*** Official Sager NP8671 / Clevo P670SE - Sager NP8672 / Clevo P670SG Owner's Lounge ***

How do you find that? I can't even find anything that says Onkyo in Windows.

 

It won't say Onkyo, but look in your volume controls and then to devices and their respective standard volumes, it's in there for all speakers including the sub.

 

OK, found it. . .part of the Realtek config

 

I'm being plagued by Power Kernel spontaneous reboots... Unable to find the source but it's been happening since the beginning and only now realized what the error is.
Anybody have any thoughts about this?

 

A quick google yielded a few things you could check that have worked for others:

Disable hibernation/sleep/Fast startup
Check cable to PSU seated solidly
Check for adequate power to outlet
Does this happen when running on battery only?

I have all power management disabled and have not encountered what you're experiencing (fingers crossed)

 

First of all thanks for not biting my head off, because I forgot to mention I Googled my fingers raw myself and found a LOT of potential causes. Many people whip out their pointy fingers when you even forget to mention you did your own due diligence.

So many causes were there in fact that I started at the beginning - I started to think.
I seemed to have some other errors mostly directly preceding the reboots, related to CPU power state and how it was being held back.
So in the end I just put a clean ghost back and presto, whatever I screwed up got unscrewed.
I'm suspecting the registry hard CPU core unpark... either way, solved.

The one thing I rarely saw with other reporters with this error is if they made a clean install with different drivers... makes you wonder...

 

Eurocom is located in Ottawa, if you want a Canadian-based reseller.

 

Hey all,
I've been thinking about buying a new laptop for both gaming and college (editing, programming, etc...) for quite awhile now and seem to have settled on this one. However, before I buy one and drop some serious cash on it I figured I'd ask a few questions here since I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject and it'll be my first true gaming computer.
1) During long gaming sessions do you typically find it's cooling to be sufficient or do you have to resort to a cooling pad?
2) Is the keyboard anti-ghosting? Despite looking it up on google I haven't been able to find a definitive answer to that.
3) How is the overall build quality? Is it rugged enough to be carried around a college campus in a bag?
4) Since buying it, have any major problems arose that should be concerning?
I'm sorry if some of these questions have already been answered here, I read over the forum pretty thoroughly but I may have missed something.
Thanks for the help!

 

1. More than adequate.
2. Don't know what that is, but the keys respond quick in succession.
3. Good, yes.
4. None here and none that I know of, except that us 17"ers are few and far between. Bigger IS better!

On a non related matter: the P650 seem to have service manuals in their topic, can anyone source a service manual for us 17"ers?

 

Here they are, although I think you need to become a serial poster on the site to get them:
[REPAIR] Clevo Service Manuals

If you ask Prema nicely, she might post them here for you

 

??? She?? Fo shizzle manizzle??

 

Hi.

I found a lot of service manuals on Prema's website:

https://biosmods.wordpress.com/service-manuals/

Also there is a BIOS MOD for P670SE/SG and many other usefull stuff

 

Anyone running windows7 and having problems coming out of sleep mode? Mine takes anywhere between 30 secs up to 5 minutes to come out of sleep mode it just sits at the spinning windows symbol. I've checked all hotfixes and bios settings I don't know what else might cause this. I've gone through the sleep troubleshooting guide someone posted here.

 

Bravo! Thank you (and Prema)

 

No, not she.

 

Oh my goodness! The only Premas I've ever encountered in real life have been female. Apparently I need to get out more. Apologies to all. Hoping I didn't give anyone a stroke.

 

Prema is just an online name

 

Hi!

I'm planning on getting a new laptop soon, upgrading from my Asus G50VT-X1.

I was originally looking at the NP7378, but then I noticed the N8670 which I like because of its newer GPU, M.2, but mostly because it was advertised as being lighter.

I don't mind a little extra bulk, I mean a 17.3" laptop is desktop replacement territory, but it is nice to save some pounds if you can.


Unfortunately, Sager's website does not list the drivers for the 8670. It has a product page for it, but there are no links to the drivers.

Is it just too new? Even so, the drivers should be ready day one no?

This is really a bummer; who will buy it if you don't have the drivers?


A couple more questions; this thread also acts as tho the 8670 doesn't exist. Curious; are not the 8671/8672 related to the 8670? Or is there something I'm missing and I'm in the wrong section?

