*** Official Clevo P970Ex Owner's Lounge ***

The actual model here is 9xxedefen
Meaning there is no difference at all between the models but the case and screen.
I think we should combine the owners threads personally

 

Yes, it is listed on Clevo website as P9xxEx Series so both 960xx and 970xx use the same drivers.

 

well the motherboard and system id says 9xxedefen
so theres no difference at all.
obviously the motherboard is larger to fill the space the case is larger but its functionally the same thing exactly

heres my oc 3dmark firestrike

reaching 18772

so the max p is up to 21000 right? thats sort of my goal

 

or overall score i want to reach 4k gaming so

 

2070 max-p results
Asus ROG Strix Scar II GL704GW 8750H 16 GB RAM ForceWare 417.71 19236
Schenker XMG Ultra 15 9700K 16GB RAM 19353
Schenker XMG Neo 17 8750H 32 GB RAM ForceWare 419.35 19800
Aorus 15 X9 8750H 16 GB RAM ForceWare 417.49 20227
MSI GE75 8SF 8750H 16384 MB ForceWare 419.17 20236
Schenker XMG Ultra 15 Turing 9700K 32 GB RAM ForceWare 419.17 20759

 

well ill patiently wait until i see the nvbios for the clevo maxp

i mean ill look at the asus maxp also or i guess there will also be a gigabyte

if my score just using the afterburner oc scan is 18800 the goal is now 2000 gpu score it should just go up with the 115 watt tdu. id like to watch someone else do it first.

theres no thermal limit on the gpu at all in almost any of these machines but least of all the 2070 maxq machines they all run really cool

 

7 ms response

 

That website just dividing 1000 by your monitor refresh rate.
It has nothing to do with pixel response times.

 

This has been discussed before: official policy is to differentiate by screen size.

 

Indeed you need an oscilloscope and voltage measurements.

 

Hi,
After repasting everything is ok.(test with -0.135V)

But very bad pcspecialist job : i had to change thermal pad

 

Pads or paste?

 

I changed one pad and past on cpu/gpu (cooler master maker)

 

The dirty pad on the right?

 

Yes

 

oh gotcha they put paste on the pad

you can actually see in the way the pads are compressed it is not even like the whole thing may be warped

this heatsynch could be a nightmare as its two things connected one to screw up the other

id like to see your picture of the other side of it im curious about something. why is my heat synch has one of the pipes paint removed already. its almost like sager did some tuning on mine for free. not that i would complain

 

i let the fans run at max till it goes to 40 then run the test it doesnt go over 50 for most of the test

basically a record i think but the range is 57 to 67

basically the exhaust is to the left side and then to the right back
but essentially all of the intake is from the bottom the more its raised the cooler it gets

so i can tell something to engineer is more air intake obviously you look on the bottom its very well perforated howeever it may be sitting on a desk with no air

 

The other side :

 

And temp with max fan :

 

mine looks the same

i uploaded the p70ef vbios to techpowerup.

now we need one from the clevo 2070 maxp

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/209913/209913

 

heres some dangerous 2070 vbios roms, we have the razer 15 90watt 2070 maxq and then the tongfang 2070 maxp rom

in order to use a maxp you need a 230 watt power supply and maybe some bios mod not sure yet. i hope someone with our machines goes for it and guinea pigs it im keeping mine warranty safe for now unless i see something exciting

it might be a better idea to use a bios that says clevo even though other manufacturers it worked clevo might not i havent seen a success story here on a clevo yet

Meaning heres the tongfang 115 watt 2070 however we have many people who can use gpuz here and upload a clevobranded one if the same thing in a minute hopefully someone does i also uploaded the stock 2070 to keep in case it doesnt work

 

Please help me, I don't know what to take... Both looks good, But I don't know which has better cooling (sound wise). That would make the choice very easy.

 

What shape are you after? They are quite different in that respect. Thicker will usually be quieter.

 

I don't realy care about the shape. The screen size of the P970 is bigger, but also that doesn't matter that much. I'm looking for good cooling, that's all.
If you compare the reviews, it is not much difference in temps, but sound is unclear for me.

 

Id get the 970 ed of those.
The game scores are the same
17 inch screen

And it has more storage even.
Better deal

Im totally not positive the pb15 has more cooling. Here they even have the same CPU and gpu but the 970 ed runs lower temps.

What it is is thicker more air when you look at the heat synch the 970 is way more heavy duty and they end up about the same

 

The PB will have it slightly and the tone is lower so it's less apparent in perception terms.

 

We have reviews so far that say the pb 15 is much louder.....
I don't know I personally run my machine at max fans always but I wear headphones id be fine either way

All reviews show the pb15 has higher CPU temperatures and throttling and thr p960 none. The 2070 max p stays cool it would be even cooler in a 970ef it's totally apparent.

Next look at the heat synch it has 2 fans and 6 pipes. But 2 are illogically connecting the gpu to CPU.... Not cooling but heating the one that's cooler.....

So to make the cheaper heay sync work they have to make the laptop thicker. Or they made it thicker so they can use a cheaper heatsink whatever same thing

Ok 3 fans and 8 pipes and way more copper..... The p9xx has way better cooling.

