Official Sager NP8130/Clevo P151HM1 Owners Lounge

Remember ' implementing Optimus' is the thing needed for switchable GPU. The cards themselves support Optimus but Optimus is not being implemented on laptops with high end cards for some reason.

 

I would really like to know why they arnt implementing optimus right away, the technology is available is it not? Or could there be some other issue like heat ?

Did anyone notice my question about the battery pack (does it cause more weight on one side?)

Anyone know if buying the np8130 will be more futureproofing then buying the g53jw-a1? (same specs except the processor and no option for overclocking, which is something I'm scared of doing)

 

The difference between sandy bridge and clarksfield is uncanny.

G53JW only has an i7-720qm, which is the first gen, whilst the 2630qm is the base config for the 8130.

The 8130 is more futureproof because it has support for the new gen of cpus, and probs ivy bridge, the speculated third gen of i7 procs, will have the same socket as the current sandy bridge cpus.

 

Is it possible with a future firmware/bios update there can be optimus on the current 8130, or is it because of the way clevo is making them? The new i7 have Intel® HD Graphics 3000

How is the sound quality on sager systems?

...man im full of questions this week

 

If someone can get the i7 graphics working in these notebooks then optimus is possible with a lot of hacking. Just possible. No guarantee it will actually happen. Check some of the threads on the alienware and diy vi dock forums to see examples of optimus working on unsupported systems. If it is true that the laptop display is hardwired to the dedicated video card then there is no hope for optimus on these laptops.

 

On sagernotebook.com,

this model is now stated to be on backorder..

disappointing, i was about to jump on this...

 

already...

Glad I ordered Tuesday

 

Argh! Anybody have any idea how long that will last? I was planning on ordering at the end of this month.

 

All indications point to "end of January". Whatever that means.

I've got nearly $2000 tied up in a pre-order (NP8170). If it delays more than a couple weeks into February I'm going to cancel and wait another couple months to see if AMD offers any spectacular new GPU tech.

 

sagernotebook.com says ETA end of Jan 2011

 

Still waiting for mine to say shipped On Day 3 ...

 

It usually takes a few days for them to stage, test, pack and ship. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on it when you get it.

 

Waiting anxiously for your review, burkle25!

 

LOL. I don't even think she committed to a review, but the pressure's on now!

 

Just a quick glance will be enough..

I probably will stick to a P150HM for upgradeability.... I'm undecided yet..

 

Well I guess I have to now I'll do a mini-review with hi-res images

 

im on 4 days waiting cant wait to get it

 

CPU-Z, GPU-Z, Cinebench, PCMark, wPrime, HWiNFO, 3D Mark, HD Tune, CrystalDiskMark....

Anything else I can use to test or ones from this I shouldn't use?

 

3DMark Vantage and 3DMark 11, forget about 3DMark06, it means nothing for newer systems.

To be honest I'd be more interested in your overall opinion and overview of the hardware.

 

https://sites.google.com/site/dthorny2010/home/sager3.jpg
https://sites.google.com/site/dthorny2010/home/sager1.jpg
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looks like its rubberized. what do you guys think?

 

I can do that

 

Only the 8150 / P150HM has the rubber coating, the 8130 / P150HM1 doesn't have it.

 

Also take lotssssss of pictures

 

What is it hard Plastic?

 

Yeah, I think 8130 = plastic, 8150 = rubberized, 8170 = metal (brushed aluminum?)

 

That sounds right...
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Get some good photos of the screen with your 40D. I want to see the vertical viewing angles on it.

 

Images and German review of the 8150 with anti-glare screen
Tests Berichte auf notebookjournal.de
http://www.notebookjournal.de/tests...ok-xmg-p501-gtx-485m-intel-2920xm-nkrt-1265/1

 

Its actually pretty bright for a matte screen when you check the review. Of course, all the photos of the screen are shot outdoors in the sunlight which is cool, but it would be nice to see a few indoor shots as well.

 

this is the 8150 i dont think it has a matte screen just anti glare.. although every thing on that review is in German so im not sure i have been trying to translate it with google and so far i been reading it and everything with the 8150 seams good, but the fans are loud under load, this is what a translation came out too... However, the maximum fan speed is stressful. With 51.6 dB (A) of fans acknowledged the concern about the too hot running hardware. During a 3D game or after one hour stress test, the fan rumble but still clearly audible, but with 45.1 dB (A) much more cautious. In office operation, the cooling system makes with 34.6 dB (A) and can be felt in battery mode even up to 31.5 dB reduction (A).

 

Just ordered mine today from Xoticpc. Those guys are so cool. Can't wait for it to arrive.

 

I thought it was th 8130, they were reviewing. Either way, I am a bit suspect of Nvidia mid- to high-end cards since my 8600GT died on me after 3 years. I'd rather have a lower powered optimus card that would guarantee longer life than a powerhouse 3D card. Sure the fans run loud but did they take any temps to see if the hardware was actually running hot? Guess we'll just have to wait for someone in the notebookreview community to enlighten us.

 

Your 8600 GT died because of a manufacturing defect (bad solder) not because of the card. That was abundandtly clear here a couple years back, I still wouldn't doubt if a class action lawsuit comes of it.

