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    *** Official Clevo W230ST/Sager NP7330 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HTWingNut, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. Megacharge

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    But not as great as it could at 1080p with more demanding titles. I'll also wait for preliminary memory OC's before I entirely rule this laptop out of my list of options, but I have to say, it's not looking too good to me at this moment in time.
     
    Megacharge, Jun 13, 2013
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  2. sisqo_uk

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    as long as it runs battlefield 4 nicely i do not give a **** lol. the sony Sa models could run b3 on medium to high with some ultra but the shadows was prob on medium with no AA and it looked fine and ran at native 900p screen with a 6630m and got 22-30fps on stock clocks. im sure something according to 3d mark 11 that is 4x more powerful should run b4 on a 765m on high to ultra and look fine with 900p or even 1080p with around 30fps. i dont need shadows on high or possibly any AA on 900p pr 1080p screen. so more perfomance on maxing as well as i can.
     
    sisqo_uk, Jun 13, 2013
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    The memory will clock to what your chips are capable of ;) It's all individual chip based.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 14, 2013
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    Gonna need luck there for sure.

    But a high percentage number of users successfully OC it to a certain set of clock would also help.
     
    Amal77, Jun 14, 2013
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    why does it take so long to release w230st while most branded already released their power ?
     
    He1p, Jun 17, 2013
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  6. bitslightlymad

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    Hello friends,

    Sorry if this was already posted. I just came across this .. first video on the w230ST
    ignore the presenter's attempts to speak english...

     
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    bitslightlymad, Jun 19, 2013
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  7. HTWingNut

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    Already been posted, but thanks. :)
     
    HTWingNut, Jun 19, 2013
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  8. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Larry@LPC-Digital, Jun 19, 2013
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    What about the USB 3.0 bug (S3 state) with the chipset on the W230ST ? I heard HM87 are affected and Intel wont correct this before late July.
     
    Clevernerd, Jun 20, 2013
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  10. ECKS

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    Dang, very tempting to sell my m17xR3 and nab this beast. What do y'all think?
     
    ECKS, Jun 20, 2013
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  11. HTWingNut

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    Well, if you are satisfied with the performance of the 6970m, but want more portability, I'd say go for it. The 765m should do similar performance.
     
    HTWingNut, Jun 20, 2013
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  12. ECKS

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    Yea. What would you recommend as the best avenue for legitimately selling this? Ebay? Craigslist? The NBR Marketplace?
     
    ECKS, Jun 21, 2013
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    The NBR marketplace tends to do pretty well, you can also try the individual reseller forums as well. I try to suggest straying from Craigslist if possible, but Ebay is relatively painless if you don't mind the seller fees.
     
    Support.1@XOTIC PC, Jun 21, 2013
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  14. HTWingNut

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    I agree with Derek. I've had pretty good luck with NBR. Just don't have any unrealistic expectations for what it's worth no matter what avenue you take. Plus you charge more, people expect perfection, where if you undercut the price a bit compared with others they are likely to let little things slide. Obviously disclose any and all concerns with it but sometimes a small dent or scratch that you don't care about people can get quite livid about.
     
    HTWingNut, Jun 21, 2013
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  15. ECKS

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    Sounds good. I might do just that--- going down from 17" to a 13" will be very good for my arms and back, for sure :)

    Also, for what it's worth, you (and a handful of other guys) have been really helpful throughout my entire journey through NBRism. Learned so much!
     
    ECKS, Jun 22, 2013
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  16. kMaN_(KYA)

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    That figures, after I just bought a NP6110. :( I would have definitely waiting for the 13".
     
    kMaN_(KYA), Jun 23, 2013
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    I was debating between waiting for this or getting a laptop now. I have zero patience so I went ahead an ordered the NP8230 last week :D

    I really wanted to wait for this or the P150SM though, but there's no ETA so :(
     
    I'm Poor, Jun 23, 2013
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    Pretty sure we are selling those P150SM ;)
     
    mythlogic, Jun 24, 2013
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  19. Trazzm

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    Yeah, not to mention that there is an eta on the W230ST of mid July.
     
