Official Sager NP8130/Clevo P151HM1 Owners Lounge

i'm really interested in how the matte screen stacks up against the glossy counterpart....and also the battery life as well

 

hi i am new to here

i was looking for a gaming laptop an came across NP8130 and NP5160. i am not a serious gamer just want a laptop to play game comfortably with no problem. i want to know there performance and battery life as i heard that 8130 only 2-3hour while 5160 have 4-5hour. oh and there cooling system is also not the same so can you all rate this two laptop. thank.

 

In one of the other threads, Paladin confirmed that the 4-5 hour battery life for the 5160/5170 is when running on the Integrated Graphics Chip...and that too on a lowered brightness setting.

Which means we do not know the exact numbers for the laptop running on the Discrete 540M...I'm sure someone will update that when they get hands on the laptop itself.

And Im in the same boat as you on the difference in cooling systems...would like to be enlightened.

 

haha same 8130 battery is 8 cell smart Lithium-Ion battery pack 76.96Wh while 5160 battery is 6 cell smart Lithium-Ion battery pack 48.84Wh. because they have different cooling system and Graphics Processor which affect the battery life and performance is a hard choice for me to choose.

someone help me AHHHHHH

 

Just ordered!

Display 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen
Dead Pixel Warranty Standard Dead Pixel Policy
Processor - Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
Thermal Compound -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
Graphics Video Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
External Display Video Adapters No Video Adapter
Ram ~ 8,192MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)-
Exterior Finish Standard Finish
Optical Drive ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW 5x DVD-RAM 24x CD-R/RW Drive w/Softwares
Primary Hard Drive ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
Additional Hard Drive in Optical Drive Bay No Additional Hard Drive in ODD Bay - When Selecting, The Hard Drive is sent in Optical Bay Caddy that will need Bezel Replaced from Optical Drive (When in use Optical Drive Must be Removed)
External USB Optical Drive NO External USB Optical Drive
External Hard Drive (Back Up) No Back Up Hard Drive
Back Up Software No Back Up Software
Floppy Drive No Floppy Drive
Memory Card Reader Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
Bluetooth None Standard--
Wireless Network Intel® Advanced-N 6230 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module + Blueooth
Wireless Network Accessories No Network Accessory
Camera Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
TV Tuner No TV Tuner
Sound Card Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
Case No Carrying Case
Battery Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
Car Adapter No Car Adapter
Spare AC Adapter None Standard*
Port Replicator / Dock / Adapters No Dock/Hub/Adapter
Fingerprint Reader Integrated Fingerprint Reader
Mouse / Keyboard Accessories No External Keyboard or Mouse
Notebook Cooler No Notebook Cooler
Operating System ~Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's
Microsoft Office Software No Office Software
Software Bundle (Not Installed) No Software Bundle
Warranty Sager 3 Year Parts & Labor Warranty w/ Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Customer Support - Special!
Xotic Gear No Xotic PC Gear

 

6 cell smart Lithium-Ion battery pack 62.16Wh will give you about 3+ hours with the 540M and about 4.5 to 5 hours using the IGP. The standard battery is not 48.84Wh.

 

Hey xEVILDRAGONx,

As paladin44 said, apparently the NP5160 is coming with a 6-cell 62.16Wh battery from all the resellers, even though the Sager website lists the 48.84 Wh battery. The NP5160 thread talk about this here

 

if i am right 8130 and 5160 battery life is around the same. plus and minus. correct if i am wrong

btw do anyone have some photo about 8130.

 

probably wrong because the 460 vid card in the 8130 will draw more power even idle than the 540M.

 

And that's not even including the gain of having Optimus.....

 

if it is you, what laptop will u choose. either 8130 or 5160 ?

 

I myself have been going back and forth between them constantly (planning on buying one in the next month). For all the additions I want, there will be about a $200 difference in the end (the 8130 being more expensive obviously).

The thing is, that matte screen is a big plus to me. Also, on the GPU rankings list at notebookcheck has the GT 540M listed at rank #61 and the GTX 460M at rank #20. I have owned laptops with upper range and midrange GPUs and the upper range tend to last significantly longer in usefulness. Finally, the 8130 can have another 8GB of ram added to it later (for a max of 16GB) and the 5160 maxes out at 8GB.

