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The stock bios should still accept 1866mhz so long as it's the main profile and not based off of XMP.

 

I think @Oxford_Guy who has the P650SE model runs 2133MHz RAM without Prema BIOS etc... Stock BIOS supports it... main problem is whether your CPU's memory controller can run at those speeds... 1866MHz is almost guarantee to work

 

Has anyone else been having random BSODs when in-game (Clevo P670SG) ? It's been happening to me since I got it and it's driving me nuts.
The only games I've been playing are TF2 and Far Cry 4 and it can happen at any time in both, I checked temperatures and they don't seem to be too hot .
I tried formatting and reinstalling all the latest drivers.

It never ever BSODs outside of a game.
When it BSODs it says SynTP.sys is the problem but really it isn't, if I uninstall the Touchpad driver it just blames something else.

Any suggestions?

(I am currently on stock BIOS 1.03.05 EC 1.03.04 I guess I will try updating to stock BIOS 1.03.07)

 

It will reduce native 2133Mhz RAM and run it @ 1866Mhz afaik...

@ALL P6 user:

Please help me to update your Mods!
Dump your vBIOS with GPU-Z and PM me if the version is different from:

GTX965M: 84.04.2B.00.A0

GTX970M: 84.04.1F.00.BD

GTX980M: 84.04.1F.00.E1

 

Well ordered the p670sg from XoticPC, but I'll have to wait till Tuesday since they're out of stock right now, tomorrow I'll be ordering 2 CrucialM2 ssd's and a other 8Gb ram stick to go with it.

 

Congrats on the order, the extra time is a bummer, but at least its not too far out.

 

Yeah is OK, I don't mind wait a little bit.

 

It's a very popular model not surprisingly

 

Hello.
Question regarding power usage/supply of 8672
I found on other forums/threads that other systems with 980m draw around 230W. For example heres a video
And one more

You can clearly see the decrease in FPS when he switches to 180W from 240W.
The power adapter, which comes with sager 8672 is 180W only, which, people say, can limit performance of the laptop and benchmarks shows the case is real.
So I was wondering if any of the 8672 owners could post some comments, is Sager power demand is like Alienware, maybe do a benchmark with original 180W power adapter and 240W one.

 

Well it looks like my first upgrade when it arrives will be a Dell 240w power adapter

 

Dont be too hasty. I looked around in other sager threads, and people there tested different power adapters and the performance difference was minimal to non existent.
On the other hand, other people say that laptops with 980m must have at least 240W, other manufacturers like ASUS ship 230W power brick fpr 980m laptops.
So is the performance drop is exclusively Alienware's problem, or not? Maybe it depends on Sager models as well.
I guess it would be great if someone with 8672 model could test this.

 

Yeah, please someone with a 8672 and a 230/240w adapter can test this and solve the mystery

 

Well after over 3 years of service the NP8150 is getting replaced by a P670SG after I had to bake the 6990m twice. I dunno how I will like the 17" screen but I wanted to try it compared to the 15" I have right now.

 

Does any one else have any thermal throttling playing GTA V on this laptop? the 980m version.

Please help here is all the information you need.
https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/foru...-AUTO-V-and-DEFIANCE-17-3-980M-I7-4720HQ-16GB

 

You updated the bios / ec firmware ?

 

it's running the one it came with from pc specialist. (a UK reseller)

 

Update the EC to 1.03.04
That fixed it for me.

Has anyone else been having random BSODs at all when ingame?
Still happening here and driving me nuts.

 

What games is it happening in?

 

I don't know how to update the EC also will that effect my warranty with PC Specialist, Also will it change the boot logo from the PC Specialist one? Is that EC update official?

 

Contacted PCS they wanted me to send it back to them which could take up to 2 weeks, so i stated i work in IT my self and that i was confident flashing bios's etc so will try the updated bios then see what happens.

