**Official Sager NP9270 / Clevo P270WM Owners Lounge**

Thank you Patrick.

We have seen information like what is in the above links before for previous Intel releases.

However, it is too early to say that is what it is. Things can speed up at a good pace by the end of April.

We will see...

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Well this is frustrating. I was waiting for Ivy Bridge before I upgraded.

Now my tax return will be wasted on booze instead!

 

Frustrating doesn't even cover half of the disappointment I feel.
This is going to be one hell of a wait..

 

Bull, Intel just has been having issues. The still have yet to get their butts in gear on the 3930K and are not about to let loose IB and the 3930K at the same time as they are meant for X79. On top of that they are just starting to pump out the 3820. This all with the fact few are willing to fork out for a 3960x that has so little to offer over a 3930K. Even NewEgg has a IBP desktop with a 3960x, they just are not the hot seller Intel wanted.

Unless the mobile IB's are fully socket compatible to all SBe's then a price setting of the cpu's in a discount will not help either. 99% of the users out there purchase by price not overall performance...................

 

Why would Intel even expect people to swarm over the 3960X? It is a $1000 CPU for extreme overclockers and people with too much money. And I think there is not a lot of them.

 

The 3960X is also for those who use their computers to literally make them money. It's a business expense. Consider that many people who are interested in the P270WM are getting it for professional usage; these people need the absolute maximum CPU horsepower possible at the time because for them, time = money.

 

That is exactly correct ettornio. And, there are a lot more of them out there than there are starving students.

The 3960X is not the biggest seller by far, but for those who need, and know how to use that much CPU power the expense is minimal for a professional tool.

 

Intel has been notorious for overpricing their processors for years. I personally don't feel the processors are worth that much money, but when you don't have any competition you can price it any way you want.

 

That would be correct if the 3930k didn't exist. With both unlocked one would really struggle to find an application that can make a good use of the extra cache. Until someone can prove me wrong with actual numbers - the 3960XM is waste of money, IMHO, at least based on 10-12 extensive reviews I've seen thus far.

NOTE: as far OC'ing goes, given the limited thermal capacity of the CPU heatsink in this beast, if I'm to make a guess, the 3930K is the overall winner. The 3960x produces more heat when pushed past 4ghz. So, those with intent to push this thing, do your math carefully.

 

3960X in P270WM is a little overkill imo. There is probably not much headroom for overclocking, even given the awesome cooling.

 

Have to disagree somewhat here. The 3% clock increase, and not even 3% increase in performance, is not going to generate sales to a profesional. You are correct when there is a significant statistical advantage though. Or in the case as it is now, the only available games in town between the 3820 and 3960x. The 3930K in a system is close to impossible to get a hold of.

Now the aprox. $800 difference between a 3820 and 3960x is a no brainer for business when the extra power is mission critical. No one wants to invest in a system that will fail to do its job or does so inadaquately. The rarity of a system with a 3930K doing an inadaquate job where a 3960x would do adaquately though is mind boggling..................

 

Intel is only delaying dual core mobile Ivy Bridge CPUs by VR-Zone.com

 

The question is, can the customer use the potential of the unlocked CPU's in the P270WM? That remains to be seen. Paying for an extreme processor and being unable to use all it's power, is like buying a racing car and never leave downtown.

 

Hey guys I've been looking at buying a laptop and have made my mind up on the P270WM. All I will be using this notebook for is to play Diablo 3. My question is do you guys think that this laptop is a bit of overkill? Can you guys recommend a better/ cheaper alternative. I like the idea of the 16.3" monitor and the new chip. I work away alot so Im not to fussed about size/weight.

 

Dude... only Diablo 3? This machine is for far more than just gaming. You're probably better off with the P170HM or the P170EM (when released).

 

Overkill doesn't even describe it. Get a P170EM (it's due later this year).
It should handle Diablo 3 just fine.

This machine would break everything called benchmarking and it's the meanest laptop ever released (as far as I know)!

