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    Apple iPhone X

    Discussion in 'Smartphones and Tablets' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. Mitlov

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    Yes, PIN is still an option. The only option that was removed on the iPhone X is TouchID. It's arguably the best unlocking method taken away, but that's not that all options besides Face ID have been taken away.
     
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    still can use a PIN.
     
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    This mean your Apple phone can be safe without using the FaceID. Amazing :D
     
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    Today is the day for long lines at the Apple stores.
     
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    Unless it's like this again:

    Almost no one lined up for the new iPhone in London — but that could be good news for Apple
    http://www.businessinsider.com/no-o...ut-it-could-be-good-for-apple-iphone-x-2017-9

    "The endless queues to buy the new iPhone are over. Maybe.

    Business Insider went to Apple's flagship London store on Regent Street this morning to see how much buzz the new iPhone was generating. It turns out: not much.

    Upon arrival, at about 7.30am, no more than 10 people were queuing. By the time the doors opened, about half an hour later, the number of people was closer to 30.

    This is a far cry from years past when there would be literally hundreds of people in line to purchase Apple's latest smartphone."

    It's Not Just China: No Lines For New iPhone 8 Virtually Anywhere
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-22/its-not-just-china-no-lines-new-iphone-8-virtually-anywhere

    "Earlier we showed that in a striking lack of enthusiasm for Apple's latest offering, the iPhone 8 which went on sale today, there were just two people in "line" in front of an Apple store in China: less than the security guards at the same location."
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    "Unfortunately for Tim Cook, it appears that it was not just China as the entire world appears to have gotten collective cold feet when it comes to Apple's newest gizmo, because while Apple Stores are usually faced with shockingly long lines on the morning of a new iPhone launch, that wasn't the case today. Anywhere."
     
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  6. Vasudev

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    I'd settle for max of $650 anything above isn't worth it and then again, I can invest in a better PC like 2 in 1 or Surface if I need on the go computing instead of paying $1000 on a phone.
     
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    It makes sense when you use iPhone Calculator application.
     
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    Funny Glitch :)
     
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    Here's some interesting take...on the 3.5mm "No space" drama.

    Well let's approach it by point to point.

    X Ray scans -

    iPhone 6S
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    iPhone 6S Plus
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    iPhone 7 Plus
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    Okay as you can see the first 2, 6S vs 6SP both have different sizes of the Taptic Engine which Apple claimed to have occupying the space on the iPhone 7. But as you can notice the 6SP vs 6S both have different sizes for the same haptic feedback engine (highlighted with blackbox, and also it's a blackbox on the 6S its has large length vs the Plus) & on the 7 it has gained more size and now it's housing a barometric vent. Coming to the top red box, lets save it for later..


    Next up as you can see the iPhone X gut shot here and the iPhone X Scan.

    [​IMG]
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    Now here comes two important observations one is the top red box which if you can see on all the iPhones is occupied by some electronic component perhaps Flex cables on the 7 and something else on the 6S series..whereas on the iPhone X you have what ? Absolutely nothing.. Wait, it's not over yet. See the chipset shots of the iPhone X below.

    iPhone 7P vs the X chipset shot.
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    Magic ?! Nope it's just what Engineering companies do..

    iPhone X chipset fold, removed
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    X Chipset Scan shots
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    As you can see those pins type which run across the whole perimeter. They just made a PCB sandwich which operate with a different communication system over flex cabling, with those pins/holes called "via" from one plane to another. PCB basics, EE stuff.

    "With the pieces separated, we tallied the area of all of the separate layers, and added it up to 135% of the iPhone 8 Plus logic board's area. Way to go putting more into less, Apple."

    Oh also the camera module is stacked beneath the motherboard, thus "bump". & Yeah this device has 2 bumps - One is camera which makes you feel it physically and the other "notch" which attacks you mentally.

    A bonus for ya all. Check this bad boy..
    iPhone 2G gut shot of the Chipset - Circa 2007, same way of designing the motherboard.
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    Another bonus I'll add a gut shot of my old iPod 5.5G Video (with a powerful chip for DAC/AMP which makes a few DAPs not worth if you have this due to mod-ability and custom OS, for PnP type UX...Wolfson WM8758)
    [​IMG]

    Blue is the PCB for the Flex cabling and the 3.5 interface, Yellow one is the Piezo buzzer + 3.5mm port - Circa 2005 shot.

