M4700 Owners Thread

You're right! I goofed, the UJ-267 slot loading drive should work, instead of the UJ-265, good catch! Thanks again Aaron!

I was interested in the UJ-267 slot loader because it can write triple and quadruple layer BD's compared o the UJ-262 which can only do dual layer if I'm not mistaken.

 

Well, the results are in and it's good news.
It seems that the throttling only occurs in the benchmark software. In-game it runs at full speed.

 

I have a 3820QM processor, and a K2000M video card. I took the easy route, and installed a mSATA SSD. That did speed things up.

What I need help with, now, is throttling and temperatures. I use Brazil for Rhino for rendering 3D drawings. Brazil uses the CPU cores for rendering, and not the GPU. When rendering rough drawings for proofs, the operation takes a few minutes. Large detailed drawings can take several hours. Eventually my intention is to build a water cooled desktop for rendering, but, for now, it is the M4700.

My concern is the temperatures and CPU throttling. It is not the speed I am concerned about, but potential damage and shortened life of the CPU.

While rendering, the service processor remains close to idle, while the other 7 hit 100%. At that time, the speed cycles from 2.7G to 3.5, and the core temperatures are cycling from 85C to 104. Is this going to cause damage? If it is, is there a way to limit the process to lower the temp?

Thanks. (Using a free download of HWMonitor to check temps)

 

That was poorly written... 7 processing threads at 100%
Four CPU cores cycling from 85C to 104C...

Sorry for the confusion.

 

Hey,
you have no throttling Issue - the 3820qm is ratet at 2,7g and 3,70gh boost with one thread. The CPU uses always the maxium TDP too keep the boost Speed. Thats the reason why Intel Mobile CPUs are alway at their tmax at 105°C. You don´t have to worry about the cpu - mine works fine and i treat it with 100hour render sessions. It s important too keep the GPU cool or AMD CPUs unter 65°C - not Intel CPU with tmax at 105°C

 

Thanks, that is good news. Right now I can't afford for this machine to go down, especially without a useable machine at home. I am trying to hold out and see what comes out in 2014 for desktop CPUs.... Or bite the bullet and fling some serious cash on software that will make use of GPU acceleration.

 

You´ve got maybe one of the fastest Laptop for CPU Rendering. I would not recomend GPU Rendering for now becaus the renderers often cause artifacts and have some problems with textueres. If you need real renderingpower you might need a dual Xenon Workstation or some Xenon Servers as a Renderfarm.

I use my M4700 for After Effecs and Cinema 4D Rendering and it is comparebale to the i7 2700k Desktop and will eat nearly every Imac for Breakfast in terms of rendering power.

 

Nice to hear Cinema 4D runs well on the 4700. I would much rather buy Cinema 4D than another computer. I made the mistake of adding up Cinema 4D Studio, and Realflow... Coughed up a hairball that amazed the cats. Adding in a serious desktop knocks it into the 10K plus league. No way I can float that. For what the software does, though, that is cheap. I am just not proficient, and am on a stiff learning curve.

This "Laptop" is fast. Really fast. It smokes the massive Asus ROG I was issued at work. I adjusted some settings, and was putting Neon to task while doing some drawings in Rhino. I didn't know this machine could render that quick. It kept my office a little warmer, too. Frustrating, though, that I need to use my own machine to speed things up. I just get leary of running it at 100% on all the cores overnight when rendering with Brazil.

 

I saw a few links you need to see, products about the 1TB limit in the right form factor; 9.5mm 2.5" drives that are OVER 1TB in size (1.5TB and 2TB)

I have no idea what the BIOS in the machine can handle (however it really OUGHT to be fine, I mean *REALLY* that would be a strange limit).

I also expect that these will $cost$ you. Anything newer, and realize that some of these are 2013 releases (one of which doesn't even have a retail list price yet announced <a scary thought> .

Anything new and very desirable tends to hit the $cash$ hard (even it if does not cost a lot to make it as the cost will stay up until there is large scale production, lots of competition, and a newer better model).

ANYWAY...here they are

SEAGATE/SAMSUNG 2TB
Seagate's Samsung HDD Division Ships World's Thinnest 2TB Storage Solution | Seagate

HGST Travelstar™ 5K1500
A 1.5TB, 5400 RPM, 2.5" battery-efficient hard drive equipped with a 3Gb/s SATA interface in a compact 9.5mm package.

and of course for serious speed (and a much higher mysterious price) you can get a 9.5mm 2.5" SSD drive

FORMAY 2.5inch 9.5mm 2TB SSD

Foremay claims to have the first 2TB, 2.5-inch SSDs

*** The FORMAY drive has no announced retail list price yet ***
just an announcement that they have made one (I can't even find a model number for it yet)

- but then - if you just MUST have one the first moment they are released to the public, then you can always get another mortgage on your house (?priorities anyone?)

 

Glad to see this. Drives have been stuck at 1 TB for nearly two years? My data drive is running full. Anyway, even if the price starts out rather expensive, it should drop off quickly over the first few months.