 

Here's some supporting info - Sandy Bridge Extreme Overclocking Thread (X79, 3930K, 3960X) - AnandTech Forums
Notice that the 3930k overclocks higher even in the desktop segment where cooling is not the problem. Extra cache of the 3960x seems to cause some heat and stability issues when pushed at around 4.5ghz. Some food for thought...

 

Thanks for your input guys but I think I might still get it although stripped back. Single SSD, dvd instead of blueray. All in all the system is coming in at slightly over $3k through Gentech and with the aussie dollar being what it is there should be a healthy saving =) In a way your discouragement encouraged me XD

 

I went with the basic config as well. I have my own SSD that I plan to use, and also went with the regular DVD player as I have no use for the blu-ray. I figured if there was an upgrade I wanted to do later on I could do it. But as is I don't think I'll be needing to upgrade anything for quite some time.

 

As far as the overclocking ability of this model with the 3960X in it, this is yet to be determined.

Before summer we should know when some advanced users get this setup.

The question or concern that getting this machine with the 3960X is overkill or just not needed.....well this may be true for many.

True, very, very few would need or see the real benefit for this power.

However, in a simular way, very, very few or none need or would see the need to buy a 2012 ZL1 Camaro with the 580HP under the hood.

The ones that are buying this model with the Extreme 3960X are buying it for probably the same reason ones are buying the ZL1 Camaro......

They have the money AND they just want it. What is wrong with that?


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I'm sort of in this boat, but I still wanted to stay under 3k to keep my wife off my back. Thats why I stuck with the default config. Also, if you look at the CPU benchmarks from this site ( PassMark CPU Lookup ), there isn't a lot of difference between the 3930 and the 3960. It made the decision a little easier.

 

Ooh yeah got to love whats under the hood =) I was looking at the msi gt783 but even with the 2960XM chip a similar system comes in closer to $4k. Why wouldn't any one go the way of the P270WM to save money and get all that extra performance. I'm just biding my time looking at this baby.

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Except for one little difference. You can use the ZL1 Camaro's potential in some places but you won't be able to OC' the 3960X significantly in the P270WM. You will actually, most likely be able to OC the 3930k higher and if that's the case, it's very unfortunate, especially for those who paid or intend to pay extra for the "X".

 

Firstly, hi everyone!
I have been watching this Lounge for a while but finally posting!
Firstly I'm a CAD/ 3d guy, so this purchase is a workstation replacement for me.
I was pretty unsure myself on what to do with this beast as far as CPU goes, it's a lot of extra cash with not a lot of solid data to show it will be worth it in extra performance.
Based on this, i ordered mine with the 3820. It's still a decent upgrade for my current lappy and I can live with a performance hit until some 'real life' data comes to light and keep the money in the bank.
If figures from the 3930/ 3960 don't impress, I'm happy to keep the 3820 as a place holder until Ivy E is released, which would make this beast unbelievable if the hype can be realised.

 

Yes I do know a place not too far from here in Las Vegas where I can really "Punch It" with a ZL1!

Anyway I really think it is too early to know yet if the 3960X will overclock significantly in the P270WM.

Like I said when at least a few advanced, experienced, users have this setup, putting it though the paces...then we will know.

We look forward to what these advanced, experienced, users tell us.

BTW, do you want to be one of these to test this beast?


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This time around I'd rather observe from a distance...at least until you make a video and post a few benches including Wprime1.55 32mb and 1024mb

 

There will probably be alot of video up by the time I get my LT, you northern hemispherians tend to get stuff waaaay before us southernites. Anyway if by some chance I'm the first to receive my powerbox i'll post some video. I'm just waiting for my next pay before I place my order, i'll let you guys know how it goes.

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Hey Duffy according to a few reports Australia is one of the first places to get them
I'm in SA, but have purchased mine from QLD as the price i found was on the money and the specs i wanted (with a wide range available.)
If you want a link PM me, price to ship was waaaaay to high for my liking.

 

I would but you need to have 5 posts to pm and ding ding I just hit that. Idk what the etiquette is maybe spam another thread or just post the info here im interested to hear what you have to say.

