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    Apple iPhone X

    Discussion in 'Smartphones and Tablets' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. judgerlight

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    Nah samsung is fine no problems on my end
     
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    USD 1000 phones are going to be the norm, unless you can get Samsung and Apple to agree to cap their premiere phones.
     
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    I have never owned a Samsung phone that worked correctly. They are always slow and laggy. Even my lowly ole 6s beats the S8 in speed and smoothness. The essential, pixel, v30/g6 and most any other good quality flagship android phone beats the samesong in speed and smoothness.
     
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    Really? I think you and I live in a different timeline, maybe?
    S8 really is snappy and fast enough to beat iPhone 6s. I gave it a try and really liked it.
    S8 doesn't feel slow at all. Maybe you are looking at different perspective.
     
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    A friend of mine has S8 and it lags... I mean, applications work fine, but the interface... Sammy really has to do something about their GUI...
     
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    Maybe its because of Bixby. Cause I didn't hear any complaints from mr Phoenix.
     
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    It's Faster!

     
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    Applications menu lagged because of Bixby?
     
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    Yeah more bloated Touchwiz and other bloatwares on S8.
     
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    Do you really have so much apps on your iphones and droids?
    I install atmost 10-15 apps.
    The channel didn't specify Test methodology & specs. I am guessing S8 has Snapdragon?
     
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    It does not matter the amount of apps loaded on a phone....the point is, the iphone 6s opens the same things, and runs them FASTER than the S8. Regardless of how many apps there are, Regardless of test methodology or Specs. The phones are lined up, opening the SAME apps, in the SAME order and the iphone 6s is faster than the S8. How many apps is a moot point. Actually it shows how efficient apple is at managing memory compared to Samsung.
     
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    I have 52 apps on my 6s. FYI. and I use all quite frequently!
     
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    52? Does your iphone 6s come with 128GB SSD NVMe?
     
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    Hey, now that's silly, faster phone app?, faster ecommerce shopping apps?, faster GPS?, faster Note app, faster what??

    I've done side by side with iOS and Android a number of times, contemorary new release for both, and there is no functional reason to pick the "faster" benchmarking one over the other.

    I can't control many aspects I need to through iOS, but I can under Android.

    I have a large Apple catalog, which I stopped adding to years ago when I found Apple had forgone true performance in laptops and desktops for poserware.

    Where I really needed constantly improving performance, staying with the cutting edge of Intel / AMD CPU / GPU hardware in desktops and laptops, Apple dropped the ball. And, of course in the datacenter, Apple was basically a noshow after an initial attempt.

    I couldn't do my work with them any longer, and so I didn't need or couldn't stay within the ecosystem when I used Windows Phone, Android Phone, and I the same goes for BlackBerry even though that didn't fulfill my needs.

    For Apple to then try to turn this around by saying their phone hardware is faster just makes me laugh. :)
     
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    IDK what malware got loaded on his S8, but my Samsung phones up through my current S7 Edge doesn't "lag", it's very responsive. I even can set it to power saving and I don't see much of a detriment - I readjust the brightness and sound up a tad, but the apps, network, and interaction is fast.

    Get his Android Samsung phone to a person that is familiar with setting them up, and let them run through the options, there is likely some thing mis-configured, or as I said malware got loaded.
     
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    Do you have Qualcomm CPU or Samsung's Exynos? Exynos had those random glitches. My dad's S7 doesn't lag at all eventhough its not a clean install Nougat. Rooting it will indeed make it faster.
    Getting rid off Apple's faster animation giving users a super excited feeling of faster performance than Droid. I turned it off and iphone 7 and S7 felt more or less similar in day to day usage while I still use WM10.
     
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    Oh, I don't doubt guy's credentials, he is no lamer. He knows how to use the phone.
    Although I should mention calling them "lags" is a little bit harsh, I think "micro stutters" describes the situation better.
    I mean, you use the phone, scroll home screens, menus, etc., everything works pretty snappy. But here or there you see a micro stutter.
    On the other hand we are talking about top of the line Android hardware (at the time), not some low end Qualcomm chip (though his S8 uses Exynos, since EU market gets only that) and I think it unacceptable to talk about micro stutters on such hardware. Samsung should really cut on the bloat.
    And I'm doubt he's the only one who has it. I'm pretty sure it's a common complain with Samsung phones.
     
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    IDK, I heard the Exynos had higher performance than the Snapdragon 820, perhaps it's a tuning issue as I suggested?

    By now that Exynos CPU should be patched and performing fine.

    It looks like performance settings and other settings weren't optimal, this thread ends with a good summary:

    https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/fix-gaming-lag-100-improved-game-t3433260/page3

    I don't root my carry phone, it needs to be secure, but even so the options available for tuning with apps extensions given permission to change system settings and control applications gives Greenify - and Samsung native performance tuning (High Performance vs Power Saving Modes) plus other minimal tuning through the Developer settings, and I've got a phone that runs for days and performance without lag or glitches.

