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    **Official Sager NP5160 / Clevo W150HNQ Owners' Lounge**

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Ryan, Jan 17, 2011.

  1. Mr_Mysterious

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    Why aren't people more excited about this machine? For me it's got the perfect combination of power, price and portability. Luckily I don't game that much (have a PS3 for that), so this machine is pretty much all about future-proofing.

    Mr. Mysterious
     
  2. ursoouindio

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    I look forward to mine too! It seems the ideal combination for me as well and I think It will give me some years of comfort. (as I don't play that much)

    Sadly I got the news from the Brazilian Clevo reseller that it will be out just in middle April...
     
  3. Mr_Mysterious

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    Right on! And don't worry, good things happen to those that wait. :D

    Mr. Mysterious
     
  4. McGooble

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    Keep in mind that the 4 or so hours of battery life would be under a light work load, 3D and photoshop may drop the usage to closer to the 2-2.5 hour range. I could be wrong though, supposedly the SB processor is more efficient battery-wise than 1st gen i7s.
     
  5. hispeed4567

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    You need a few things to get WiDi. One of them is a compatible processor (the 2630QM is not one of them, for anyone who has it), a intel wifi card (6230, 6300, etc...), a device to push the wireless signal to the tv (a netgear device, goes for $100), intel integrated graphics (available on the 51X0, but not on the 81X0 models), in addition to some software. I don't know if the software is preinstalled or available for puurchase or something.
     
  6. Seanwhat

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  7. Mr_Mysterious

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    Well, I got one question for the well knowing Sager and Clevo folks... That's my first contact with such machines and actually haven't heard of them before (they're not that common around here).

    Some resellers offer the option of using IC Diamond 7 Thermal thermal compounds on their build. I looked around and it seems that it really is better for the cooling system.

    But... Do you really think that it would be important for this model, using a 2720QM processor? It is not one of the hottest, right?

    Actually, I have two different resellers options: one offers the 2630QM with IC Diamond 7 Thermal and the other offers the 2720QM without mentioning the thermal compound. The second also has better overall specs, but even then I wouldn't like to have a much hotter notebook.
    Although I don't know which therm compound the second option uses, their products have a good fame among the customers I've reached.

    Should I worry about this and have the first option?
     
  9. hispeed4567

    hispeed4567 Notebook Evangelist

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    I guess intel needs to update their stuff! Is that with the IGP enabled?
    Edit: nevermind, I checked the link and it won't work for the 81x0 models. I guess HDMI will have to do.
     
  10. Mr_Mysterious

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    Firstly, the new SB processors use less power and, as a result, less heat than the previous generation.

    Secondly, it depends on what you use your machine for. If you do light work, it would not matter. But if you game intensively or video edit or stuff like that...it would be a good investment.

    Personally, even though I won't game all that much (or even at all), I will be buying the cooling compound and be pairing the machine with a good notebook cooler.

    Because for me, this machine is all about longetivity, future-proofing and possible resale value. As a result, I take very good care of my laptops.

    The laptop in my sig is still working fine 3 years after I have bought it; I have been quite careful with it. If you take care of it, it will take care of you. :D

    Mr. Mysterious
     
  11. ursoouindio

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    Mr Mysterious, thanks for the tips.
    I too want to take good care of my new notebook and keep it by my side for years.

    I do use my actual notebook intensively on work and leisure, but this with sandy bridge should handle most things I do much easily. I do not play games very often, but I would like to enjoy its capabilities from time to time and maybe after a while I'll let that aside.

    My problem is that, If I choose to have IC Diamond thermal compound, I'll have to give up a better overall configuration...
    Given that the sandy bridges are a little cooler than the last generation, I'm falling for the better configuration... but still would like some thought on it, as I don't know those Clevo machines and neither have experience with i7s...
     
  12. oz73942

    oz73942 Notebook Guru

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    I would try calling the seller and asking them if its an option. There's a chance since its the 27, that the ic might be stock. (That's the case with xotic)
     
  13. mythlogic

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    All our machines come with IC7 on them, for no additional charge, so you don't have to sacrifice config for some IC Diamond =)
     
  14. ursoouindio

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    I'll try to find that out. It is possible since the reseller does have a good fame and they do use good components. I expect them to use a good thermal compound, but maybe not this one that is 'better'.