The pb15 is thicker it has g synch it has more plastic it is marketed with the 2070 to sell a cheaper machine for more no question.

This is a ghost that is a raider meaning to msi this machine should cost 300 more

 

I'll show the picture I took of the 970 heat sink and one they took of the pb15 in the forum it's pretty apparent which is cooler. And next you can see msis two machines are exactly the same way I mean the ghost is not only thinner its cooler too it has 3 fans 8 pipes the ge63 raider is consumer grade higher gpu

 

It's interesting you can say by sight, how did you come to that conclusion?

 

https://prnt.sc/n82183
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/35163064 (cinebench just detect Intel card)
The nvidia card is almost never used not on sector sadly.

 

Sight of the heatsink?
Just thermodynamics the size of it and the 3 fans vs 2. It doesnt take a lot to see which cools more . I mean dont get me wrong
2 fans with more air could cool more than 3 fans with less air you can assume but be wrong . ignore the air and you can assume 3 fans with a larger heatsink cool more and you'll be right. I mean the proof is in numbers like it's weird also you see 3 fans in the p960 but one literally is blowing air into the other and then it blows out.... This could mean the 3rd fan isn't exactly efficient
But there's two reviews non scientific but obvious showing the one with the smaller heatsink also throttles....
You have even the test showing these models with the same equipment that only a minority even buy but they are both the 2060 and the p960 test had better tenperatures

It is wider which helps definitely it has a less heavy duty heat sink with smaller area fewer pipes and one less fan.

Add them together im not positive which is cooler but evidence shows so far the one with the larger heat sink but thinner is cooler

There's pictures of the two here but they are also both in the review videos if you stop frame.

 

Size and number of fans is one thing but depth is quite another, a single fan that's twice as thick with a heatsink to match will have no problems keeping up with two slimmer fans.

 

That and noise is relative.
50dB high pitch is much worse than 55dB with a low pitch.

I think both are decent laptops. Never had a clevo before, but I don’t see anything wrong with it.

 

Could any of you please run a benchmark for me?

I'm mostly interested in the CPU performance. With auto fan speed, highest power limit to CPU.

Download and run Corona Benchmark:
https://data.corona-renderer.com/download/benchmark/corona-1.3-benchmark-win.zip

Use HWINFO64 to monitor, and press the loggin button before running corona executable.


Then upload the .csv log file which was generated by the HWINFO64.
Also the Corona - Copy to clipborad - results.

Bonus: If you could do an audio or video recording with your phone at head distance to hear those 3 AUTO fans during the benchmark, would be absolutely amazing.

Many thanks

 

If this is the same chassis as PB51 that uses normal mobile 2070 - it should theoretically be better since normal 2070 uses more power than anything in P970 chassis. The PB51 with 2070 has larger exhaust vents and larger heatsink fin surface area to dissipate extra heat, so if same exact type of cooling is used in this 2060 version (meaning the 2060 version uses same heatsink with same size and same number of fins as 2070 version) - I would go with that. Of course, fans can have different pitch or type of noise so the best way to compare those chassis is to buy them both and test them in same conditions and return the one that you will like less.

 

Hey somebody knows how to access bios of style note Clevo?

 

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/16076921
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/35218999 full perf with undervolt hugh

With sector always in 5700

 

https://img.techpowerup.org/190407/nvidia-20190407-191533.png
https://prnt.sc/n8q2le showing just sometime

 

What is your question?

Did you try to reinstall the latest NVIDIA driver? Uninstall first using DDU. Also when the NVIDIA is not awake, the GPU and temperature monitor gets disabled, because it runs only the Intel GPU (optimus)

Do you have Clevo Center installed?

On battery (not plugged) of course the machine will be under performing.

 

F2 not showing bios here.
Where to download Clevo Center tool?
I'll try that thanks

 

From your reseller or somewhere like our site.

 

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/16078890 impressive but not the same with 3dmark sadly

 

is there something wrong with your scores?

I dont even remember my timespy
but my firestrike graphics was 18800 with 2070.

So your gpu is showing bugs and barely working but it is working correct is this what youre showing?

Pray its software.

I mean ive never seen that gpuz
Also one ither weird thing is it says schenker not clevo

 

Thanks for your help, my score is 300 points lower than Niblet but on Userbenchmark everything looks good for now fortunately!
I didn't find free firestrike demo.
My cgu works good (on sector) but I don't really know what to do to check it's validity (hwinfo seems to say that it's ok) or where does the concern come from.
I must also find a good backpack because the chassis moves a little.

And what's wrong with Schenker?

 

Did you have the same problem as me?

 

Mr fox has a guide is control something
Then choose from 900 where the line is control lthr hit check it will make the line stay there.

 

I'll check that tomorrow thank you!

 

You want the line to never go above the boost like in my gpu I think its 1500 . nobody didbthisbfor my gpu yet I will have to get back to it.

I did oc scan no undervolt and ingot the record firestrike score on 3dmark so I dont think the undervolt raises the score but ibhavent had time

 

this is a dissasembly of the prevous model



i want to say though the main thing is be careful with those 3 tape wires from the keybaord

 

Yes it pays to be gentle with ribbon cables.