*** Official Sager NP8170/Clevo P170HM Owners Lounge ***

He says "He" idles.. not the laptop.

Get the joke?

 

Haha looks like this is gonna be a funny day everyone making bad jokes

 

oh man, you'se guys kill me!!!! I, I, I think I'm running a fever, I don't feel very good Ralph!

 

Fever is not the right technical term you are overheating

 

lol nice good jokes

malibal- any proof that any of the user of 8170 user here able to detect all 4 hdd use able via the usb 3.0??

in my old sager 8690, i could you the express card slot and use the external esata adaptor to have 8 hdd detected. how i miss the express card slot

 

nyuck, nyuck, nyuck. my wife wants to know if we actually have anything better to do ... anyway, my room is at 72F and THE LAPTOP is idling at 115F when in Firefox 7. Do any of you know why the new Firefox is making the GPU run a bit hotter than before. it used to not make any difference at all.

 

I think I'm much more concerned that he says his temp is 24C at rest - holy crap isn't that like hypothermic? (wah wah~)

 

My np8170 is on its way, I ordered from Donald S./ Powernotebooks.com. I ordered on 09/26 and it already shipped 09/27. It will be waiting for me at home. Thanks Donald.

 

It was our pleasure to serve you Raulm82...

Actually, your ship date was the 29th...but it will be waiting for you when you get home. Stay safe while on the road

 

I just pulled the trigger on an 8170 through xoticPC to replace the machine in my sig. The ol girl is about dead so it was time to upgrade. Really am going to miss the heat this thing puts out, heats up my bedroom to the perfect temp.

 

I just learned why Firefox 7 is heating up my laptop. There is an option to use the hardware acceleration, if available. I unchecked that box and now it runs much cooler! I have not noticed any speed difference in Firefox. I used this for reference:

http://www.webkit.org/perf/sunspider/sunspider.html

 

Things move along fast in this forum.... but some of you might still remember the display issue that I was having with my laptop a few weeks back. After going back and fourth with sager they finally said the issue was LCD banding which (they say) cannot be fixed unless I upgrade to a higher color gamut LCD.

My question is, can this really make that big of a difference? Is it worth upgrading or is the display faulty and should I push for a free replacement? As it is this banding problem bugs the hell out of me and sagers unwillingness to help isn't making things better, but if I have to live with it I guess I will...

Still I don't see how a few-month-old laptop can be sold with such a inferior screen and no one notices!

 

hei as you said, it is free, so why not

for me, most of the time my 8170 is using external screen.

it is hard to go back to stock sreen after you are being pampered with 2560x1600 matte ips lcd screen with 117% gamut screen

 

hehe i dont see a reason to use a external screen for a laptop computer, that pretty much just breaks the benifits of having it transportable and its possible to get a pretty good panel for it but okay if you really use the resolution 2560x1600, then i might understand but a 100%+ gamut is only truly usefull for photographers and people doing photo and video work! for gaming and everyday use its not needed

for ajbutch: I would suggest that you push for a replacement panel, actually the stock Hannstar panel is a very good quality panel! if it works it wouldnt be a significant cost for Sager to give you one that works well!
The fact is that you have a panel that doesnt work 100% like it should out of the box, and that is what you have paid for... so the "law" is on your side here... cause there is a thing called warranty!

 

@delpan - i do photography, so yeah it really benefits me a lot

 

Delpan...

Here is how I use 2 external monitors plus my laptop screen. When I need to hit the road I just grab my laptop and off I go, but in the office using multiple monitors is way more productive.

This is an old picture, can anyone identify the laptop?

 

Hehe pretty big workstation but yeah i can see that it will ease up a lot of work issues... having multible monitors!

 

Donald
It looks a bit like this , It must me an older model Sager being your's, , I am not good with Sagers
Sager 9750 with AMD Athlon 64 X2 Review (pics, specs)

Probably quite old now, what was the Blue button on the front for btw

 

Too new, and not the correct ODM. I hate to admit, but I don't remember what the blue button did right now, but it may come to me.

Hint: You can't see the magnesium alloy LCD Cover

 

@donald - how i wish i coudl do the same for my 8170. the lack of the express card only allow me to use either the dvi port or the hdmi port only

btw, is it possible to multiple use the dvi and the hdmi port at the same time??

that way i could have 2 screen side by side on at the same time, 3 if you included the laptop screen too.

 

Actually , I use dual screens and am spoiled by it. my alptop is always portable, but when at home, its dual all the way.

 

Is it an old prostar?

 

Pro-star would still be a Clevo shell.

It is one of our old PowerPro models, so it is a different ODM.

 

Wow Alex, that model takes me back. Boy it has been a long time since AMD has made a competing CPU...
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Hopefully they will keep up in the GPU arena...

nVidia monopoly shoudn't really happen.. It might be the end of the world!

 

We sell the ViBook SE USB to DVI adapter which is what I currently use.

 

I give up, need some help here!