 

Anytime I have a green flag about cooling performance and viewing angles I'll pull the trigger and order one from xotic. At first glance it's a killing machine at a more than affordable price. Can't wait for a review! Will be this, the G53JW-A1 or the MSI GX660-060 US. It depends mainly on cooling, a job that G53 and GX660 do admirably.

 

Hey everyone,

I am truly considering getting this laptop, provided that the 5160 being released isn't considerably better for my needs. The only games I plan on playing on this laptop are SC2 and Diablo 3. Is the 460m an overkill? Maybe, but I don't care at this point. I've been going back and forth between ASUS, HP, Dell, Sony, and now this Sager for the past 4 months and I'm getting tired of this waiting game haha With the specs that I want the price ends up around 1300 anyways, so the better GPU is just a perk
Like most, I've waited for SB in hopes that a quad-core CPU w/ an IGP and a decent GPU that would allow optimus to be enabled, but sadly this isn't the case. Battery life would be a bonus since I will be at college, but 2-3hrs should be enough to get me back to an outlet.
The main reasons I'm strongly considering this laptop is because the 1080p screen is standard, there is a number pad on a 15in screen, the plethora of ports (USB 3.0 mostly), real dedicated left/right buttons on the mouse pad (none of that integrated buttons crap), 2630QM standard, and finally the 460m. Only thing to make this laptop perfect would be a backlit keyboard, but I'm nitpicking to find faults with this laptop
My question is would the laptop run cooler if I set the graphics to medium/high (in SC2 and Diablo 3)? In my mind this theory sounds good, but I'm a novice when it comes to these things. Being my second laptop ever, first one that is actually good, I want this to last a few years. Wouldn't running cooler would help in that regard? Thanks for reading and responding.

 

I don't think the 460m is overkill to be honest. SC2 can be quite demanding at higher detail. You should at least be able to run with high detail at 1080p. Who knows for Diablo 3 but I wouldn't expect the specs to be much more demanding than SC2.

 

Agreed. According to NotebookCheck its a pretty good card but by no means is it overkill. It should be able to handle SC2 on top settings but only just barely.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

 

Interesting. Thanks for that link. I've been playing on low on a friends computer so anything is better than that
With regards to the other question, would the laptop run cooler if I just play on medium? I'm sure that the sager can handle the heat, but to be honest for me its more about making the computer last longer rather than extreme gaming performance. Thanks.

 

Hey guys anyone know what kind of performance increase I will see from a i7-2630QM to a 2720QM ? Debating if its worth the extra cash.
May instead grab a 80gb or 120gb SSD. Is it even worth getting an SSD for playing battlefield badcompany2 (bf3 when its out), mmo's, and sc2 (d3 too when its released) ?

 

An upgrade to an SSD will help you more than a i7-2630QM to a 2720QM jump I think most would say...

 

Agreed...spend your money on an SSD for the greater performance gain.

 

Can you post a link to latest SSD drives' comparison test?

 

Just to make sure, will the i7-2630QM be good enough for gaming for the next 3years with the games I mentioned on high settings?

Also does anyone know when those new NP51x0 are gona be released? I thought on the 14th

 

Speaking of class action lawsuit regarding Nvidia:
The NVIDIA GPU Litigation - Home Page

Too bad its limited to only Dell, HP and Apple. What a joke! In their list of qualified symptoms, mine is on that list: Computer turns on but the monitor doesn't. Well, I hope someone gets a fixed laptop out of this at least.

 

Below is one link that has some comparisons...

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5818&review=ssd+vs+hard+drive

 

These are a little older but still relevant to current tech:

Spring 2010 Solid State Drive Roundup, Part 1 : SSD Roundup, Part 1: Getting Ready For SATA 6Gb/s
Spring 2010 Solid State Drive Roundup, Part 2 : SSD Roundup, Part 2: Crucial's SATA 6Gb/s, WD's First SSD

 

In this review it states that SSD's improve battery life...is this true? How much battery life difference can one expect compared to a 7200rpm harddrive?

Also is it easy to format SSD's?

 

Check out here:

Benchmark Results: Power Consumption : Roundup: The Best SSDs For Enthusiasts

With my Intel SSD in my Hannspree netbook I went from 4hrs to over 5 hrs, and from 6.5 hrs to almost 9 hrs on my M11x. Not all SSD's are the same power wise though. Although note that this was with power sipping netbooks. A regular notebook with a dedicated GPU though will consume considerably more power when idle will see little improvement in battery life because the hdd/sdd consumes little power compared to the rest of the system.

SSD's format just like any other drive. Just don't run disk defragmenter is about the only advice I can give for someone new to SSD's. Install Windows 7 fresh on an SSD and it will set it up appropriately.

 

first, thanks for the links guys.

second, I have made a configuration for my next laptop.

Sager 8130 w/ 1080P matte display.
Intel 2720QM
Kingston KHX1600C9S3K2/4GX (8GB)
Crucial C400 ~128GB (coming soon)
AMD 6970 ~2GB (coming soon)
Intel 6300N

only 1 problem..I can spend 1500 USD and don't want to wait another year to wait for the price to come down..


therefor, back to square 1...hehe