    So yeah, Apple doesn't have space ? Pure B$. Milking consumers to max with the lame drama.
    removing a 100% working standard and forcing them to use these DRMed/Walled territory hell.

    Look how expensive the value of these are, the BT sets. Wired ones vs Wireless.
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    And the Apple's riches
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    Wait for it, the next iPhone will have an eSIM because look how BIG that Nano sim slot is on the PCB of the Motherboard of the X, iPixel 2 2017 has the eSIM, way to go, Less and less choice to consumers and owning a device, A perpetual eternal cycle of technological dependency which grows exponentially as we move towards Data >>> Oil age.

    Huge thanks to iFixit for the images and the neat teardowns & Soundguys for the report on the market.
     
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  10. hmscott

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    iPhone X Review: Testing (and Tricking) FaceID


    Hmmm, why didn't Apple implement "side-face" ID so we don't have to look away and at the phone to unlock? :)

    We put the iPhone X's Face ID to the test with twins — and the results surprised us


    Does Face ID work on iPhone X?
     
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    Better pc? :confused: And on top Support M$? Give me a break my friend. Haven’t M$ Morons done enough with trashing their latest <desktop> OS? Aka design it for their own trashware? People should STOP buying filth!!
    +rep
    As expected. They think people is stupid. Maybe they are correct? Because People buy much filthy nowadays.
     
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  12. killkenny1

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    Says a guy who is using Windows OS... :rolleyes:

    Can't wait for when Apple will remove charging port!
     
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    Not many other options if you as me like overclocking. Try Xtu or TS on CrApple or Linux based OS. At least I don’t run it on Jokebooks :)
     
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  14. Vasudev

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    @hmscott I don't think ijustine did the testing correctly. Her entire room, car and living room was having sufficient light for FaceID to work correctly.
    I don't think faceid would work correctly in dark areas considering my complexion is pretty dark than fair.

    Its better than spending $1000 on a phone or an iPad. MS surface or Yoga would do the work for ultraportable machines. I know the limitations but I will be having a Prema modded BIOS and vBIOS in my home for full fledged performance minus the throttling.

    They would say charge the phone with your Chi energy. Excess energy will used for ML and data mining to increase battery life and throttling behaviour so that device stays anew.
     
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    Whom say you *must* throw out $1000 usd ? Put the cash into the flower pot or the bank and see they grow :)
    [​IMG]

     
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    You do realize this makes you a hypocrite, tho :D.
    Bashing Windows 10, while still using it.

    Some people around the Internet actually suggest that Apple might remove all ports in the future (well, what's left of them), and I actually can see that. It would be so Apple.
     
  17. ronaldheld

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    no long lines for the X?? Anyone get one? Thanks for the X breakdowns.
     
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    iJustine actually did do a completely dark room (closet) with lights off test, just lit by the phone screen, and it worked! Starts @ ~07:00 in her video.

    I guess you won't know until you try!! ;)

    Hopefully the Apple Engineers are fans of "Better off Ted", and saw the "Racial Sensitivity" episode, and worked out the variances in human complexion. :)

    Better off Ted “Racial Sensitivity”
     
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  19. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    Yeah the learning curve can be hard.
    [​IMG]
     
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  21. Vasudev

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    I'm behind you by 7 years but I will catch up soon using Time machine to speed up my ageing.
    No, I rarely use my phone unless I'm traveling, it'll be lying on a table always. I'm very slow at typing using touch. The thing that saved me was MSFT's word flow that can match my friends typing speed. You can Ask @judal57 of course, I'm a snail w/o Word flow. That's the reason I am adamant to switch to iOS or Droids (GBoard app has the functionality of gesture typing).
    I have 2 years time to think about switching. Inclining towards Android though.
    @Phoenix Do you know any way to make S7 store photos,videos,music and docs on SD card w/o rooting it. Because its low on space about 2GB free space.
     
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    That's really odd...
    iphone-x-green-line.jpg
    "At least 25 customers have shared photos of the potential hardware defect across the Apple Support Communities, Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, and the MacRumors forums since the iPhone X launched a week ago. Of course, in a production run of millions of iPhone X units, it is a small percentage of devices affected so far.