Yes, yes I know people think it is crazy to have that much ram now, but to be fair, 3 years ago 4GB of ram was excessive and now its standard on good machines. That upgradability adds to the longevity of the 8130 when compared to the 5160.

It also seems that the cooling design is a little better on the 8130 (vents out to back) as compared to the 5160 (vents to the side, right next to ports, which has been known to kill ports in the past).

I would say it depends on what you want to use it for and how long. I like my laptops to last me a while so I will probably end up with the 8130, which should have sufficient graphics and ram to last for the next couple years in gaming and general photo editing.

Hope that helps.

 

Also, while the 5160 has Optimus and could last as long as 5-6 hours, thats using the the IGP, which means only in certain situations. With the 540M in use, its probably 3+ hours. The 8130 has a slightly larger battery and should last 2-3 hours, possibly a little more with some optimization. That's plenty of time for work or a single movie on a flight and if I am traveling longer, I would carry an air/car adaptor for either 5160 or 8130 so the battery life (past that point) isn't as big of a deal to me. Realistically, if you are going to be away from a plug for more than 3 hours or are unwilling to carry a power cable, a laptop with more mobility in mind might make more sense. I am not saying that there aren't people that the 5160 is perfect for, but if you want the laptop for gaming, and want to be able to game for at least a couple of years (and have a decent screen resolution) I would think that the 8130 would be more down your alley.

And again, that matte screen would be nice!

 

Was totally about to order this from xoticpc..
But they say "they got held up in customs so as soon as they clear we'll be able to get your computer at your door mid/late feb as long as everything goes ok"
anyone know of any other creditable sellers?

BTW.. just got a MSI GT660 from newegg.. a week or two ago it was on sale.. $850 after rebate.. smoking deal but now i see why, the thing is build like crap.. smoking deal cause it probably will catch on fire the way the fans freakin out..
anyways, its going back.. looking at the NP8130 now.. just wish they had them in stock..

 

also anyone know of something compairable but with two HDD bays.. something with all the same ports? thats the only thing that seems to be lacking here.. well and a back lit keyboard..

 

well this guys outa the running.. no pc Express slot ...almost there.. so close..

 

Asperi, Madwildcat,

You guys ever heard of the "edit" button?

 

15" with all the ports, backlit keyboard, and two hard drive bays?

Honestly, for the price, I think there is nothing that can trump the 8130 atm.

If you want 2 hard drive bays, and a backlit keyboard, with a upper range GPU and an awesome matte screen, I'd say that is a very unlikely machine.

 

The NP 8170 has the two HDD bays you are looking for with the same ports but its 17.3". I don't think the keyboard is backlit.

The G53JW and SW both have the 2 HDD bays you are looking for and a backlit keyboard but the ports are somewhat different (one less USB 3.0 and a VGA instead of the DVI found on the 8130).

 

..it has to have a PC Express slot. I can skip the firewire maybe if it has that.. the sager np8690 would have been the closest I have found. With Sagers new line they brilliantly skipped having a PCexpress slot..

 

Agreed. Once we can get solid informations about this beast (i.e. build quality, screen quality and cooling performance) and all of them pass the test, no reason for not pulling the trigger.

 

yes it does look like an awesome set up.. maybe i can get by without the express slot..

 

Hey guys have we found out if the GPU is removable to upgrade in the future?

EDIT: Just found out you can

 

If Sager does not have them in stock then no one has then. They are due in to Sager next week...it has nothing to do with Customs though, it is just that they sold out of the first shipment very quickly, and will probably be sold out of the shipment coming next week before it arrives.

So, the thing to do is pick your reseller and get you order in because they will ship in the order received.

 

That is good, because virtually all new models of any brand are coming without the ExpressCard slot.

