Are you saying my car outlet max 180W wont cut it?
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
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Hello everyone, been following this thread for a while now. I ordered mine (SAGER NP8358F2-S) from xotic a few weeks ago and Im expecting it to arrive next week (can't wait! - I live in Colombia - South America).
I have a question for the owners that have been playing with their laptops for a while now... is the lack of gsync on the 15 inch version very noticeable? do you have any regrets on not buying the 17 inch version? Any annoying tearing / stuttering? I suppose you can connect to a gsync enabled screen if need be right?
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A high refresh rate and strong GPU certainly helps counteract the G-Sync.
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Is the screen ips?
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
No because it's not an LG screen, it's not TN though.
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Thanks very much for help. Is the viewing angle good as ips? And is the viewing angle 178 degree
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I want to get a 2080 super I’m hoping they have something similar to what xmg currently has on there website. Hoping xotic gets something like that soon
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I ordered a 2080 super for my main machine. Trying to keep it on par w my laptop now. I should find out if it works out this week.
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What are the recommended cooling strategies for this model?
Any accessories recommended in this matter?
Mine is coming, still a month of wait. Counting day by day.
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Which cooler do you recommend for this laptop?
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Undervolting is almost a necessity to help tame the temps. I'm running -100mv. I used Intel xtu to do it. It's fairly simple to do.
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Lopezco curious where you order your laptop cause not sure best play to order from
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You want lower air resistance for the fans.Lopezco likes this. -
Clevo and Sager did a nice job. CPU temps will be in the 80s C under load. GPU hangs in the 70s C. The the current limiters and thermal limiters are set just under peak temps.
The keyboard stays relatively cool on the WSAD side for you hand while gaming. I do use a microfiber cloth for a palm rest but I have naturally sweaty hands and this is a finger printer magnet. The upper part of the keyboard TY56 keys get toasty. You won't leave your fingers there for long!
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Hi! I bought this laptop from Sager. Would GPU overclocking (or undervolting, get those mixed up) work for me too? What steps can I take to get started with it? I've seen lots of videos on youtube and am not sure which one to follow (not sure what people mean in the thread when they stuff like they undervolted core and cache).
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Undervolting using the clock curve could see nice gains while keeping power under control.
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BTW people i decided to return the laptop for a refund. It's been 7 business days with the laptop in their possession and still no refund. NEVER BUYING SAGER EVER AGAIN!
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Intel xtu
Throttle stop
Etc
Once u decide then youtube on how to use it to undervolt your chip. Undervolting really can't hurt you. If you go too far the machine will shut off and reboot back to normal. Obviously don't be running backups or anything while doing it. Once you decide on a program post up and usually someone will help u if u run I to trouble.
I would avoid the latest Nvidia drivers from may. It's been real bad and has caused overheating issues on laptop gpus. I saw a 50% decrease in fps in games.
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Yea I can understand what you are saying about the fans. I tend to have faith in these companies like exotic hid and gentech.
they don’t want to give people crap or issues they want to be the best and sell more and with online reviews and forums like these they all know that a google search will show a lot of problems but that doesn’t mean that it can’t take a little time to get a refund. I mean even Nike takes 5-10 buisness days to refund shoes a laptop takes. A little more I’m guessing -
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alll I’m saying is give them a chance I’m sure they will take care of you I understand the frustration though I’d be pissed too. I’m sure they will refund you. These are good companies every once in a while there may be a bad review but if u check overall ratings for them on reseller rating and on these boards they are solid companies with few complaints. -
So i got refunded $1,949 out of my $2,079 total for a brand new laptop ... What a total ****ing joke.
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My last update here. Sager let me know they dont refund their shipping cost from purchase which in my case was $80 and also that my laptop had a "scratch" on bottom cover for which they charge $50.
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I figured I'd share a screenshot of the fire strike runs between my home machine and this laptop. The first two were my home machine going from a 1080gtx to a 2080 super.
All the generic GPU w a 10875 CPU is this laptop under various setting tweaks.
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The screenshot size is a little small.
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Yeah it doesn't like my phone's screen for some reason .
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I upload to imgur for hosting.
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I'm extremely too lazy for that. I usually convert it to a small size on the computer but I was being quick and dirty that day and just used the phone. Must be the phones resolution when it cuts it down looks horrendous.
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Yeah it does help to be able to read the text
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Well, mine is officially dead. Should have known given it bsoded on first startup multiple times. Two clevo laptops in a row from HID that were bad. Given this things high temps, loud fans and my dead one I don't recommend this thing to anyone.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Yeah BSOD not a good sign to start off with, hopefully HID get you sorted.
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I'm just managed to undervolt the 2070 Super on mine. I"m pretty happy with the results.
On Turbo Mode with Max Fans
I managed a Firestrike score of 19344
GPU Temps 68C Max Power Usage of 94W.
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Tonight I spent a lot of time learning how to use MSI Afterburner and tuning a GPU.
Originally, I wanted to undervolt the GPU to lower temps, but the only way you can do it is by giving up having a variable boost clock. I finally figured out how to make a custom boost voltage/clock curve and tuned my card.
Now I get the full 115W power with a much higher gpu boost clock and much lower temps.
Here's my final run in 3dMark.
Keep in mind this was done in Performance mode with a -100 millivolt on CPU and Max Fans
Take a look at the final CPU and GPU temps on the 3rd graph on the right.Last edited: Jun 25, 2020 -
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Sagers bios is locked for overclocking except for the memory profile. HIDs was unlocked. I've undervolted and tune the GPU now by software.
I've had 6 Sagers so far. They're a little rough around the edges but can be tuned nicely. You can't beat the prices.
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I bought one from xotic pc a while back and it ran pretty well still going to this day. How do you buy direct from sager and do they offer extended warranty and us support in case of an issue that requires you send it out? I see you were able to overclock gpu with afterburner can cut under volt the cpu or is cpu basically off limits in this version.
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