    "So I was playing with my new phone and all of a sudden, this happened," said one MacRumors forum member with the alias tmiles81. "It's a really bright line going down the entire right side of the phone.""

    "The green line wasn't visible on any of the affected iPhone X units when they were first taken out of the box, but rather developed spontaneously after some period of usage in normal conditions. The devices involved also don't appear to have been dropped or damaged in any way. "
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    "The green line wasn't visible on any of the affected iPhone X units when they were first taken out of the box, but rather developed spontaneously after some period of usage in normal conditions. The devices involved also don't appear to have been dropped or damaged in any way.

    "Day one and a bright green line has appeared down the right side of the iPhone X," said Apple Support Communities user benvolio1979.

    Many of the user reports claim that restarting or even fully restoring the device doesn't remove the green line, which typically runs vertically along the right or left side of the display, but can show up elsewhere on the screen."
    iphone-x-green-line-duo-800x522.jpg
    "The issue doesn't appear to be limited to specific iPhone X models or locations. We've seen reports from owners of both 64GB and 256GB configurations in Silver or Space Gray in the United States, Canada, Poland, and Australia at a minimum. If you are affected, share a photo in the comments section below.

    MacRumors hasn't been able to reproduce the issue. Apple declined to comment in an emailed response from a spokesperson.

    Apple has been replacing affected iPhone X units free of charge, according to customers who contacted the company. Apple also appears to be collecting data from the incidents so that its engineers can investigate the matter, as it routinely does with any potential hardware or software issues. "
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    " iPhone X display's diamond subpixel pattern (DisplayMate via TechCrunch)"

    "The green line could be an isolated defect with the iPhone X's OLED display. Samsung's Galaxy S7 also uses OLED and suffered from a similar issue last year in which a pink line appeared on some displays. Samsung acknowledged the issue as hardware failure and worked to replace affected devices.

    If you experience this problem, we recommend booking a Genius Bar appointment or contacting Apple's support team via phone, email, or online chat. Apple is generally helpful in these situations.

    Update: TechCrunch notes that the iPhone X display has a new diamond subpixel pattern and, as such, all green sub-pixels appear in lines. The report speculates that there could be an electrical fault in some of the devices that is causing voltage to flow to all of the green sub-pixels. "
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    At least Apple has decent warranty.
     
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    Same for Samsung, they replaced the faulty phones too:

    "Samsung's Galaxy S7 also uses OLED and suffered from a similar issue last year in which a pink line appeared on some displays. Samsung acknowledged the issue as hardware failure and worked to replace affected devices."
     
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    When my S7 Edge suffered the near-identical pink line defect six months after purchasing it, Samsung replaced my phone with a new (not refurbished) phone at no cost to me. This is after they gave me a 100% refund plus $100 cash for returning my Note 7.

    I’m not saying Apple wouldn’t also take care of its customers. I just read your “at least” comment as suggesting that Samsung wouldn’t respond the same way as Apple will.
     
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    iPhone X Review
     
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    With every new technology debut, it’s given there will be some issues. Now it depends on the manufacturer tolerances and sigma standards what percentage is acceptable.

    However, OLED is nothing new to Samsung and they have had the OLED screens on their phones for years. I think it might just be because Apple wanted to have certain specs different and to their liking.

    I do like my X screen though, I love the blacks!
     
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    How to Unlock the iPhone X Using an Unlocking Service
     
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    Sprint increasing iPhone X insurance price to $17/month starting Dec 1st. |link|
     
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    I am an Apple user. For mobile anyways. But I am getting the essential. It’s what the ipx should have been.
     
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    More advanced power chips mean more advanced throttling algorithms. Maybe Apple can finally circumvent showing throttling and ****y scores when their phones being used in test/benchmarks with degraded battery? :rolleyes:
     
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    Downgraded iPhone 4S back to iOS 6 and it is still amazingly fast and usable in 2017. Apple deliberately ****s with older iphones every major iOS iteration. I wish I could send my SE back to iOS 9.
     