    I do understand how to root and build my own OS from scratch, or use ROM managers and pre-built tuned OS's, and have done so over the years many times, but for day to day use I need something reliable and secure, so I don't mess with Samsung's stock OS. :)
     
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    Uninstalling, and disabling everything I don't need is just part of what I do to set up my phone, and even with Samsung's S7 Edge default OS load I can disable 90% of the bloat, and cause the rest of it to constantly loose it's place, so that does help.

    If I were getting poor performance, bad battery life, etc, I wouldn't be happy with it and would have dropped it quickly.

    But I am getting several days of power with plenty of performance to do everything even at the first level of power saving, which I can be found running far more often than High Performance mode.

    There are always "improvements" with rooted options, but that takes a lot time, and I've run through it enough times to know the limits and why I did it, and now I don't *need* to, so I spend my time doing other things.

    Plus I have old Android top of the line phones to hack as the desire intrudes, so I don't need to do it to my primary carry phone.
     
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    I seem to run into issues when I have installed Listen Gesture App on iphone, everytime I use BT audio streamed to the car always Apple music takes over and Listen app stops responding.
     
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    @Papusan

    I just bought a 256GB Space Gray iPhone X

    as you know I like Android more but to me the camera is very important and the Galaxy S9+ Won't fit in my car's arm rest which acts as a wireless charger so it was either the Galaxy S9 or the iPhone X.

    The thing is, i love the Bokeh Effect (Which blurs the background) and you need a dual camera to do that. The Galaxy S9 can do that in software after the shot was taken but it is not as good as the actual Bokeh Effect AKA Portrait Mode for the iPhone X

    While I was at the store, I took some pics with the iPhone X in portrait mode and man, they look very professional and nothing short of stunning!!
     
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    Phoenix, actually you DON'T need a dual camera lens to do that...you need the 1020. Still the camera to beat for pure imaging.
     
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    I need the 1020? What's that?
     
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    Galaxy S9 Plus scores higher than Google Pixel 2 and Apple iPhone X in camera test. Here's how
    Another day, another flagship phone beating feature from the Galaxy S9 Plus
    BY LUKE EDWARDS, March 6, 2018
    https://www.t3.com/news/galaxy-s9-p...pixel-2-and-iphone-x-in-camera-test-heres-how

    Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus review: Premium specs, top-end performance
    Posted on March 1, 2018 by Lars Rehm
    https://www.dxomark.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-review-premium-specs-top-end-performance/

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    Conclusion: Samsung sets the pace

    The Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus is a smartphone without any real weaknesses in the camera department. In both still and video modes, it performs well across the board, delivering consistently good photo and video image quality in all light and shooting situations, thus earning itself our highest DxOMark Mobile score to date.

    Add one of the best smartphone zooms and a capable bokeh simulation mode to the mix, and the Galaxy S9 Plus is difficult to ignore for any photo-minded smartphone user.

    With the Galaxy S9 Plus, Samsung is setting the pace for 2018. We’ll see if the competition can follow suit."
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    Yes I know, the S8+ is the king of cameras ans has better audio recording. See:



    BUT, you have to understand my situation. It won't fit in my car and I don't want the S9 only without the dual camera, hence, my only choice was the iPhone X as that gives me dual cameras, wireless charging so it could charge in my car wirelessly under the armrest AND have my dual cameras.

    You are talking with a die hard Android guy here but I have to eat the iToy bubble :rolleyes: :eek:
     
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    New car? Or, maybe a new phone cradle adapter?
     
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    What do you mean new car? I've had my BMW M4 for about 9 months and you can't change the phone cradle,

    Only phones up to 5.8 inches will fit

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]


    PS: I said I bought the phone already not asking which phone to buy
     
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    Bluetooth & Snap-In Adapters
    https://www.shopbmwusa.com/BLUETOOTH-SNAPIN-ADAPTERS-CONTROL
    BMW phone adapters.JPG
    Click on the 2nd image on top left, and it will ask for your model info to provide options available. You may need to call your dealer for local options. The S9+ is pretty new, so there might be a delay before an adapter is available for purchase.

    Or 3rd party:

    Strike Alpha Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus Car Cradle
    http://www.strike.com.au/products/strike-alpha-samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-car-mount

    5 Best Car Mounts For Galaxy S9 / S9 Plus
    Posted By : eddie paoletti February 24, 2018
    https://fliptroniks.com/5-best-car-mounts-for-galaxy-s9-s9-plus/
     
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    yeah you see, those aren't available for the new cars like the M3/M4 since their arm rest phone cradle thing is built in and supports wireless charging. If you were able to change the cradle, then I would've known as many people are pissed off ta the Bimmerport forums (BMW Forums) that they are either faced to go with a small phone OR forget the wireless charging and nice storage place for their phablet.

    So, I repeat yet again, the iPhone X was my only choice since it sports the dual cameras which usually only big phones have and it is small to fit.

    I hate it like Samsung and even Apple usually puts the regular camera on the small phones and the super duper dual camera on the bigger phones forcing people to go with the bigger phones if they want all the fearures despite them actually liking smaller phones like me.
     