USB 3.0 is taking over the World

 

A video or some new pictures would be amazing on this.

edit:

How do you guys feel about the new i5-2500k that are going to be released for these models soon?
I only plan on playing video games, watching movies and maybe some light photoshopping. Will I see better performance from the new i5 sandybridge then the i7? Thanks for any input on my situation =]

 

i5-2500k is a desktop CPU.

mobile i5's and i3's are available, i think.
I saw a retailer, I think, mythlogic?

His signature said that he now had mobile i5 and i3 sandy bridges available..

Might want to check it out.

 

Hey we'll have them on 2/20 as that's when the official launch of them are. For the whole quad vs dual core debate, yea if you are not doing anything multi-core intensive you will probably see better performance out of a higher base clocked i5 than you will its lower clock quad cousin. And they suck down less juice and put out less heat so you get a little bit of battery life back too.

 

heh sorry didn't mean to say the desktop i5-2500k, when I was googling thats the only i5 sandybridge that was coming up so I figured it worked in mobiles...but thanks for the clarification =]

are the new i5's going to be 2.7ghz to 3.7ghz? I want something that will go up to 4ghz

 

Right now the top end mobile i5 that we are seeing is 2.70 GHz base clock, with the normal 3.3-3.5ish turbo-boost.

 

I'll have mine tomorrow, ill try to get a video up but i don't know if ill have enough time to run any benchmarks or many test on it, prob just about the screen and first impressions, then next week ill have more time and a few days with the notebook. I got everything stock expect i upgraded the to the i7-2720QM so every thing is pretty standard. Like i said tho i don't have much time and I'm kinda new to this stuff. Plus the only camera i have is my phone so it wont be to great lol.

 

How about your opinions on the screen, weight with the power brick, and heat (CPU/GPU temps and vents) when idle, browsing, maybe a game. In terms of the vents I mean is it blazing hot or lukewarm? And palm rests too please

Like you I got everything stock except have Win7 installed and upgraded the WiFi card. So it would be very much appreciated.

 

i forgot i have Win7 as well, and will Do all of that. Only game i will be able to test is WoW. ill let you know about the heat and noise levels when playing.

 

Amazing Dthorny2010. I am looking forward to see a video of this lappy.

 

Thanks for that. I still have about another month till mine arrives, and that's not even a definite. So these forums are all I have

 

Anyone know if Sager puts Arctic Silver cooling on these as the stock cooling compound? Noticed on XoticPC in their techspecs it lists Arctic and IC Diamond...not sure what this means because there is only one option to select

 

Sager does not use Arctic Silver 5 and will only use IC Diamond if you order it. Otherwise they use the standard factory goop.

 

hispeed4567

what is your Wireless Network Card? normal or advanced?

 

I ordered the intel advanted 6230 with Bluetooth. I was considering the 6300, but it doesn't have bluetooth which is a big trade off just for a higher theoretical peak.

 

Is that so? Have not seen this confirmed anywhere else. I hope you are right - the 8130 would be an even better deal with an upgradeable GPU!

 

That's what it says on malibal.com as well. That the GPU is user-upgradable.

 

Will this support the ATI 6970 due to be released Feb. 1st?

 

I can only find it on Malibal.com..

None of the other retailers state it.

 

what is the different between this two?
Internal 802.11 B G N Wireless LAN Bluetooth Combo Module
AND
Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6230 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Bluetooth Combo Module

 

The stock wireless is just B / G / N only the 2.4 GHz band
The 6230 is A / B / G /N and is dual band both 5GHz and 2.4GHz and has a few more features like channel bonding giving it higher throughput if its hooked to a compatible access point that can handle the higher speed. In addition because it uses more antenna you will get better range out of it too. Along with being able to use the 5GHz band if its available as that usually has less traffic than the 2.4 and it less prone to interference from everything else in that band.

 

More antennas?

 

Well, guys, I think this will help a lot, considering the two models got at least the same look. Guess I'll pull the trigger now and get that 8150. Check it out:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...er-np8150-clevo-p150hm-review-forerunner.html

 

oh for those who have or ordered 8130, what is your Thermal Compound?

 

Stock compound

 

The 8150 has a rubberized finish, the 8130 has a plastic finish.