    So you ship one to Brazil? Ah, the taxes could get to nearly 100% of the declared value... :p
    Believe, I would like to get one of yours Matte screens. But around here we don't have much options.


    But simplifying the question: would you say that IC7 is a critical point to choose a Clevo W150HNQ notebook with the 2720QM?
     
  15. mythlogic

    mythlogic Company Representative

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    Hey,

    We've had someone from down there just fly up here and pick it up, it was cheaper and they wouldn't have to "help" it though customs, we're 20 min from Detroit Metro so it was no biggie lol.

    But in all seriousness, None of the Sandy Bridge procs run THAT hot in a laptop for it to be required, however, as we know heat is the #1 killer of laptops. So we always recommend using or at least something better than stock, for the simple reason of cooler stuff means it'll last that much longer.
     
  16. Bhima

    Bhima Notebook Consultant

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    Bah, when I see Mythlogic posting in this thread I keep hoping its to say "we got some 5160s in the shop now, time to configure, test and ship em out!"
     
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    Hey McGooble~ Thanks for the input. I guess I will just wait for the laptop to be in stock first, then decide if I should pull the trigger on either NP5160 or NP8130. I've never own or seen a Sager/Clevo laptop before, but they do seem like a fine laptop. :p
     
  18. Mr_Mysterious

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    Got a question for the resellers:

    If I had a Momentus XT 500 and shipped it to you guys, what would be my options in terms of the pricing in order to have it installed into my 5160? (Yes, I've decided to buy this beauty, but not until I have saved up the funds)

    I think it would be fair to offer me a slightly lower price than a fully configured machine with a 320GB HDD in there, since I'm saving you a HDD in the first place and only inputting a much better hybrid HDD in there. What do you think?

    Mr. Mysterious
     
  19. ccfu

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    +1 I've the Seagate Momentus XT 500 too, and would like to know if the overall price would be cheaper without a HDD.
     
  20. mythlogic

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    Yea we can do that, if you have parts that you want in your laptop that you already own or get on some crazy shellshocker thats no problem. Just shoot me a PM, we don't charge for the service just need to get it to us, other people have done that. The only caveat is we don't warranty your own parts, but besides that yea hardware, OS's, other software no biggie send it on in =)
     
  21. Mr_Mysterious

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    Yeah that's fine mythlogic....you didn't answer my other question, which was how would the price change? You wouldn't charge for the service (and thank you for that) but would you be able to lower the price since I'm saving you an HDD?

    Oh and don't worry about the warranty...the Momentus XT is barely a week old, never opened, still in it's original packaging and a completely blank and bare drive. It should be fine.

    Mr. Mysterious
     
  22. Ryan

    Ryan NBR Moderator

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    They should, other resellers save you $40 when pulling out the HDD, and that was for the P150HM barebones with the 320GB base.
     
  23. mythlogic

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    Sorry, of course the price would go down =) Just shoot me a PM and I would be glad to give you a price. Because yea I'm not going to charge you for parts i'm NOT putting in hehe.
     
  24. tim.sloane

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    Just got my shipping notification from Power Notebooks; it'll go out either today or tomorrow! YEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!
     
  25. mrPico

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    Congrats!! Can you tell us when you ordered? :) We are eager to get ours too!
     
  26. tim.sloane

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    Yeah, I ordered it January 18th. It's been a long wait, but I was probably pretty near the front of the queue. No tracking number e-mailed to me this morning, so it should be shipping out tonight.
     
  27. Justin@XoticPC

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    Shipments have finally started. Many of you should have tracking #'s in your inbox this AM. :)
     
  28. tim.sloane

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    Heh heh, just got my tracking number, it's scheduled to arrive on Pi Day! What a great Pi Day present ^_^
     
  29. Bhima

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    Right on, good to see these are already starting to move.
     
  30. quantumslip

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    Ordered my NP5160 directly from Sager. Today got a call stating that they have systems in and will ship mine next week!

    FYI I ordered on 1/27.
     
