One problem when repairing so much as above is that a replacement can become more economically viable.
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In my case it wasn't a problem as components started failing long after projected lifetime of the laptop when spare parts could be bought on ebay for peanuts. I contemplated buying a replacement Clevo laptop few years back but was put off by Intel being stuck on 14nm and also Intel security issues started to crop up. Replacing motherboard to fix the intermittent keyboard issue isn't economically viable anymore though. LCD also developed a minor color defect in upper right corner due to burn out from Windows min/max/close buttons.
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See link "Stock BIOS user can do this:"
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...m-owners-lounge.831618/page-455#post-11081958Spartan@HIDevolution and DRevan like this. -
I'm a (so far) happy owner of a Clevo x170 KM-G (sold by Italian reseller Santech) with i9-11900KF, 1 TB of Samsung 980 Pro SSD and RTX 3080 latpop video card. I got it friday after 1 month waiting. (See my signature for complete specs).
This is my TimeSpy result with (I suppose) stock BIOS (INSYDE Corp. 1.07.02TSAS):
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DaMafiaGamer Switching laptops forever!
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TechPowerUp GPU-Z Validation 6m84x
And this should be the hardware ID:
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150w+15w dynamic boost
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Schenker XMG Ultra 17 (Clevo X170KM-G) in the test: massive power pack with ample equipment notebookcheck.com | today
Yeah, the castrated Ampere cards with Jensen will save the earth environment. Why not castrate the real Ampere desktop cards in same way for the same sake?
Next goal has to be try shrink down the power consumption further so a single 330w power adapter is more than enough. Big win for Clevo and Nvidia.raz8020, jc_denton, hacktrix2006 and 3 others like this. -
This is the CPU-Z report for the processor:
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I wonder why Notebook Check didn't compare this laptop to the "World's most powerful and overclockable gaming laptop." ???
LOL!
For those of you who haven't seen the marketing hype... https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/del...gaming-laptop/spd/alienware-area51m-r2-laptop
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NBC can be quite selective in its comparisons. Luckily you can add other configs to the benchmark comparisons (eg ge76...).
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hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU
Just a heads up, miners have taken notice of the X170's for use in crypto mining. So if your planning on getting an x170 anytime soon, it might be the time to pull the trigger. Looks like I will be priced out by the time I have enough to get a basic spec.
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Geez it is getting desperate in desktop land.
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At the very least, we can replace the GPUs on these laptops if we get one used from a miner.hacktrix2006 likes this. -
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I am still going to try and get a X170 as currently using Dual Core T9500 R61e with a GMA 950 igpu and 4GB is painful for me right now and i have only been using it full time for a few days and its doing my nut in.
I spec'd out for a RTX 3070 (As i was planning on not doing an MXM upgrade to much much later if it was possible), however if the price increases i am going to be forced to an RTX 3060 if the laptop is still even in stock.Clamibot likes this. -
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Who knows how it will all look at the end of the year either.
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A laptop 3080 has about 56 mh/s hashrate, a laptop 3060 has about 38 mh/s.
If you are stupid enough to use laptop for mining, why would you buy an expensive dtr with 3080? Just buy a crap bga laptop to mine.
Perfect example is the MSI gf65 with rtx 3060. It's garbage for gaming but perfect for mining with 38 mh/s.
Where I live there are a ton in stock of these and comparing the price to an x170km I could buy 2 of these to mine 2x 38 mh/s (76 mh/s) instead for 1x x170km with 3080 mining at 56 mh/s.
Not to mention that with buying 2x cheap bga laptop I would get more mining done, I would save money too and with 2x bga 3060 laptops I would have about $330 left for hookers and cocaine.
So why would anyone buy the x170km with 3080 for mining ? Are these idiots who believe the 3080 in the Cleo machine is the same as the desktop 3080 because it's "changeable" ??hacktrix2006 likes this. -
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Well good news is my order is now in, managed to get everything sorted. Just have to wait 15 days now.
So i guess i am in the Clevo club.
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Ordered the following
CPU: i5 11400
RAM: 4GB (Replacing with my 32GB Kit)
SSD: 128GB (Replacing with my current SSD's)
GPU: RTX 3070
Screen: 1080p 144hz
Wireless: Killer AX Wifi
Just need to findout how to remove the keyboard now as i have 4x 8GB sticks to put in.
