*** Official Sager NP9877 / Clevo P870TM-G Owner's Lounge! - Phoenix 4 ***

Alright, I'll leave the sticker on and refrain from the pads then. Although, I've noticed this things runs a little on the hotter side, the laptop that is. I ordered a laptop cooler that came in the mail while I was abroad for work and I just got back in the states today so I plan on seeing just how much this laptop cooler helps. My desktop watercooled 1080's spoiled me when it comes to temps So when this thing runs 80c I start losing my mind lol

The GPU's seems to be ok as far as temps go, mostly.

But man, that CPU....that booger runs warm...

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...cussions-lounge.794968/page-360#post-10458316

 

You made that?

That's pretty sweet man. You happy with the temp results from it?

 

Got the laptop booted up and now the ssd isn't showing up anywhere in device manager. I made sure I installed in the the sata ssd slot too. I'm thinking maybe it needs the driver before the system will recognize it? Even still, I feel like the system would still pick it up as an "unknown device" without the driver, but it isn't.

Edit: I fixed it.

 

As promised, here are my pictures. I installed the correct ram (2666mhz, as HID accidentally sent me 2400mhz) and I installed a new 1TB WD Blue SSD. Enjoy!

 

Here are the others, it wouldn't let me upload all at once.

 

This is the cooler I got @Papusan
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016PMVM7Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

CPU is holding at an average of 75c(not too bad) with fans on system fans on high, 4 fans on cooler going, with the laptop tilted. GPU's are at 85-90c (not too good) with same conditions. This is on BF4 after 30 mins of playtime.

I expected better temps with vapor chamber. Not happy with these temps at all. Plus, the area where my right palm lies on the laptop (just south a few inches of the down arrow on the keyboard) is burning hot.

 

I got 2 Samsung NVME in mine. No thermal pads at all. Temps are not an issue.

 

Those temps are insane. Something is most definitely wrong. I've NEVER seen temps that high on my machine even with the fans on auto while gaming. I dont even have the vapor chamber yet! I'm runnin the small heatsink.

 

Yeah, i'm seeing that during my monitoring. The ssd drives are running at decent temps.

 

Weak 5v fans won't do much. And 1/2 of the fans on the cooler will blow directly in the black plastic (bottom lid without grills opening).


And You probably need re-pad heatsink.

What I like with a cooler is almost no need for cleaning inside the chassis. My homemade fan filter from my dear wife's nylon stockings.

Spoiler: Fans without cleaning - used +8 months

 

That's what I was thinking too. I don't know what to do. I figured vapor chamber would have given me better temps than I am currently seeing.

 

Which heatseak?

I figured I should at least be seeing some better temps with this cooler running than not though, ya know? Regardless if they're weak, they're still feeding air upinto it vs not having it at all. Hell, even a 5c temp drop. But my temp was showing 88c on one GPU, 85c on the other, as AVERAGE. With spikes topping out at 89c and 87c respectively.

Shouldn't I be consistently running high 70's low 80's with vapor chamber and fans on max?

 

Heatsink for Gpu's. As this is your problem.

 

FUG YEAH! Good ole pantyhose filter. Been doin that for YEARS!

 

I see. Well, I've never done that before. But I'm sure I could learn. HID did include 3 additional thermal pads and tubes of thermal paste. I wasn't aware the GPU's in this even had thermal pads on them.

 

Am I late to the party?

I am considering ordering one from HID sometime these days actually, what are the usual temps for it, and can it run silent while doing chrome browsing, or it will be like P775DM3-G?

 

The following link is the handiest thing I've ever found in a forum

http://forum.notebookreview.com/search/

 

XenFro search is literally useless. No use for it, gotta ask every single thing to actually get a result.

 

@Phoenix way of listing things is pretty handy actually, it is hard to find exactly what Prema BIOS does, but in one simle word, it makes the machine usable and enjoyable. I ran my machine for about 8 months without Prema, and while it was an acceptable laptop, it was nowhere near what it is after Prema's magic. Simply put, the fans now work, the CPU now works, and it doesn't freeze or restart randomly, which did happen before Prema's magic. I have no idea why it happened, but it did, and @Prema solved all the issues.

 

I believe that the initial comment was a facetious one...

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

 

Welp

I still want to learn more about the 870TM-G lappys.

I'm leaning between getting a desktop build with 8700k + 1080ti, or another lappy with 8700K + 1080. Kinda sad that I still need to move, and even if I'd get a desktop, it still needs to be in one of those m-ATX or iATX or whatever, the smaller the better, so a lappy kinda makes sense if it is properly optimized.

 

Using our best Thermal Materials upgrade, with the HIDevolution delidded, undervolted -50mV (you can undervolt more for even better temps) and overclocked Intel® Core™ i7-8700K to 4.8GHz, our max temps vary slightly depending on the chip, but are right around 69 Celsius. If we just delid , but do not overclock, and undervolt more you could see temps that are substantially cooler. If you don't want us to overclock, and undervolt as much as possible while maintaining solid stability, just ask for that in the special requests text box as you checkout.

Yes, it is much quieter while browsing than the EVOC P775DM3-G

 

Well Duck a Duck

My P775DM3-G sits at a dandy 80C but on 4.0GHz and -100mV. Now I'm not sure how much of an improvement this upgrade would be for me, but I suspect that it would be along the lines of an at least 20% improvement in daily activites, no?