I know that they are 1866Mhz, but what are the proper time tables of this RAM for the different Mhz?
AIDA64, CPU-Z,SISOFT SANDRA and Thaiphoon Burner all report different values:

 

Hi is there anyways to fix the fan from constantly going hight to low like ever 5 sec using fn + 1 ?? thx

 

Please check with your reseller to make sure you have the latest bios-EC on your system. The latest EC does address the fans, as to when they go on and such.
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Awesome cause I have the 6970m with silver 5 but as the fans don't kick in till it's really hot im getting a bit worried and the only way for now is to use the fn + 1 option. I brought it through a bto in Japan so not quite sure if they would have a bios for it other than the original.... However I do know that it uses the clevo bios. Can you point me to the right direction??

 

^^^^ im interested to know that too, please do guid into the direct direction. my fan does the same like he said. using the fn+1 do have sometimes from high to low, like some kind refreshing.

 

@genocidew, when you play games does your fan sound like it's only on like 50% for the majority of the time??

 

AIDA64, CPu-Z, Sandra are wrong! There are no such DDR3 SDRAM frequencies like 851MHz, 765MHz, etc. These are not JEDEC frequencies, just a blsht thing or something like that.

 

If you receive a new item that is unsatisfactory/faulty out of the box, there should be absolutely no question in your mind that the company is responsible for this and should replace the part at no charge. They should do the same as well during the entire warranty period.

However, depending on the warranty, you may be responsible for the charges to ship the defective machine back to the manufacturer, in this case Sager. The stock Hannistar (came with mine) is just fine btw.

 

What is the new BIOS that fixed the cycling fan issue (on idle)? Unfortunately I've been gone from this thread for too long!

 

If you receive a new item that is unsatisfactory/faulty out of the box, there should be absolutely no question in your mind that the company is responsible for this problem and should replace the part at no charge. They should do the same as well during the entire warranty period. As I've said before, a company is not supposed to sell an item or a combination/configuration of items that cannot work together correctly. They are supposed to test all the configurations they offer PRIOR to sale to ensure it all works together correctly.

However, depending on the warranty, you may be responsible for the charges to ship the defective machine back to the manufacturer, in this case Sager. TO THAT, my expectation IN THIS CASE would be that they pay ALL the shipping, since a company that puts together computer elements is expected to know what they are doing - certainly one of Sager/Clevo's reputation should. Putting components together that don't work should be considered a separate issue and different from receiving a product with components that go bad when they arrive with the end user (DOA). Putting together componens that can't function correctly shows that they did not perform due diligence in testing each combination they proposed to retail. If they had, they would have seen the banding produced with this combination of screen and other components. Nobody would buy a computer in person with banding on the screen! You as a customer are expecting the retailer to provide you with a quality product, to have your best interests in mind, and therefore to test your product prior to sending it out to you.

Having said all of this, can you remind me which screen and configuration you got? Maybe you could place it in your siggy for future reference?

 

If you have a Sager NP8170, your reseller can get to you this latest bios package. How long have you had your machine?

If more than 2 months for sure you need this...
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I have all the latest bios package (I think) and when I use the FN + 1 key the fans are at 100% but every few seconds the fan dips in speed, but only for a split second. Why is that? Anybody else have that problem? It would be nice if the fans stayed at 100% and didn't lose any rpm's. It's almost like a surge. It's annoying ;(

 

I've had this machine since April/May. Glad to know I can contact my reseller! I'll call xoticpc tomorrow.

Thanks!

 

That split second is the EC doing its job, which is basically it checks to see if it needs to do any fan speed changes, it detects that it does, and then goes "ohh i'm in override mode" and keeps them spun up. Yea its annoying but thats the way its programmed if they changed how it was done then the fan wouldn't react quite as fast to temp changes.

 

Ok thanks for that info
I feel much better now lol

 

got another heat question, my fan doesnt seem to kick in as much till it reaches 90s what can i do to adjust this??　thanks

 

This too may be corrected with the latest bios and EC update. How long have you had your machine and do you know if you have the latest update?

If not your reseller can help.
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I have had mine sine about 03/2011. I have not seen any BIOS updates on the Sager site or for that matter Malibal. Where, if any, is the link for BIOS updates?

 

If yours is from March 2011, an update would be good. These updates should be given out by your reseller, or they may tell you to go to the Clevo bios thread here on the forum.

They would have your serial number and what you would need in your case. Sager for one does not like to post these for a public download.

In some cases they do so, for example the 7280, 7282 models.
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Thank you sir.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/416916-clevo-bios-thread.html

Mr. Mysterious

 

I got my laptop only a two days ago but when I checked the bios it is only 1.01.02 with 1.00.03 ec

 

Mr. Mysterious:

"If pro is opposite of con, what is the opposite of progress?"

HAH! it would be CONgress!!

 

I guess I will weigh in on the BIOS issue:

Would our resellers kindly post the recommended BIOS revision number (for your models). I cannot understand the reason that we cannot see clearly on this forum what is recommended at this time.

I checked the Clevo BIOS updater thread on this board, and the terse notes accompanying each item did not give me a warm fuzzy, (ie. "However, this EC/KBC suffers from some serious bugs so it is not recommended to install.") YIKES!

Given that doing this wrong could "brick" the machine, I want to tread real lightly on this turf.