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E6410 Owner's Thread

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by dezoris, Apr 12, 2010.

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  1. gauden44

    gauden44 Notebook Consultant

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    Just got my E6410 from the outlet. Very quick shipping, that's for sure. However, it's going right back to Dell lol. It had a whine that was extremely loud and irritating. My E6500 has it at times too, but I really have to listen for it. This E6410 though... it was like someone put one of those prank devices inside of it haha. It's gone at the moment, but if it ever returns...

    In addition to that, the screen is rather disappointing. I have the 1280x800 screen on the E6410--perhaps the WXGA+ is better. I'm comparing it to an E6500 with the WXGA+ screen, which supposedly is the same one used on the pre-unibody Macbook Pro's. Some angle-test shots and a video are below. Most people probably don't care about the screen, but I wanted it to be known so that people like myself can know what they're getting ahead of time :).

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    And finally the YouTube link:
    YouTube - Dell E6410 vs E6500 Screens

    I really wish the screen was better. I got an awesome deal for $510+tax for the base i5, 4gb ram, integrated graphics, base 160gb 5400rpm, and Intel 6200. I guess I'll have to keep my behemoth E6500 for a while longer :(.
     
  2. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    Wow the screen is total vomit. My E6400 screen is like the one of your E6500 which is WXGA+ like yours.

    I would wait for the E6420 if I was you. The life span of a laptop is 3-4 years if you customized it properly to fit your need + a bit more for cushion. So, I don't think there is any hurry, especially that you have 4GB of RAM, Nvidia GPU which can be overclocked like no tomorrow on demand while the system is running, and more powerful CPU than what I have. Oh an not to mention a damn fast 5400 RPM HDD like I have.

    I am not impressed with the Core i series mobile.. they consume too much power, too much heat.. like the early Core 2 Duo's... I would wait for at least minimum, second generation. Don't expect the whine problem to be solved. Intel's employees all lost their hearing. And a requirement to be work over there is to be deaf.

    If you want increase performance, have a look into Windows 7 64-bit, or at least get Vista 64-bit.
    If your Aero experience is choppy I have the fix.
     
  3. Paul P

    Paul P Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah, the vertical viewing angle is negative. If you set it just right so the center
    looks good the top and bottom are out of range. Sigh...
     
  4. glentium

    glentium Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi gauden44!

    Seems like your E6410 is not backlit? If so, how do you find the keyboard compared to your E6500?

    Thanks!
     
  5. scootskd

    scootskd Notebook Enthusiast

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    Quick question: just received my E6410. I configured it with the 320GB HDD option. When I check the capacity it indicates it is only 283GB. Is that normal? The other 40GB (roughly) seems to be allocated to something called the "OEM Partition". What in the world does Dell do with that? Can I just blow that away and reinstall my OS without that in place?
     
  6. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    You have different things that comes into play:
    - To have a nice number like 320 and not like (just a random example) 271.523 GB. Storage manufacture opted to round up numbers.
    Instead of 1024KB making 1MB like it should be, and go on from there:

    • 1024MB = 1GB
      1024GB = 1TB
      and so on (power of 2)
    They decided to go with 1000KB = 1MB
    So we have:

    • 1000 KB = 1MB
      1000 MB = 1GB
      1000 GB = 1TB
      and so on... (power of 10 - like the metric system).

    As computer works in power of 2 due to their nature of using binary system, the computer shows the truth of things.

    Moreover, you need to allocate size for the HDD index table where each entry is of an address of 32-bit long (for 32-bit OS - Max size 2TB HDD can be used), or of 64-bit long when you use a 64-bit OS (Max size of... well see it as today as infinite.. it's above the ExaByte (EX) unit)
    But that doesn't consume a lot.. only a few MB at best on a really large HDD... but it might explain why you have 3 at the end of the total space.

    Plus you have the recovery partition of a certain size. On my E6400 laptop it's of 2GB, but maybe Dell has changed.
    If you have Windows 7, you should also have another partition which is reserved for allowing you to repair Windows 7 startup, and allow you to restore you whole system to a previous point in time (and a bit more, like memory diagnostic, and command line prompt) without the need of Windows 7 disk.
     