Also, I've found elsewhere on the Internet that "Thin and Light" means "not accessible for end user maintenance." Is that true?

I'd like to get a clarification on that; is the 8670 series accessible by end users? Doesn't quite appear to be based on the image:



Vs. the NP7378:






Many thanks,

LC

 

When purchasing you'll likely be getting a drivers disk. Sager always ships with them. For the most part though should share identical drivers with the 8651 if you absolutely need to download them. Check with your reseller directly if needing something specifically. You won't be left without drivers, might just take a bit for Sager to get them up on their support site.

The model is still fairly accessible but no, it won't be quite as spacious as the thicker models which means yes it'll be a bit tighter to do things within. Still by far easier than most laptops out there, especially those with similar form factors. Have to give up something to gain the smaller dimensions of the machine.

 

Thanks for the response!

I sort of figured about the driver cd but, you know what they say about downloading the drivers instead.

But ya, drivers should be pretty stable so probably not an issue. I certainly never updated the drivers on my current laptop.

That's good to hear; the primary concern is that it IS accessible at all.


Thanks,


LC

 

Hey all, I've been researching for a laptop for a while and I just thought of asking this question right now.

Anyone have a picture of either of these laptops (the Clevo 670 series) next to another laptop? Either a thicker one (like an Alienware or Asus) or next to a thinner one (like MSI GS series or a Blade Pro)? I would just like to have a frame a reference to see how thin this laptop is compared to something I've seen or can go see at my local Fry's or Best Buy store to review. I could always buy and return something, but I would like to customize the laptop.

Any help would be appreciated. Most pictures on the web only show the laptop by itself.

 

I've been seriously looking for a new laptop to replace my 6yr old XPS M1530 since before black friday. I stumbled across the Sager NP8671 about a week ago and i believe the search is over. For the price, specs, and build quality, there's no other laptop out there that can touch it. The only thing that i'm slightly hung up on is the screen not being IPS. But, i've never used an IPS screen for any extended period of time and the TN panel on the 8671 is supposedly one of the better ones. So i doubt that it will even bother me.

I know it may not be a big deal to some but, for me, it's hard to drop $1324 on a laptop (I did drop around $1000 on my XPS 6yrs ago which included 3yrs accidental warranty. It was a killer deal at the time). Especially since i tend to always wait for a good deal but i doubt there will be any major deals on any 900M series laptops anytime soon. At least not within the next 6 months.

I apologize that this doesn't bring much to the thread. I guess i'm still trying to get over the price and convince myself to pull the trigger!

 

The market has changed a little since then it's true. Per $ the level of performance is hard to touch.

 

I'm also looking to replace my aging laptop with something more up to date. Looking at the laptops currently out there the Clevo P670SE/SG seems like a great value. The thing that worries me is the lack of chat activity about this laptop. There isn't very many reviews out there (I could only find one) and this thread doesn't have nearly as much activity as the other threads. I really want to purchase this laptop but my previous concern is causing me think twice about this purchase. I'm torn between the P670SE and SG... more towards the SG at this point as I'm interested in the 980m.

It really does seem like the cost/performance is amazing. So what's the deal with the lack of buzz about this laptop? I feel like people should be all over this thing.

 

I'd speculate and say that it may be due to the lack of screen options. I haven't kept up with much with hardware these last few years but it seems like everyone is hung up on IPS screens, gaming or not. There seems to be a bit of interest and demand for 4k screens as well. I've read through this entire thread and (someone can correct me if i'm wrong) it's highly probable that this particular model won't be compatible with any IPS screens even in the future.

That being said, it's still a great package for the price and like i said previously, i don't think that i will miss IPS since i've never used one for long periods of time anyway. I'm fairly certain i'll be purchasing this one over the weekend. I just want to do at least a few more hours of research to be completely sure.

 

17" laptops aren't nearly as popular as 15" ones. Also, as mentioned, the lack of screen options is a bummer. Most people looking at a Clevo are, I imagine, interested in customizing the machine to their liking. With only one screen option, there isn't much room to customize.

 

The 15" version is a lot more popular. Basically same config more or less just larger screen.

 

Hi guys, I just did a review of this model, see sig.