    Trazzm, Jun 24, 2013
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    Kevinmcg, Jun 24, 2013
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    HTWingNut, Jun 24, 2013
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    Yes i apologize it was overclocked. My supervisor was asking me something while i was typing the post.
    It scores about 4300P stock and @ +120 Core +575 Memory it hits 4800P.


    He scored 4400P when he overclocked the memory +600.
    When he clocked the core +120 he hit 4800P.

    If prema or SVL7 comes out with an +vcore for this card it will hit over 5000P. Probably hit Desktop GTX 650 Ti territory.
     
    Kevinmcg, Jun 24, 2013
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  23. HTWingNut

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    Nice. Now just to know what the cooling is like on this little guy. Definitely looking forward to a vBIOS mod.
     
    HTWingNut, Jun 24, 2013
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  24. Kevinmcg

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    I got an AW 14 and i'm a little more concerned about the power brick than the cooling. 150W for a i7 and a GTX 765m. Might be pushing it.
     
    Kevinmcg, Jun 24, 2013
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    There's always aftermarket 180W PSU's. But 150W seems a bit extreme considering the 650m + i7 run < 100W maxed. Hopefully Prema can work his magic with the W230ST with an UV mod and drop power useage by a good 15-20W at load. ;) Granted the 650m in the W110ER only uses DDR3 and not GDDR5, but still for the GPU+vRAM to consume an *extra* 50W+ seems a bit extraordinary.
     
    HTWingNut, Jun 24, 2013
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  26. PausaniasX

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    What is the reliability of Clevo/Sager like?
     
    PausaniasX, Jun 24, 2013
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  27. HTWingNut

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    What do you mean by reliability? They're well constructed machines with good build quality backed by a 1 year standard warranty with a quite inexpensive 2 and 3 year warranty. I'm a pretty heavy user of laptops and the half dozen or so Clevo's I've owned have stood the test of time.
     
    HTWingNut, Jun 24, 2013
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  28. PausaniasX

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    More precisely, I wanted to know the average number of times I could expect to need warranty service in the first three years. My expectation from my experiences with Dell, Apple, and Sony is about once per 3 years. I'm seriously considering this notebook but I don't want to be shipping it back for warranty service many times a year.

    Experiences will vary but I'm wondering what the average would be.

    Is onsite warranty available as far as extended goes?
     
    PausaniasX, Jun 25, 2013
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  29. HTWingNut

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    Only Sager could tell you their warranty figures, and they may not disclose them, but I'd say it's no worse than any of the other OEMs. Gaming laptops tend to run hot, and nature of the product as a mobile platform lends itself to failures and many times due to customer rough handling or abuse. Sure things happen, but in my experience, usually either within the first 30 days where you can even get 100% money back, or after 2-3 years when the laptop has had its fair share of use and abuse. Like any other product, invest in a warranty for the amount of time you feel you need to laptop to operate.

    There is no on-site warranty, it's all shipped to Sager for repair and returned to you, all covered under the 1 year or pre-purchased 2 or 3 year warranties.
     
    HTWingNut, Jun 25, 2013
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  30. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    To add onto WingNuts response, the nice thing about Sager laptops is that they're generally user serviceable if you have the know how. I know we tend to have less Sager warranty issues come into us in Sales than we do with other manufacturers, but that could be attributed to Sager build quality just as easily as it is that people tend to fix their own machines when it comes to it. The advice of buying the warranty for your length of usage is very sound advice though.
     
    Support.1@XOTIC PC, Jun 25, 2013
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    He1p, Jun 26, 2013
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    One thing for warranty

    MSI the worst you ever want to deal with

    my gt783 has some gpu problem and took it to service but 2 months had pass and they still cant fix it

    Ps: yes I am under warranty
     
    He1p, Jun 27, 2013
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  33. PausaniasX

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    If LightningPL's information is right, this thing would appear to have an IPS screen.

    I'm a bit put off by the chunkiness and weight, but otherwise the specs are great. Looking forward to reading some reviews in a month or so.
     
