I recently purchased a PC50DD2 with the 4k OLED screen. One thing I'm unsure about however is the built in speakers. I knew to set my expectations pretty low on the speakers already but I didn't expect them to be this bad. I get quite severe distortion once the volume goes above 10 in windows (which is low). Is that normal with this model? I basically can't tolerate it at all.
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Unfortunately yes, they are quite bad, especially compared to the XMG Fusion 15 for instance. You can use the Soundblaster Atlas Software to improve the sound quality a little bit. Should be on the Driver disk.Last edited: Jan 10, 2021 -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
It was one area that was downcosted on this model.
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Goodmorning,
I already bught and ordered this laptop (PC50DD2) FROM PcSpecialist, I choosed it for an use like an Audio Workstation and obviously gaming.
Now, I've read few answer time ago that say DPC latency on this PC is not fair enough for audio production.
I dont know this argument, I thinked that latency was strictly proportional to the CPU's power but now I've read this is not a "always right rule".
So, someone could run latencymon and show me the results? I use Asio4All drivers.
My specs: i7-10875h with 2060 and 32gb ram 2933mhz.
Could someone tell me if there's a ONE way to set well latencymon to obtain a valuable and measurable result? Or it's a jungle like it seems?
Sorry for my english !
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BrightSmith Notebook Evangelist
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Hi guys, I posted a question in the main forum but nobody replied so far: maybe I will be more lucky linking it here, since that might happen to anyone in this forum
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/pc50dd2-pcs-unable-to-shutdown.835129/
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Save early, save often. But these are the sort of rare bugs that can happen with consumer systems. No matter what system I'm on I always assume the machine will shut off at any moment.
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The issue was not the OS hanging, but the fact that I was unable to force the shutdown.
Imagine that happening on a landing plane: Please pilot, can we fly some more hours because I CAN'T shutdown my hanging laptop?"
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If you were desperate you could disconnect the internal battery.
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Hi everyone, I have the 4K OLED in my PC50DD2 which is supposed to be capable of displaying HDR content however I can't seem to get it to work. I can toggle HDR on or off in windows but if it is toggled on, my display turns a strange magenta colour. I have no toggle for "stream hdr video". It's just permanently turned on so I can't choose to force netflix to only play HDR titles in SDR to get around it. I have tried the netflix windowstore app and Edge browser, it makes no difference. So when I am watching shows or movies that are HDR, the video is almost black, it just doesn't display correctly and I can't stream the SDR version instead.
Even though the samsung 4k OLED is only rated vesa hdr400, it should still be able to display HDR content correctly.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
HDR in windows is still not great in general. Have you updated your Intel drivers?
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Speak with your reseller, they may have encountered it before.
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The new series PC50DP-D/PC50DR-D/PC50DS-D for RTX 30 GPUs are out. Pity that there is no AMD CPU.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
The intel name still carries a lot of weight especially in that market.
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Hi there,
I am considering a new Defiance VIII ( this one) and I have some question for Defiance VII/PC50 owners:
- Is it possible to use G-SYNC with an external monitor? If yes, does it work through miniDP or HDMI?
- What is the max power of the GPU? I am undecided between the 3070 and the 3080 and I'm not sure if they have the same power cap and how that would impact performance -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
I believe it does support running an external off the integrated graphics (not mentioning surround view is the giveaway) but I'm not 100% on which of the ports it is.
For power:
- Maximum TGP: 105 W (including 15W Dynamic Boost 2.0)
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Hey guys,
just saw Bestware/XMG/Schenker has a new laptop, the XMG Pro early 2021 with 300hz and 100 % SRGB display. Based on the exact same Clevo PC50 Barebone as the Schenker Key 15 for instance. So I have a Clevo PC50 with RTX 2070 max q.and 144hz display. Do you think it should be possible to upgrade to the 300hz panel without any issues? Officially the new Barebone is declared PC51 I think, but 5he size etc is exactly the same than the PC50.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
The panel is connected to the IGP, it can't connect directly. Support will depend on your Linux distro with Optimus.
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I've been eyeing the new 2021 offering from XMG, but it seems there's no g-sync panel yet? Does anyone know of any EU resellers that have it? XMG lists it as "unknown" for est availability. External gsync monitor is not an option for me due to mobility.
EDIT: Upon closer inspection, I can't find any G-Sync 15" panels for RTX 30 series Clevo laptops. Interesting... I guess they didn't get certified with ngreedia for some reason...Last edited: Feb 19, 2021 -
Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Will be a matter of time for that.
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seem like the replacement is up on Sager website - 3070 at the moment
https://www.sagernotebook.com/Notebook-NP8752R.html
was wondering is RTX 3070 maximum TGP:105W is enough for ultra high setting gaming ? should i wait for Tiger Lake 11th Gen intel CPU as well ?
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Even TGP is half the story. It comes down to cooling.
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Hello guys, is there any review for the new model with RTX 3xxx yet ? I'm looking forward to getting one.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Nothing just yet.
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My pc50 just crashed massively. First the keyboard stopped responding, then Obsidian tools gave a critical error, then the computer hang. Could not turn the laptop off with the power button. Then came a bsod and now a black screen, still cannot turn off the laptop and I don't have a screwdriver with me to remove the battery... Anyone else has experience with this?
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BrightSmith Notebook Evangelist
It seems like HDAudBus.sys is the culprit.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Sounds like it really upset the firmware.
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BrightSmith Notebook Evangelist
The 3080 refresh of the 2080 super maxq is actually slower in some tests (while still running very hot and loud): https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schen...ightweight-High-End-All-Rounder.526379.0.html
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Seemed a bit faster in 1080p to me in the tests they posted compared to the last model. Would have been interesting to see 1440p and ray tracing results.
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However, if you add the XMG Neo 3070 to the comparison it crushes the lower TGP 3080. No reason to choose the PRO over the NEO unless you desperately need Thunderbolt. -
I recently purchased the clevo pc70dn2 with the 2080 super max q from xoticpc and I am having issues with it.
whenever I try to play games on it "The division 2, F1 2020" it keeps getting extremely hot and the laptop freezes. I tried changing the thermal paste from what it came with to Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste, and I am still having the same issues.
I downloaded throttlestop and turned off turboboost and manual set my laptop fans to max since they dont like turning up on their own. even with this it still overheat sometime.
I don't really know how to use throttlestop, so I dont what would be that proper settings. Has anyone had these issues? if so what do you do to fix them?
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What are your gpu and cpu temps?
Do you use Afterburner?
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I would speak to your reseller, could be hardware issues.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
I would not mess around too much with a new machine and as I said speak to your reseller. It should not be crashing on a new machine.
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Thanks for the advice, It's gonna be a pain since I'm a truck driver it's hard to stop by a post office to mail the laptop back.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Have a word with them but yes it will probably need looking at.
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After 4 months i'm satisfied with this laptop, although i've encountered yesterday an issue which worries me a bit. When i use the laptop with battery, the temperatures are fine,
as soon as I put the charger in, it runs hot, both with the CPU and the GPU (about 85-90 degrees), even if i'm not doing anything. When i charge the notebook once i've turned it off, there's no problem at all. i've checked the energy profile in windows, which is setted on Balanced, so it seems there's a setting which causes this thermal issue, otherwise what could it be? -
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If you want to use it as your primary gaming laptop it needs a LM repaste to really shine imho. For less demanding games an undervolt CPU underclock, and fps cap works for me.
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