS setup (which is weird), and since the WX4150 is eDP only it won't display anything on LVDS unless you use the DP or HDMI out, or have SG on indefinitely. And yes it would kill battery life.
     
  4. Dylan Priest

    Dylan Priest Notebook Enthusiast

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    How much slower? M5100 is what I have now; I can find WX 4150 for a decent price, but not sure if it's worth the upgrade.
    So as long as I have switchable graphics on I'll still be able to use the LVDS display?
     
  5. AlexUnder2010

    AlexUnder2010 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'd like to add that M5100 is about 10% faster then K2100M. Here's all collected tested GPUs from M4800 thread. From my side, I owned K2100, M5100, WX4150 and currently laptop equiepped with M2200.
    K1100M (Efficiency ~28%):
    FPS:
    -MAX: 16 Fps
    -AVG: 14 Fps
    Temp: ~51°C
    K2100M (Efficiency ~30%):
    FPS:
    -MAX: 50 Fps
    -AVG: 21 Fps
    Temp: ~69°C
    M1000M (Efficiency ~43%):
    m1000m.png

    FPS:
    -MAX: 33 Fps
    -AVG: 31 Fps
    Temp: ~71°C
    M2000M (Efficiency ~47%):
    m2000m.jpg

    FPS:
    -MAX: 37 Fps
    -AVG: 34 Fps
    Temp: ~71°C
    WX4150 (Stock) (Efficiency ~48%):
    wx4150nooc.png

    FPS:
    -MAX: 40-43 Fps
    -AVG: 38-39 Fps
    Temp: ~67-79°C
    WX4150 (OC) (Efficiency ~58%):
    wx4150.png

    FPS:
    -MAX: 44 Fps
    -AVG: 42 Fps
    Temp: ~72°C
    M2200 (OC) (Efficiency ~78%):
    m2200.png

    FPS:
    -MAX: 68 Fps
    -AVG: 65 Fps
    Temp: ~85°C
     
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  6. Dylan Priest

    Dylan Priest Notebook Enthusiast

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    Considering that the M5100 is supposed to be worse than the M1000M that score definitely seems like a big upgrade, though I wonder why technical.city has its score so much worse
     
  7. johnbb

    johnbb Notebook Consultant

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    Hi mate,
    How do you overclock wx4150?
    I can't change any frequency with radeon pro drivers. Is it with edp screen or LVDS (switchable graphics)?
    Thanks
     
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    Technical city is definitely crap. Go for notebookcheck if you want to see some real benchmarks or actual graphics cards shootout.
     
  9. Vaardu

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    I felt it was almost like half the performance of the WX 4150, and I kept running out of VRAM in Resolve. However I kept it in case the WX 4150 dies.

    And yes, as long you have SG on it'll work fine. :) And the benefit of the WX 4150 is that you don't need an inf mod provided you have flashed the right VBIOS, or a known compatible one. It'll work.
    I haven't seen any benchmarks on notebookcheck for the WX 4150. Welp. https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-Pro-WX-4150-GPU.215312.0.html
     
  10. AlexUnder2010

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    You'll need to dump your vBIOS via GPU-Z or whatever, then modify your vBIOS in Polaris Bios Editor application and flash it via AtiWinFlash 2.77. That's all. Make sure that you have a stock vBIOS dump in case of wrong flashing or whatever.

    I could share my vBIOS if you wish, it is pretty stable and is shown on screenshot (wx4150(OC)). Couple of months ago I've made a changelog... But it is a little bit outdated. On core there is 1152MHz (don't remember). Now vBIOS much more powerful and stable (about 50-51 fps instead of 42)

    - Changed thermal configs for the cooler (most likely useless, since Dell controls the cooler themselves)
    - Overclocked the core to 1145 MHz (an increase in floating point calculations of the order of 10%)
    - Tuned PowerTune for faster temperature drop rate
    - Overclocking memory up to 1750 MHz (increase in performance of memory operations of about 15%)
    - Lowered the memory voltage for the low power mode 300MHz to 900 (mV)
    - Increased memory voltage for 1750Mhz mode to 1.010 (V)
    - Optimized memory timings for Hynix, Samsung and Micron chips
    - Removed thermal limit for PCIe board. Card works on full power (50W) instead of 35W.

    WX4150, K2100M and M2200 are tested with 4940MX CPU, so on the other CPUs those values could be different (bottlenecking, you know). And I've had WX4150 on blue plate - "for HP". Just flashed it with vBOS from Dell and everything worked like a charm - they're similar technically.
     
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