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Here is some late breaking news from Sager:

"Our goal at Sager is to provide you with the ultimate customer experience and a level of reliability that is second to none in the industry. While we believe we meet this goal on a consistent basis, from time to time factors beyond our control intervene to interfere with the way we prefer to do business. In this instance, we regret to inform you that our new NP9270 (Clevo P270WM) unit, which was due to ship later this month, will be delayed for up to an additional month.

The delay stems from additional stability testing from our partner company, Clevo. While Clevo has spent considerable time and effort to resolve all open stability issues, to date there are still a issues remaining preventing the unit from meeting the rigorous demands of our internal testing. The end result is that we are forced to delay the delivery date for this product until possibly mid-April.

All of us here at Sager are extremely sorry for this inconvenience to our customers who have already pre-ordered the NP9270 (Clevo P270WM) or who plan to order it. At this time, we will no longer accept pre-orders until we have additional details on when the unit will ship. For our existing pre-order customers, we plan to offer an additional discount for those who do not cancel their orders. Thank you again for your consideration and for your patience as we work through these issues. We will have the NP9270 (Clevo P270WM) available as soon as possible."

 

^^^^ Yes this delay is true...we will keep you posted...

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X7200 is back order?

 

I still need a version with 120Hz screen. I am hoping that will not get delayed as well but I am pretty sure it will. My curreent system will do fine till then though.

I am hoping the 3820 still stays as an option for a place holder to IB unless the new CPU's are available by then too....................

 

This just means the gap inbetween the launch of the non-3d and 3D model will be closer.

Also please remember that when Ivy Bridge launches this year it WONT include any chips for Socket 2011. Thats Ivy Bridge-E and that has a early 2013 launch window.

 

Hopefully, Clevo is working on a new improved CPU heatsink.... dreams...

 

Argh, i was planing on having this system for using in school doing visual effects. Now its a total delay of almost 4 months =( I'll be out of school by the time this beast comes out on the market. For good or for bad =/

 

Clevo's priority now is getting the regular 2D screens ready on this model. Then the 120Hz 3D screens.

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Is this documented anywhere? And note, I can also accept the answer "Trust me, I have inside knowledge."

All I have is an old article (Nov 2011), suggesting end of 2012 - Maximum PC | Intel Ivy Bridge-E Processors to Support LGA 2011, Shipping in Q4 2012

 

Remember that SNB-E was supposed to launch months before it did, Dual Core IVB Desktop/Mobile slipped a few months, and so I bet IVB-E will be a few extra months too just based on track record (Read: No documentation anywhere, just an educated guess)

 

DELAYED!!!!!! omg!!!

 

While it's a bummer that the release date has slipped, I can live with it on the basis that I know i will be receiving a product with less issues!
The joys of pre-order and new technology!
I see they speak of a discount, what sort of discount are we talking? I assume this is something which will be available through discussions with our re-sellers/ place of purchase?

I would really appreciate any info you guys have on this

 

Sager has not announced what additional discount will be available yet. We will let you know once they do.

 

Not back ordered...the X7200 has been discontinued as the Sager NP7282.

The Sager NP9270 (P270WM) has been delayed.

 

delayed.......very good
no prob im going to wait till gtx680m

btw see this...

haha and a thinner & cooler 450w power brick

 

only downsides to this that doesnt come with 18 or 19 inch, or even 20 inch. i miss the old sager 20 inch laptop np59** lol. annnnnd not enough usb 3.0 ports.

 

It may be cathartic for you to post here - http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...s/646157-whatever-happened-19-21-laptops.html.

 

Still going with the GF114 architecture I see. I wonder why nVidia isn't updating? Looks they're just relying on the 28nm refresh for performance gains. Granted, the GF114 performs well, and it's tessellation kicks the crud out of AMD, but with AMDs 7k line running a brand new architecture with better tessellation support; one would think nVidia needs to compete. Which makes me wonder what they have in store for the 700 series.

Exciting times! (I know I'm a nerd.)