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    iphone 7 was slower on ios 11.1 and they brought back the performance and snappiness on ios 11.2
     
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    My 6s is acting a little weird for the past week or so. Dropping calls. Etc. I hope 11.2 fixes that
     
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    With 11.2 my mom doesn't get the call at all. I suggest holding onto current version. I tried soft reset, Wondershare safe eraser to clear junk files. Nothing helps.
     
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    Mine seems to be working fine after the update. My battery health is still 95% after 2 years of hard use, so I am not getting any slow downs on the device side of things either....YET. At least I know whats going on and it's a 70 dollar fix. My wifes Ipad needs a new battery and it's barely useable now it's throttled down so much. Have a new battery ordered at the local ifixcrap store here, will be in right after Christmas.
     
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    New iphone 7. Because of crap ios11 battery drain, I actually drained it to 0% and wear level is 5%.
     
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    Geekbench Dev Confirms Apple Throttles Performance On iPhones With Older Batteries - Hothardware.com

    "It looks like the developers behind the popular cross-platform Benchmark have confirmed suspicions that many users have amassed with regards to overall system performance on "older" iPhones. Earlier this month, we reported on a link between CPU throttling on some previous generation models and iOS updates that were pushed out to address unrelated battery-life issues regarding premature shutdowns."

    Poole's testing showed that large variances in Geekbench 4 scores began cropping up after iOS 10.2.1, which was a release that aimed to fix premature shutdowns on certain iPhone models. By the time iOS 11.2.0 rolled around, Apple's apparent CPU throttling algorithms really started ramping up, as we're seeing a multimodal distribution of scores.

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    You will experience similar behaviour if your notebook Comes with the modern Hybrid BIOS / Battery BOOST features.
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    Apple Confirms That It Cripples CPU Performance On iPhones With Aging Batteries

    Rather than let this controversy fester, Apple has now responded. In a statement provided to The Verge, Apple writes:

    "Our goal is to deliver the best experience for customers, which includes overall performance and prolonging the life of their devices. Lithium-ion batteries become less capable of supplying peak current demands when in cold conditions, have a low battery charge or as they age over time, which can result in the device unexpectedly shutting down to protect its electronic components.

    Last year we released a feature for iPhone 6, iPhone 6s and iPhone SE to smooth out the instantaneous peaks only when needed to prevent the device from unexpectedly shutting down during these conditions. We’ve now extended that feature to iPhone 7 with iOS 11.2, and plan to add support for other products in the future."

    Not surprisingly, Apple's language actually confirms Poole's findings that these speed limits were put in place for the iPhone 6/iPhone 6s/iPhone SE with iOS 10.2.1 and with the iPhone 7 in iOS 11.2. However, Apple is flatly denying that its efforts are a move to "encourage" users to upgrade to a newer iPhone.
     
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    It's quite the opposite. It's to keep peoples phones useful, Longer. I would rather have a slow down in performance than have a phone that keeps a charge for less than 2 hrs. What good is that?
     
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    I completely disagree, I want a phone that works as advertised w/o any throttling alg. intentionally giving reduced performance.
    Atleast Apple can alert users to replace the battery instead of reducing the performance.
     
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    I am away from power for many hours at a time...and I rely on my phone. There for having reduced performance, at the expense of making it through the day with battery is a fine trade off. whats the point of a phone if you can only be away from a power outlet for an hour. I know when my phone starts to slow down it's time to replace the battery...but I will still make it through the day USING my phone instead of being on the move then an hour later my phone is dead.
     
  46. Tinderbox (UK)

    Tinderbox (UK) BAKED BEAN KING

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    I would rather have a message informing me to replace the battery, rather than have the performance sneakily reduced so you do not notice the reduction in battery capacity.

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    kojack Notebook Prophet

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    I agree, but I think the message should state your speed could be reduced if you do not replace your battery. But like I said, having long battery life is important to ALOT of people...more so than having peak performance for 1 hr instead.
     
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  48. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Who said to you that you can't feed your phone with more power on the go?

    You find it everywhere. None should be allowed to cripple performance. Not in computers, tablets or smartphones. YOU have paid a Hell lot of money for the advertised performance. Not for firmware who cripple the same performance you have paid for!!!

    Why should I get crippled performance because other want same hardware? BUY A POWER BANK.
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  49. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Why not activate Low Power mode and carry a power bank to charge your phone when you're away from power source.
     
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