  31. mrPico

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    Looks like us February people won't get theirs shipped until the end of next week if everything goes well. That's a bummer because it will be after my college break.
     
  32. hispeed4567

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    Its better than what Sager originally predicted. March would have trickle shipments and shipments would stabilize after march, sometime in april.
     
  33. Catan

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    Can't wait for the reviews...
     
  34. ursoouindio

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    me too! :D

    Btw, this notebook supports dual-channelling on a 2+4 GB RAM configuration?
     
  35. justsomedude

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    Anyone heard anything from Mythlogic about ship dates yet?
     
  36. levin70

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    I have been in an e-mail exchange today with Josh. I am #2 on the list and they expect to have my shell in house early next week for build. I asked for pictures (shell and parts arrival, during build and testing) and will try to post as they come in.

    Be forewarned however, I have heard from super secret spies that the mythlogic guys like to build au natural so to speak, so these pictures are only meant for a mature audience :eek: :cool:

    Regards
     
  37. justsomedude

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    Cool, thanks. What was your order date?
     
  38. Bhima

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    I too am getting one of the first 5160s from Mythlogic and my order date was 1/29
     
  39. geoxile

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    Lol. I probably won't get mine till April...ordered march :(
     
  40. ursoouindio

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    Mine's estimated date is April 18th. I guess Brazillian resellers are left to lower priority hhehehe

    As I said some pages back, i still have two options to get, from two different resellers. I got them for about the same price (actually the second is 2% cheaper :p)

    1. 2630QM, 4GB RAM, IC Diamond Thermal Paste and 2 years warranty

    2. 2720QM, 6GB RAM, "surprise" thermal compound and 3 years warranty

    On the other specs, both options are the same: Full HD screen, 500GB 7200 RPM HD, blue-ray reader, lame 42.84 Wh battery.

    I'm falling for the number two. Despite the surprise element, they have a good fame among clients (most are more game enthusiasts than I) and a very nice warranty. Also, I suppose I will not stress the CPU and GPU that much on my regular basis...

    What do you think?
     
  41. mrPico

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    Wow definitely get the second option for 2% less unless the company is fishy.
     
  42. flipflopper81

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    I only ordered a few days ago, but was told to expect my 1411/NP5160 by the end of the month. Other vendors were quoting early April. So while it sounds like Myth hasn't quite got their shells yet, they may be able to get through their orders faster... hopefully :cool:
     
  43. ursoouindio

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    Thanks, mrPico.
    These company has a good reputation. I've been looking for references and almost everyone is pretty satisfied with their products/services.
     
  44. levin70

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    My original order date was either the 26th or 27th of January. I updated the order in late Feb to change SSD's - from the ocz vertex 2 to the newer corsair perf 3. Extra $150 that I believe over the long haul will be well worth the investment

    Regards
     
  45. geoxile

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    Anyone get an ETA for Xoticpc.com?
     
  46. FatherEarth

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    Since NewEgg hasn't restocked the refurbished G73 in a while (and it doesn't have a 1080p screen), I'm considering this.

    I've been seriously thinking about buying the HP ENVY 17 (Radeon HD 5850), but the problem I find with that is that the estimated shipping date is the very end of this month. So, I see this NP5160 but the date isn't known.

    If I ordered this, do you guys think it would arrive sooner than the HP? I'm just tired of trying to find a laptop for under $1100 that will play anything at a good framerate.
     
  47. Justin@XoticPC

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    We are expecting to start shipping this weeks orders on all Sager Models within approximately 10-12 business days. We are getting through orders quickly and should be current with orders very soon :D :D
     
  48. geoxile

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    Lol great news! But now I'm anxious :O
     
  49. c0lap1nada

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    Kind of late but I just pre-ordered mine today... hopefully I won't get it in June or something :D
     
  50. Bhima

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    I think you'll get the Envy or the 5160 around the same time. Now if you are looking to game, I don't think the 5160's 540m graphics card can compete with an AMD 5850. If you plan on gaming more than actually working on your machine, I'd consider getting the Envy instead. If you need to work more on it and feel the SB processor upgrade would make that part of your life faster, then get the 5160.
     
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