I have just read this whole thread and see the following key bits of information so maybe this will solve it... i will flash my bios after work today.

and another

and another one

 

All I have played since getting it is Team Fortress 2 and Far Cry 4, it happens in both.
You could play 3 hours solid without a BSOD, or you could play for just 1 hour and BSOD, random.

As said before, it says SynTP.sys causes it but if I uninstall the touchpad driver it blames something else.

Temps seem fine, already tried reformatting.

It never BSODs outside of a game.

 

https://biosmods.wordpress.com/

That is prema mod website, he has a video tutorial on how to update the bios and ec, same procedure just use the stock bios & ec instead of the mod one ( you can find it right there in the menu under important> stock (v)Bios & EC)

 

The file is the one named P6xxSG BIOS 307 EC 304

 

hi i already got the one from PCS website it seems lower bios version but higher EC version, seems to have fixed my issues but might still flash the prema mod as i know i can go back to PCS firmware if i need to.

 

Hey guys, which laptop cooler u guys recommend for this model?

 

I'm not using a cooler only a stand, i'm using this one, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kensington-SmartFit-Ultrabooks-Chromebooks-Notebooks/dp/B0007YB8NM not had any issues with temps since i flashed the new bios. I only bought this cuz it was cheap in a local shop but it's pretty cool and simple, and i can manage the cables with the holes in the back aswell.

 

A stand will do the job just fine, raising the back a bit will allow the cooler to work at its best.

 

Yeah mine is on the lowest setting on the stand mentioned above. still rises it enough and not too much at the same time. even fit a eSATA DVD drive underneath it still plenty of air flow.

 

Hello,

The NP8672 and NP8671 (and Asus G751JT-CH71) are the three computers I'm really considering getting. I've done a lot of reading online but I'm still hoping to get some opinions from people who already own these and just some technical advice in general that will influence my decision and customization options.

I'm looking to get a new gaming laptop that I want to last me for the next 3-5 years (playing all recent games on medium-high settings).

1) Do I want to get 16gb of Ram of is 8gb enough for the foreseeable future? I'm not sure how easy it is to upgrade later on in these laptops and I'd rather get it upfront if I'll need it later anyway.

2) Is the 980m a lot better than the 970m? The price is certainly a lot higher! I don't need the absolute best performance right now but like I said, I want this to last a long time.

3) Is 3gb VRAM enough for now and going forward? Most GPU options have 3-4 but there are quite a lot of other models with 6-8gb vram that I can also take a look at.

4)How reliable are these laptops and Sager in general? I don't have any experience with them and actually haven't ever heard of them before but googling around I read a lot of favorable opinions (I've owned an Asus rog these 3 years and it's been great but got dated). The location where I live it is very hard to get any technical support and shipping back for repairs is almost out of the question so reliability and build quality is of extreme importance to me. There seem to be a lot of laptop options all with similar prices and specs from MSI, Asus, Sager, Acer, and Alienware but I'm not sure which brand is considered to be the most reliable / best build quality / has the best cooling etc.

5) Are these Sager laptops upgradeable (cpu, gpu, ram, hdd)? I read that most Sager laptoprs are but that these are some kind of special models with everything soldered onto the motherboard.

I think that's all my questions for now. Thanks for any information and advice.

 

1) well 8gb is enough but in my case mine came with 1 x 8gb ram stick and you'll want 2 sticks so the memory run on dual channel mode, so I just added another 8gb stick. But if you get 2 x 4gb sticks then is enough unless you are running a lot of tabs on your browser or heavy programs.

2)yeah 980m > 970m if u want to future proof a little you'll want to go with the biggest of the 2, only thing better than this is a SLI set up like 970m SLI but they tend to run hotter, also for 1080p a 980m should be enough to play games on High and up for a few years.

3) @ 1080p 4gb vram is enough.