It's way more slim than older version but still quite heavy. I'm using it as a desktop replacement so I want the larger screen. I'm 100% happy with the purchase. As was previously stated most people prefer 15" which I understand. With my setup I'm often using an external keyboard so the screen is further away from me. 15" would never work for me. Regardless of 15" or 17" Sager really hit it out of the ballpark with the 86xx. The exterior design looks rad and the keyboard / touchpad feel is fantastic as well. You are still saving hundreds vs the competition... I know I sound like a hipster but its true

EDIT: And I know "quite heavy" is a very subjective term. But I can tell you it feels "as heavy" as my NP8170. I don't have a postage scale handy lol. I don't exactly see this as a bad thing, because I've come to equate a heavy chassis with more durability. I can tell you for sure you're not going to be using this in your lap nor should you because of the bottom vents. The slim design is a boon if you need it to fit in suitcase or something, but at that point you probably just want the NP8651.

The only other thing I can think of is that more space = better cooling, which might give the 17" model a slight edge in that respect. Others can confirm or deny this as I am not sure.

 

I will be very interested to see your temps in gaming/stress test to see if the 17" model cools a little better than the 15". I know there's not too much difference in size but I could live with a TN screen if there was slightly better cooling.

 

I will post some temps and benchmarks when I receive my NP8671. I'm hoping the 17" cools slightly better than the 15" also.

 

I finally made a decision and purchased the NP8671 from XoticPC last night.

Now comes the worst part, the wait...

I also need to decide if i will install Windows 7 or 8. Does Sager/Clevo include drivers for Win7 or have them on their site? I know i checked a few days ago and was unable to find win7 drivers on Sagers site.

 

Grats on your purchase. I purchased mine a little over an hour ago too. I plan to put windows 7 on it. I'll let you know how it goes.

 

Congrats on the order! Sager was sending both 7 and 8 drivers. There really is no reason not to go with 8. Some people don't like the metro interface of 8 but you can pick to have it boot strait to a regular desktop instead. Windows 8 is also faster then 7 and less of a resource hog.

 

1. Clevo did, Sager just slaps a sticker on.
2. I am, it's pretty darn good on my lap too.

You see, the trick is that the 17" 980m version (and the 15.6" 980m as well) have a thicker layer of air behind the bottom plate because it's raised from the fans. This results in the fans not only having to draw air in through the vents. The fans actually draw in system air from the whole laptop that comes in from all nooks and crannies, cooling everything along its path. It really is quite clever. So blocking vents is restricting cooling a bit and as such inadvisable for long gaming sessions (more for your sperm than anything else really), but it doesn't block it completely.

5 hour BF4 sessions on your lap are a little tricky anyway and uncomfortable in other ways than just heat.

I stayed away from anything '8' related for a long time. Now, as a hardcore '7' lover I totally switched to '8', I'm loving it and the lightning fast startup and fingerprint login. I will never look back.

Goodbye old friend, rest in 7 pieces.

 

My 980m barely every makes it over 65 degrees, it's a maniac. My CPU can hit 95 though, that might need a repaste.

The cooling is fine because on the 980m version the bottom plate is raised a bit so it cools with internal air too, not just vent air.

 

Sager and Clevo are used interchangeably. You're correcting me for something that everyone else already knows. In terms of blocking vents, I'd like to see what that does in the long term. Why you would not just use a notebook cooler and put that in your lap is beyond me. But if you want to needlessly stress your hardware go for it. Please no one think that's a good idea.

 

If what you say is not correct, but others said it wrong before as well, does that mean that everyone loses the right to correct that mistake ever again because they didn't catch it the first time? Or does a certain amount of people doing the same thing wrong automatically make that right?
In that respect, what if we all drive through red traffic lights, or we all stop paying our taxes?

Saying Sager 'hit it out of the ballpark' is like saying that 'this laptop series was very well designed by Sager'. It wasn't, not by Sager and I'm just pointing that out in case you forgot or didn't know or whatever really.

A notebook is a smaller formfactor than this laptop, hence the word 'notebook'. This laptop works perfectly well on the thing it's named after, the lap.
Obviously one shouldn't do heavy gaming sessions on your lap for too long, but it's certainly able to be used on your lap with some vents blocked.
Clevo designed that quite well. Clevo :wub:

ok, {female dog} mode off again

 

Did you ever get your sleep mode sorted out? If not, here are a couple more things you could try:

System restore back to the last time computer behaved (if ever).
Go back to a previous or factory image.
Do you have tech support with your purchase? Visiting the MS boards?