  7. gauden44

    gauden44 Notebook Consultant

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    I haven't used the E6410 too much, but my first impression is that the keys aren't as smooth as my backlit E6500. In addition, it seems as though the E6410 keys have more of a "crater" while my E6500 keys are either flat or have a little bit of a "hump." When I push on the H key of my E6410, it does not flex as much as my E6500. All of these impressions might just be because the keyboard is new.

    But still... I might have to find myself a non-backlit keyboard on eBay haha. I've never used the lights on my keys since I've received the laptop last September.
     
  8. Jakeworld

    Jakeworld Notebook Consultant

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    Personally, I find this argument to be fallacious. While the Core i series mobile processors certainly have not reached their prime at this point, you overlook the achievements introduced with this line of CPUs. Benchmarks for various computers models, refreshed with the Arrandale lineup, have shown that Core i processors offer a respectable increase in performance with little impact on the thermal envelope. You seem to imply that Intel largely failed with this release; I am inclined to believe many would disagree with this opinion.

    Reading through many of your posts, they seem to evoke a preemptive defense against buyer's remorse. The E6400 is certainly a capable computer, and from what can be gathered from this thread, so is its successor. I certainly understand the relevance for comparison to the previous model, but you seem to overemphasize rather insignificant details. As an example, this includes continuous references to a perceived decrease in aesthetic appeal with the E6410, such as with the ESATA/USB combo port, the SD card port, and the exterior color scheme. My point is not to call you out, but rather suggest that your posts are distinctly colored towards the product you own, and not the product in which this thread is based.

    In returning to the topic, I found the WXGA display to be acceptable, though I personally prefer the higher resolution of the WXGA+. The E6410 remains one of few performance computers that still offer 16:10 resolution, and I hope for at least this model in the Latitude series, continues to remain as such.
     
  9. xxxquandomxxx

    xxxquandomxxx Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just received the E6410 I got for my sister.

    First of all, I assumed that the E6410's display was going to be as decent as the E6400's, but boy was I wrong. The viewing angle is so hideous that I am going to literally barf. My friend has the E6400 and that panel is completely different to this one. Our panel seems to be the "LGD0257" WXGA+.

    Second, which is not that much of a problem, the notebook seems to be a bit hot when compared to my Lenovo T500. With the Nvidia dedicated graphics and CPU on idle, the CPU rises to around 60C and the fan kicks in, cooling it down to around 47C. Then the fan stops and the temperature rises to 60C again, going into a cycle. Is there a way to turn the fan on indefinitely?

    Also, I don't hear the whine people are talking about. Maybe I don't have great ears.

    Other than the display, this is a great notebook. I don't know what to do; I might have to eat that 15 percent restocking fee because I think the display is very important.
     
  10. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    About everyone here complains about having a warm laptop, fan spinning all or most of time and big throttling problem affecting this time, both Nvidia and Intel users. The laptop has a bigger heatsink, and more air circulation holes. Who is that heating less or the same as the Core 2 Duo?!

    Heumm no.. it's because you don't know me. I tend to be perfectionist, I consider every detail when I purchase something, INCLUDING how it's been design.
    My comments on the ports, where showing where Dell performs some cuts, and yes I do find it ugly. But, it's not any show stopper, of course.

    Of course it is! Did I ever say the contrary?! NO!
    I just think it's not worth spending another 2k for a system where the performance increase is not justified for someone who pass from the E6400 to the E6410. If I was about to buy a new laptop (assuming I don't have the E6400) I would definitely get the E6410. But passing from the E6400, not so much.

    I already mentioned the flaws of the E6400 several times, on the appropriate forum topic, if you are considering that I am concluding that the E6400 is a perfect machine.

    Every aspect is being considered. Including but not the least, fan noise, HDD operation noise, CPU power management output noise, color, paint thickness, plastic texture and more...

    I am sure anyone would enjoy a system with 18hours of battery with only a 6 cell, fan-less design, all by providing a cool system with a high-end gaming desktop performance, also where everything details are paid careful attention too, light, small, and of course nice looking, amazing display and so on..
    Obviously, this is something not possible.
    But it doesn't prevent me to complain, and have companies push to try and achieve this. Or at least keep paying attention to details.


    Maybe your having buyers remorse, where you can't stand the truth of things.
     
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