OP might want to add https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/ (PCSpecialist UK) to the list of resellers. Its known as a Recoil V 17 (Direct Link: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/recoil-V-17/)win32asmguy likes this. -
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For the keyboard memory the X170SM procedure should be the same. You can grab the service manual for it from Palkeo, or also use these instructions which are good:
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Might seem stupid me asking (Ask stupid questions get stupid prizes), does anyone have a link to a 3D Image of the laptop, i am starting to design a laptop stand for it but having difficulty visualizing it.
Its ok to have dimensions of 399mm (w) x 319mm (d) x 43.5mm (h). However is the 43.5 the thickest point etc.
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Maybe they'll plan on using them at local restaurants, libraries, or other public facilities. If they're mobile and ppl can use them without paying for their OWN power needs, perhaps they're more attractive to someone low enough to pull something like this.
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I'm waiting for a laptop like this. Right now I got the P775dm-g, it was the one with a 980m and 6700k. I already upgrade it with nvme, 1070m and 64ddr 4 corsair.
But i think that it's time to replace it and sell it.
The only thing that keeps me from buy a new laptop is the fact, that not one 2020 laptop got pcie 4.0. And now there is this new Clevo. But why it only support pcie 4.0 on graphic in one nvme? why the others nvme only support pcie 3.0?support needed and jc_denton like this. -
With each new generation of CPUs, new chipsets are introduced at Intel. With Bo (a) rd this time are B560, H570, and Z590. The biggest innovation concerns the B560 and H570 chipsets, which for the first time offer the possibility of overclocking the main memory, which was previously reserved for the Z chipsets. According to Intel, the individual board manufacturers decide how much RAM-OC the boards can handle. There is also support for USB 3.2 Gen 2, x8 DMI Gen 3.0, Wi-Fi 6E, and Thunderbolt 4. Rocket Lake-S will move towards PCI Express 4.0, however just the processor. The Z590 PCH is still fully fetched PCIe Gen 3.0, the PCIe Gen 4.0 graphics card lanes thus are driver straight from the processor, and not chipset. The DMI link as such also sticks towards PCIe Gen 3.0 lanes (DMI = interconnect in-between CPU and chipset). Intel however did double up the bandwidth, connecting not four but eight lanes (with Z590). That also means Z490 is still using an x4 DMI PCIe Gen 3 interlink.
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-meg-z590-ace-review,2.html
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That means this is still not a fully support pcie 4.0 board?
It will be ever a board/chipset/cpu that support many pcie 4.0 devives?
In my case i just want to change when i got two pcie 4.0 for nvme and one for graphics.support needed likes this. -
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@Papusan Am i reading that image correctly, Z590 has a single 1x16 PCI-E 4.0 line to CPU with a spare 1x 4 PCI-E 4.0 lane for NVME as the "or intel ssd" is throwing me off on that image (Intel really need to be more deceive on what they mean), still find it strange that DMI is still connected via PCI-E 3.0 albeit with double bandwidth.
Does anyone know which of the M.2 Slots are for PCI-E 4.0 and which are for NVME/SATA.
Thanks @win32asmguy for the link for keyboard removal query (System76 seems to make lovely technical documents props to them for that). Just waiting now on the X170KM Service manual (Found the X170SM service manual and it was an interesting read wish all OEM's was so forward in schematics).
Is there anything that members want me to test when i get my hands on my X170KM?
Also another question (sorry i am asking a lot i know i am sorry just like to be forward planned), as i am making a Laptop stand from scratch is the middle of the mesh area on the laptop still sucking in air as i am trying to plan the supports for the laptop stand/cooler which is going to be made from steel.Last edited: Apr 24, 2021jc_denton likes this. -
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Gaming wise with the same GPU the two will be identical unless direct storage really likes a PCI-E 4.0 straight to the CPU.
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Well according my Samsung Magician's benchmark, the 980 Pro SSD (PCI-E 4.0 straight to the CPU) has double perfomance vis-a-vis with the 970 Evo (PCI-E 3.0):
In English it's almost 7k in reading and 5k in writing for the 980 Pro.support needed likes this. -
Is it possible to undervolt a non K cpu in clevo Control Center or even that option is locked because it's not a K cpu ?
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For me it's a no for me, only having a pcie 4.0 don't wotk for me, already got one WD sn850 1tb and one WD sn850 2tb waiting.
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It's there if you need it, but do you need 3x Gen 4 slots? Is one PCI-E 4.0 not enough? You could still raid a second set off the chipset (which also gets more bandwidth).
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