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Kaby Lake Precision pre-release discussion (5520 / 7520 / 7720)

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by Aaron44126, Jan 6, 2017.

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  1. ygohome

    ygohome Notebook Deity

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    AMD specs say the WX 7100 is "GCN 4th Generation", is that polaris 10 or 11?

    edit: I believe it is polaris 10 as specs show WX7100 is 256bit and 5.7 TFLOPS while polaris 11 would only be 128bit and 2 TFLOPS
     
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  2. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    That's odd, but if you say so. Good thing that you're still rocking MXM GPUs.

    Wholeheartedly agree with you. Well, I wouldn't mind if they run slim 17" (obviously there are people who would enjoy it) along with the beast, like they do with the 15", just don't phase-out the beast, that would be a real shame. And I couldn't agree more about WUXGA.

    The desktop equivalent has the same model name (unlike before), so it is, the only difference is that this should be ~95W for the entire board (better binned chips).
     
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    ygohome Notebook Deity

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    I like this. But I think this should be a new/separate model as opposed to making the dGPU optional. I think such a"delete dGPU" option requires too many compromises in design and layout. @Dell-Mano_G, you know this but not all RAM and CPU hungry buyers are content creators or photo/video professionals. I would love to see a 17" Dell with all the trimmings of a precision but without a dGPU. Instead of the dGPU put in more M.2 PCIe and mPCIe ports. Don't even make the dGPU optional in such a machine as that would be the precision lineup.

    VM farm in a laptop for devs, with ton of RAM and CPU power with 17" and with extra M.2 and mPCIe ports for expansion --- in a lighter form factor (plus imagine after semiconductor industry releases 6+ core mobile CPUs in future). I'm salivating from my VMs. This sounds like a win.
     
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    Imagine Dell considering this. What a discussion: techies say "Makes sense, we can do this" or "introduce an easy plug&play system to make it slim and strong with either storage or dGPU (or another battery?)" and the controllers say "Too complicated, too many models, will never pay off" and the marketing "USP USP!". :)

    @Dell-Mano_G as we are on the wish list thing, sorry for a bit OT with config variations: I miss my old 16:10 display ratio. Most control elements need horizontal orientation, so they block full vertical rectangles: menu, ribbon, taskbar, vm+rdp+browser window chrome, tabbed windows... Vertical oriented UI options/variations (e.g. taskbar) have issues. Text content (we all have reading/writing needs I guess) has vertical orientation and does not scale well horizontally for the human text processing. So content and control elements are fighting for vertical space. Please reconsider an option to go from 16:9 to 16:10. Hires in 16:9 is not the answer as we do not gain vertical space but drain the batteries even faster... USP, you know ;)
     
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    Please, I would like to know when there will be support DP1.4 in 7520 with the graphics of NVIDIA? It is very important for me. Thank you.
     
  6. ygohome

    ygohome Notebook Deity

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    This should have been addressed in 2015 after responses from the insane initial feedback way back then. I remember your comments back then to the angry mobs and I appreciated you saying "I'll address this to the team...". I appreciated so much we bought two for our small mompop business.

    But this shouldn't even be on the plate now as a discussion. Should have already been done.

    No disrespect, but this was a major issue then and more so now as Dell certainly already knows about the purchasers distaste for the keyboard layout . The keyboard typing itself is awesome, but the layout lacks quite a bit from a "professional" (monetary) user point of view. We aren't really teen or twenty somthings browsing youtube with occasional special keyboard requirements.
     
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    Looking at screenshots in the first pictures of this topic I can clearly see small cursor keys on 7720 and no PageUp/Down on number So I don't think this was addressed, unfortunately :(

    And as for 16:10 - I would pay a good premium to get WUXGA!
     
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  8. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    YESSS!!!
     
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    This defeats the whole purpose of the machine though. It is meant to be a professional level desktop replacement, not just a higher end machine.
    I believe what you are talking about would be an XPS 17 - I am surprised they don't make one.
     
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    @Dell-Mano_G : Is the battery incompatibility between the Precision 5510 / 5520 (and XPS15 9550 /9560) as discussed here (IIRC new battery works in previous generation but previous battery doesn't work in new generation) intentional or something unintentional to be fixed in a BIOS update. Dell has a good track record of enabling interchangeability of batteries which are physically compatible.

    John
     
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