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    Seems like an odd way to select a phone, based on a car cradle size, but I'm glad you are happy with it. :)
     
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    Thanks bro

    [​IMG]
     
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    The size of IPhone X is about max what I prefer. The trend is even bigger phones. It’s fast enough, camera good enough and scren size is good. I can’t see what’s very wrong with CrApple X although I don’t use Apple in other form shape or use.

    And I won’t touch Samsung. What other choices have you? For me... Nothing!! And my 4 inches is already dying. And my eyes won’t be any better.
     
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    I recommend j00 the iPhone X man.

    Even though I didn't use iOS in 2 years, just spending an hour with the phone and I'm a pro at navigating, swiping up to go to the home screen and switching apps, etc. It becomes second nature. Have you the need for gestures? :eek:

    Now, moving on to the camera, I will shock you guys soon with the photos this thing takes. It is like they were taken in a professional studio. So crisp with natural colors that are not over saturated like Samsung's and the portrait mode is simply amazing! When you blur the background and keep the focus on j00 or the object, it creates a very professional looking photo.

    Since j00 are an iOS guy, and the iPhone 8 lacks the awesome camera and the 8 Plus is humongous (feels like I am holding a walkie talkie not a phone :rolleyes:) then the iPhone X is your best choice even though it's expensive. j00 have to bite the bullet.

    Oh and I forgot, my BMW has Apple Car Play so that will be awesome to try out as well :eek:
     
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    I was disappointed when Iphone came with 4.7" and 5.5". The small 4.7 "scren was too small (should been +5" instead) and the + chassis was too big. Therefore, I've kept my old while it has been almost dead for a long while. There have been nothing to go for. And it seems it will be worse. I don't need or want a huge +6.5/7.0" smartphone tablet.
     
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    Well, I must say that's a serious design flaw on BMW's part that they didn't predict people would be using one of the most popular phones out there in their car.
    Anyway, inb4 Phoenix sells iPhone X and buys a Gnusmas in a couple of months :D
     
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    Isn't BMW the company whose infotainment includes Apple CarPlay but not Android Auto? Only company I know that plays favorites in 2018 instead of supporting both, or neither.
     
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    Phoenix just embraced the dark side :biglaugh:
    Do turn ON assistive tech that gives you onscreen home button and multi-task features. Also, keep a copy of Wondershare safe eraser to delete most telemetry and other privacy malwares from sending your personalized data to Apple servers.
    I just love 3D touch.
    And you can tweak for max privacy and max performance like you always do.
    Even I am looking for replacement phone for my Lumia. Maybe I will buy couple of Android One phones and iPhones. Too much confusion which to choose.
     
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    There's nothing like the reliable Classic... :)
    41oPdE4PUQL.jpg
    https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-RAZR2-V9x-Quad-Band-Player-International/dp/B002UHKN9E
     
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    Still use my Nokia Asha phone, only thing that lacks is Battery stamina from 1000mAh battery after 5-6 years. Without SIM card, I just use it as a backup phone with all contacts and txt msgs and alarm. It just lasts for 3 months before the need to recharge and it charges from 25-100% in half an hour. I even like the new Banana phone from HMD.
    I'm a Nokia fanboy in some way or the other.
     
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    Here you go, the Nokia 3310 3G Cell Phone, with 1200mAh and 22 hours of talk time!
    6092430_sd.jpg
    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nokia-3310-3g-cell-phone-unlocked-azure/6092430.p?skuId=6092430

    Snake: play the classic Nokia 3310 time-waster here
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/02/24/snake-play-classic-nokia-3310-time-waster/
     
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    Not everyone likes the thin is in style of todays crap....I would have loved to keep my 1020 if MS had an OS worth using.

    But check this video out.



    Shows Nokia giving The new Huawei a good run for it's money...and its much better than the multi lens system for bokeh.
     
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    Apple iPhone X: 3 months later (Apple Byte)


    Ooops, Apple's gonna make a "too big for the M4 phone cradle" iphone X Plus...

    Apple plans to release a giant iPhone X Plus this year (Apple Byte)

     
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    iPhone X plus will bring Apple in-line with most android phones and compete with them head to head with screen size and not pricing.
    Anyway, I'm waiting for Phoenix's Geekbench 4 scores on bone stock phone versus his super tweaked iph X 256GB.
     
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    what do people think of a 6.5" IPhone? I find it interesting enough to contemplate upgrading to it.
     
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    Next years Iphone X Plus. Just rename iPad mini :D
    [​IMG]
     
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    Phablets were an outcast when 4s came out, now phablets is bare minimum spec these days! Kids carry bricks and I am always afraid they'd hit me. Gladly, I have my alienware and will gladly give them the lappie and they'd fall down with face flat on the ground because they are thin and becoming BGA. Haahaaaa. @Papusan Will we see BGA kids?
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    BGA laptops being thinner and more flimsy. Phones bigger. I wonder when they will meet o_O As you know... You can already speak with your notebook :D
     
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    kojack Notebook Prophet

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    I went to the local telus store this morning...Iphone x sucks!
     
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    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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