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Dell Precision M6700 Owners Thread

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by Bokeh, Aug 9, 2012.

  1. grumpy42

    grumpy42 Notebook Guru

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    I am not sure what you mean by "the Dell thing". If you are referring to the "Multi Display Power Saver", and your videos are stuttering, you may have to adjust the GPU/VPU usage thresholds (mine are set to 70%). Although, I have no problem playing 1080p youtube videos with the p-state remaining at P8.
     
  2. RCB

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    If during Windows7 install "TRIM" is enabled because an SSD is detected as the system drive, is it then also functioning for all internal SSD's?
    Also, is over-provisioning the non-system SSD drives just as important as the system drive?
     
  3. Krane

    Krane Notebook Prophet

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    Actually, I was referring to the Precision Performance Optimizer. If anything, my system is more sluggish. But it most certainly is not more snapper. I must not be doing something right?

    With all my editing programs I filled up my 260 system drive almost immediately (and the eSATA isn't far behind) which I anticipated, but not nearly this soon.

    I definitely need the newer larger SSD system drives to provide the free space, but must re-budget from the heavy hit of the softwares before I can get them. Although they still haven't been released yet.
     
  4. darkydark

    darkydark Notebook Evangelist

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    Trim should work on all ssd drives in your system regardless of where and how you instaled it.

    Overprovisioning should be used if ur writting alot on any drive. Afaik drive uses op space when trim and garbage cleaning functions activate.
     
  5. Aaron44126

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    What's "The Dell thing?"

    Anyway, echoing grumpy42, I have no trouble with 1080p videos (YouTube or otherwise) with the graphics card set to P8 and minimum clocks.
     
  6. RCB

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    I had a sense this would be normal behavior.

    Also have the same sense about this.

    ... Thanks for the feedback. I got a little lost after foregoing an mSata and instead getting a standard SSD. First time here having two SSD's and considering a third, the (mSata). Essentially Drive 0 and 1 (6Gb/s) are the working drives, so OP is needed for lots of heavy writes and deletions. They will never be completely filled - so that there's always lots of free clean adjacent blocks.
    I'll have to archive lots of rarely used files to an external drive until I can find a suitable mSata drive. My head screwed back on straight, the coming mSata will be mostly read, not written to, so I'll not need to OP except for maybe 10%; I'll want this one to be as large as possible.

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    Krane,

    Can't you archive some files to an external HDD?
    I received a WD 2TB USB 3 (129.00?) as a Christmas gift. What a LifeSaver. And pretty quick too. Before, I stored everything on CD's and USB sticks - like probably many others.
    It does take some planning to figure out the ideal configuration especially being somewhat new to the recent stuff. Yeah I read as much as I could before hand - didn't hurt, but still overwhelming at times and costly.

    If not for having probably the noisiest WD Black HDD ever built I would've put the SSD to the back of the priority list.

    RCB
     
  7. darkydark

    darkydark Notebook Evangelist

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    By default op is either 0, 7 or 28%(in extremly rare cases). Leave it at 7 since my understanding is that you would use that drive as system drive. Some controlers still do not use free space for ther garbage cleaning operations. Afaik samsung and indilix controlers do not need op space for gc to work properly. I believe that i have read somewhere that as long as trim is active and you have any free space op is not needed but i wouldnt use any drive for profesional use without op since it reduces write amplification by quite alot. And tje end result is ssd longevity altho nand came a long way since ssd drives were introduced.
     
  8. RCB

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    Presumably Samsung's SSDs' can use the OP since the drives ship with Magician Software 4.0 (supposedly improved over 3.2) that has OP as one of the optimizers and they recommend OPing on the website. To start I'll set the two standard drives at 30% unallocated (I prefer to do this when clean installing W7).
    Last time I set the SSD boot drive to ~3.5% (~8 GB) unallocated - I can feel an improvement, probably due to reduced write amplification; even though it should have been larger (~71 GB unallocated).
    I'm not worried about giving up the space, if I were I'd have bought larger drives and kept the unallocated space roughly the same GB's but lower percentages.

    Initially I was confused about the mSata, namely for thinking it had to be used as a boot drive. It doesn't and will be an ideal mass storage area (after all it is slower). I think that, as you said, 7% OP would be appropriate for this. Just wish Mfgs. would hurry up and increase the sizes and availability.

    Probably my biggest concerns when switching into all SSDs' was cost and longevity. After a discussion with tijo about this a while back and some further research I'm convinced both can be controlled and satisfactory. I'll see - as my spinners are now relegated to external backup position.
     
  9. tijo

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    You will enjoy the silence of SSDs, well except when you're doing intensive work that is.
     
  10. darkydark

    darkydark Notebook Evangelist

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    For some reason xtreme systems forum is down atm and i can not access it. Just google "ssd endurance extreme system" after page 200 there is post where he killed sammy 830 after few PB (6ish i think) of host writes Those numbers were not achievable on normal mechanical drives as they were to slow and rotors would fail long before that amount of data was written.

    Pretty much any "upper class" ssd should outlive mechanical drives or at least live as long as they do.

    edit: rcb.to.ca could you look at this post and do some measurements for me :)
     
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