 

Well that's a little concerning then. What is the voltage supposed to be at when it leaves HID as undervolted @ a 4.8ghz overclock?

Also, does the IHS stay on the cpu when you guys do your delid? How does HID do it?

 

Each chip is different, so the undervolt will vary depending on performance.

Here is how we delid:
1.) Delid
2.) Clean up old silicone and thermal paste
3.) Apply Grizzly Conductonaut
4.) Carefully apply Permatex 82180 Ultra Black Maximum Oil Resistance RTV Silicone to seal IHS back to the CPU
5.) Let it dry before installing on any system
6.) Install and apply Gelid GC Extreme between the IHS and heatsink

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If you have issues, it is better to contact our Support Team than trying to hash things out here on the forum.

 

My experience is mostly limited to phbb. But apparently the foo that werks with that also werks with XenFro in a comparable manner....

I've been able to find answers to every question I've had without having to ask just by searching forums.

Especially with questions as vague as temps without stating use cases...

Every laptop runs chrome with no noise unless its clogged with broken dreams and cat hair...

 

Um... No

P775DM3-G that was just cleaned, always was and always will be a bit noisy using chrome. Well, I never have less than 15 tabs open to be honest, but that's another story entirely.

Also, I wasn't able to find an answer to any question using the XenFro method so far. Head-Fi search is doing okay right now, but here I noticed that asking yields more results than searching. I do read the thread and what happened before actually, at least just for fun.

Back on topic.

I wonder of P870T will be able to stay quiet with 15 tabs of chrome, Foobar and another app open? I'm asking this because a brand new P775 cannot, they will make some noise, or heat a lot.

 

Mine is basically silent with 11 tabs open in chrome, MPC-HC, deluge, HWMonitor, steam, origin, GOG, and a bunch of other QOL softwares running.

 

@Phoenix @Meaker@Sager @Donald@HIDevolution

To all my bus and geeks,
I am planning to buy this laptop, but can anyone owning this laptop with following specs
P870tm1-g
Any ram
1070 gtx in sli!!
I7 8700k not oced
Any screen type

Tell me the following bechmarks, along with temps of cpu and gpu

Furmark bechmark with fps(1080p),
Thief(ultra 1080p)
Bioshock(ultra 1080p).
Gta v (ultra 4k )
Thanks for any help

 

Honestly the 1070sli isnt really worth the money over a single 1080 especially since sli doesnt scale very well.

 

And use of Furmark bechmark is banned of all!! None want kill their graphics.

 

I want to go with 1070 sli because i do lot of rendering hence none can beat in sli

 

Okay then, but can you still say me of thief and bioshock, or maybe rise of tomb raider at 1080p ultra?(gta v at 4k wil also do)
I just want to vompare performance with gt83vr 7re, wanna see if p870tm1 g with a desktop cpu can slay msi??

 

CPU wise the 8700k at stock speeds is much faster than the 7820hk in the gt83vr especially in multi-threaded workloads. The P870TM1 has no problem keeping it from throttling as long as it's delidded.

 

I know theoretically 8700k is dominant over 7920hq, but just want to confirm it practically through benchmarks!!

 

Here's my cinebench. Do you want any other CPU benchmarks? My CPU is at stock settings.

 

Hello, thaks man, the i7 7920hq is at 830 on r15 multicore,
Can i ask you just on little bit more??
Can you tell me score of it at r15 single core of 8700k in your laptop??

 

Focus on a single 1080, you will get much better experience with a larger number of software than if using a 1070 SLI config. Either this, or go 1080 SLI, 1070 SLI isn't worth it at all IMHO.


Try to check with HID if you can, they can help a lot with your CPU and temps and all.

 

Higher clocks and 50% more cores, so lots to love if you need multi thread performance

 

I reran the single core and multi-core tests

 

so what laptop cooler would you recommend then? I feel like the more fans the merrier.

 

A modded notepal u3 plus with 3x 12V 120mm fans with high cfm and high static pressure, all the other 5V fans are weak and do not push as much air.

 

My U3 has 3 iPPC NF-F12s. I'm thinking of making a 24V fan controller to make use of the extra speed the fans can give.

 

Well, the 7920hq is at 176 for single core, i think i will go with a mobile gaming cpu 8th gen so iget also multi threaded things done fast,


What is concluded here?? The dekstop cpus in the laptops of clevo still cant run at full capacity, and give just a lil bit more juice then mobile ones...

 

I'm not really trying to mod a laptop cooler though. I'm just looking to buy a cooler and use it right out of the box.

 

Well, there are actually no aftermarket coolers for any laptop!!
Your best bet is to mod your cooler,
Or use copper shims for better chip to cooler contact!
Or get a tarkan cooling pad!!

 

Not really, it runs just fine on stock. I get 14xx on the stock frequency see my post . Once you up the multi's though, you need @Prema sbios to stop the throttling that is for sure ;-)

Elevating the back of the laptop will help with temps. I'm currently using an sf17 notebook cooler right now (away from home) and it is around 7C hotter than my modded notepal u3.

 

That's weird, because I'm using one right now.... -_-

I am doing that already. It has helped a little I will say.

Why are you using a cooler with only 1 fan?

 

What???
Which laptop and which cooler you bought?? Dont tell me it is a cooling pad tho. I was talking about heatsink cooling which is fitted IN the laptop