Out of curiosity, why are you using Windows 7? If you are only using it because you owned a license already and didn't want to buy another OS, you may want to try Windows 10 Consumer Preview.
It was released on Friday and is now free for download here: January build now available to the Windows Insider Program .
It seems to have features that appeal to gamers: Microsoft’s Windows 10: Free upgrades, Xbox streaming, OS-level video capture | ExtremeTech
The official version launching later this year will be free as an upgrade for 7 and 8 users for a year after launch. Free=always my favorite price when trying to get stuff.
If you go this route remember to take an image of your system before you start!

 

That is an amazing GPU temp. I'm not very happy with those CPU temps though. I would like to keep my CPU under 80 if possible. I hope that just needs a re-paste!

 

I personally Re-pasted my CPU with Gelid extreme, and I'm still hitting Temps in the 90s, even with an undervolt.

GPU temps are fine though.

 

Are you using max fans? You should be doing that when gaming.. CPU's are a nightmare to cool.. My 970M barely breaks 60C in BF4 but the damm CPU can reach 85-90C...

 

Hi AmyM thanks for the info! I might try that!

 

Hey Guys, I am going to order this laptop tomorrow and need to know something really quick. So I have been very confused about the hard drives. On one of the sites that I am looking at ordering the NP8672 from says that you cannot put anything into the second hard drive bay unless you put a solid state into the first one. (This is the site: https://www.powernotebooks.com/configure.php?special=1872 ) I want to keep the 1TB spindle drive, but then also get a 128 SSD for the OS. Can I not do this? Also, I really do not understand the M.2 slots in general... I see that this has 2 M.2 slots in it, and google searches of M.2 slots brings up a ton of different ssd's with various connections. I have a 512 GB hard drive, but I think that it's an mSATA hard drive. I will attach a picture. Will this hard drive fit into any of the slots?

SSD Model: MZMTD512HAGL
Thank you soo much for any help!

 

What up peeps!
Got this wonderfull device, happy so far.
However have the issue and asking maybe someone already faced something like I do.
During gaming fps rates keep randomly drop several times a minute without any reason.
Drivers are up to date, laptop is not clogged with dust (had no time obviously to get any =)). No overheating occurs.
The issue occurs in different games I tried (FarCry 4, World of Tanks, etc).
Tried to change Windows- Win7 and 8 has no difference on the issue however...
I checked forums here and found out that guys who have p650sg have the same problem, but noone from 670sg owners reported of something like that. The solution for p650sg was upgrading BIOS, but unfortunately no new BIOS available for p670sg.

Anyone faced something like I did? Please help guys.
Thanks

 

mSATA SSD won't work in M2 slot.. You need a M2 ssd..

Check Premamod.com for latest BIOS updates.. be careful when flashing as your branding etc may change..

 

You branding will change, the splash screen will go to the prema logo.

 

Hi.
Mine P670SG had the same issue which make BF4 and other games unplayable. I updated the BIOS using Prema mod but if you don't want to do it (may void warranty as unofficial release I think) try ThrottleStop. I was using this little program before Prema's mod. Just set multiplier to max (mine is 36 or lower it's up to you) and disable EIST (this is the main reason why FPS goes down&up). After that CPU will run at constant speed which make it a bit hotter, but my BF4 stays dead on 60FPS. Hope that will help.

 

So i took off of work today and had UPS hold my package at the local hub. Got home a bit ago and while i'm waiting for win8.1 to copy to my flash drive (i know, this should've been ready to go!) i was wondering what this little bag of what seems to be some kind of pads is for? There's a rectangular purple one that looks like a thermal pad, one black one with yellow backing and a small rectangular one which looks like some type of cusion.

I can post a pic later, i figured someone would know what i'm talking about...

 

Congrats on getting the computer! The purple one is a thermal pad for the m.2 drives. Not sure what the black one and small rectangular one are. Post pics when you can.

 

Is there any advantage to the 8672 over the 8652? It seems the larger display is the only one, and that is partially ofset by the added weight. Also the 8652 appears to have an IPS display, and the 8672 has a TN one, is that correct?

Thanks