    PausaniasX, Jun 27, 2013
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  34. lee_what2004

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    Quote from the website,
    "*Please note that default configuration is a 13.3" 1920x1080 IPS Matte Display. "
    Logical Blue One - Horize W230ST 13.3" Clevo Gaming Notebook
     
    lee_what2004, Jun 27, 2013
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    Interesting. mSATA is the stock drive at Logical Blue One's site. Wonder if that will be the case with Sager? If these are truly on their way, then at this point I wish Sager would release specs and configuration options so I can get an mSATA SSD if it goes on sale in the next couple of weeks. I'm considering RAID 0 Plextor M5M 128GB SSD's and putting my Crucial M4 512GB in my primary drive bay, and then my Crucial M500 960GB in my NP9150.
     
    HTWingNut, Jun 27, 2013
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  36. He1p

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    Can you raid 0 with two mSATA and one 2.5 " ?
     
    He1p, Jun 27, 2013
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    You wouldnt want to even if possible. RAID will be as fast as the slowest drive so the mSATA drives will be waitinng on the 2.5" HDD all the time. A single mSATA would be faster then set up.
     
    Support.3@XOTIC PC, Jun 27, 2013
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  38. lee_what2004

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    Maybe he/she want to do it with 2.5'' SSD ?
     
    lee_what2004, Jun 27, 2013
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    Is there any news about any US resellers offering this for pre-order? I had just ordered a super-stock Pulse 14, but this has better specs with more portability for the same price, so before I cancel, I'm trying to get a feel for when I can get my hands on one.


    Thanks!
     
    ihermanator, Jun 27, 2013
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    No news as far as an ETA from what I've heard. I would assume in the next couple months but that's probably more than you're willing to wait if you have an order pending now.
     
    Support.1@XOTIC PC, Jun 27, 2013
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  41. ihermanator

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    Ah, thanks so much for that.

    Maybe I can leverage the expertise here. I'm not a gamer, but I do need a pretty robust portable laptop for work. The Maingear seemed to fit the bill at superstock (i7-4702q and 16gb ram, the ram being a must).

    I wouldn't mind a bit smaller, and a higher res screen with the same specs, as in the w230st, but it is a bit heavier, and about as thin as the Pulse. Also, the Pulse is only 1600x900, but again, I don't see myself ever noticing that discrepancy. Would I notice it when I hook up to my dual-monitor setup at work/home?

    Again, my maingear should be shipping by first week of July, so I imagined waiting another week for this might be worth it, if its a few months, its out of the question.. But I just don't know which is the better option for me.

    Any input, ideas?

    Thanks again for all the help!
     
    ihermanator, Jun 27, 2013
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    This machine should ship in about two weeks from everything I'm told. The 765m and 1080p screen are well worth it IMHO not to mention RAID 0 mSATA option.
     
    HTWingNut, Jun 27, 2013
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    Seriously cannot wait for this.
     
    mattstermh, Jun 27, 2013
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    The most I can say in an official aspect is this may or may not be the sneak peek pictures we've been posting on FB and that Wingnut pretty often has accurate information.
     
    Support.1@XOTIC PC, Jun 28, 2013
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    Truth :)
     
    Hookerlips, Jun 28, 2013
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  46. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    Seeing this with Killface next to it makes it even more truth
     
    Support.1@XOTIC PC, Jun 28, 2013
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    Logical Blue One (Brand: Horize) often puts mSATA as standard kit into their range. In turn, they are bit more expensive on other components compared to their competition at Affordable Laptops (Brand: Metabox).
     
    vegetaeater, Jun 28, 2013
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    He1p, Jun 28, 2013
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    Been reading about a bit recently and am waiting... This is just a pre order too... Was quoted a few weeks wait..
     
    Sammyson, Jun 28, 2013
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    so it has 2 mSATA slots? hmm.. what a good idea.... I could have my VM's on a 512 SSD, my OS on another 512GB and a 1TB in the drive bay
     
    ha1o2surfer, Jun 28, 2013
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