4) CPU and GPU are not upgradable in this models, that's why they are thin, if u want upgradable models you'll have to forget about the thin and light
HDD, ram, ssd's, wi fi card are upgradable

 

Ivan,

Thanks for the response. (Would love to hear any other opinions from others)

Do you think it's worth it getting an upgradeable model? I'm not sure how realistic or likely it is that I'll need / want to upgrade it before the whole thing should be replaced. I heard that even though it's upgradeable (cpu, gpu) it's very hard to find compatible upgrade parts because the requirements (pins, size etc) are very specific. Size and thickness is not a big concern.

I imagine that an upgradable model is a lot more maintenance-friendly though because if something goes wrong you can theoretically swap the part out with an identical one (as opposed to if it is soldered down).

 

For me an upgradeable option was never considered because while upgrades might be physically possible in the slot there was always bios issues for my np8150 upgrading to a newer card. I opted to get the strongest GPU I could at this time in a smaller package. I also opted for the 3 year warranty so if anything does fail I am covered.

 

On another subject my 670SG came stock with a 19.5v adapter contrary to what was reported by others that it comes with a 19.0v adapter, still it is a 180w and gets hot while gaming

 

Hi , i recently bought this laptop - its still on the way - but after doing some research the 180w power supply worries me. While i haven't really found threads which states the clevo laptops have this issue i have found that that other companies do - where the power supply is throttling the computer and not letting it perform optimally, like alienware and they even offer a 240w power supply option. the benchmarks I have seen also show that the laptop is pushing the 180 w adaptor pretty much to its limit ( and these are on the 15 inch version of this i.e the clevo p650). It is also interesting to note that the benchmarks show the msi dominator pro outperforming this laptop in most games getting from 5 -15 extra fps which is a lot ! The msi laptop has the same specs , the only difference being it comes with a 240w power adopter. this is also an example all be it with the alienware. Here is another source showing that a laptop with 980m pulls way more than 180w http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...nce-Testing-Mobile-Gaming-its-Best/Gaming-Per. Could someone please provide any info/enlightenment on the issue ?


edit : ok so i looked at earlier posts and it seems other people have the same concerns so sorry about repeating the question. It would be nice if someone with this laptop and a 240 compatible adopter could post some benchmarks comparing it to the 180w adaptor.

 

It is a Alienware only issue, and they fixed it with a bios update.
But still 180w is about the minimum for this configuration leaving you almost no headroom for overclocking. I'm interested to know if the 240w adapter runs as hot as this one.

 

Naturally a higher rated brick will run cooler due to its larger size and running at a lower output as a %.

 

The Clevo 180W adapter provides more then 180W unlike the Alienware one hence Alienware with 980M and 180W adapter throttles like nothing... The Clevo 180W adapter is good enough for a slight OC on 980M but for more OC you need the Dell 240W adapter..

 

OC is not a big concern for me right now, this laptop is pretty powerful as it is, but what I really want to know is if the power adapter gets as hot as this one.

 

See my above post, though a thinner one will run a bit warmer than a larger one.

 

Yeah saw it after I posted, my bad

 

Can anyone tell me what the "current limit throttle" is in Intel XTU?

 

I did discover my laptop was delivered with a battery at 5% wear. I have no idea how much wear batteries should have on delivery but I was expecting 0%.

 

That is pretty normal. All the video reviews I've done with brand new computers usually have 3-5% wear.

 

International shipping takes 5%

 

It's a limit on how many amps the CPU can draw.

 

Cause my CPU has a lot of throttle cause of it

 

Yes it's one of the limits intel imposes on the chip, you can effectively overclock it by removing the limit and run it out of spec.

 

I don't want to over clock it just tweak it so I can reduce or eliminate the throttle

 

The throttle is part of the spec, if you raise any of the limits making it throttle you are overclocking it past spec.

 

I have noticed when I operate on the battery or outlet and I change the PCIE link state in the advanced power options to maximum battery life(for either) I get occasional power offs. The computer just shuts down like someone pressed the power button but it doesn't even fully complete the shut down. This issue goes away when I turn off that power saving feature, however, the also means I am using the GTX980m to look at my desktop which is complete and utter overkill.