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My understanding is that the temperature differences you're observing are likely to be primarily related to differences in utilisation between cores. e.g. if you run one single-core intensive application then you'd expect that core to get much hotter than the other ones. Seems very common.

 

OK I understand but in my case I use a synthétic benchmark witch load all cores at 100% (OCCT)

 

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Bad repaste job or sligthly warped heatsink. I had 18 degrees difference on my Alienware 15R3...

 

For the alienware 15r3 ( and 17r4) it was a design problem of heatsink. I hope the p970 does not have the same problem...

 

mine just arrived.

I dont have much to say about it other than its really nice.
it is very stiff. it is a bit more grey colored than i expected because I looked at the stealths at frys.
it is all metal except the hinge covers are plastic faux carbon

the lower bezel is quit a bit wider than i expected so even though the sides of the screen measurement is very small the up down measurement is pretty standard

also the keyboard has a numpad.

ill be live for a while updating and hopefully getting a temperature and 3dmark

if anyone wants a test post it here and suggest the software i need to start

mine has just the 250 sata ssd installed so i want to install my 2 pcie ssds i got asap

the screen is outstanding viewing angles best ive ever seen

 

http://www.panelook.com/bramodlist....9&panel_size_inch=1730&resolution_pixels=8180

i wonder why it says 60hz what can i do to test if its 144hz?

it certainly seems to also say its a 60hz panel right?

 

im doing research into this and in actuality this is a 240hz panel now im not aware if the laptop itself can run at 240hz i would like the lcd expert to chime in on this

 

the hinge does not open at nearly as wide an angle as the stealth series do the laptop opens to a very shallow angle actually
the panel says 300 nits but it seems so much brighter than that to me having also used a sharp izgo rated the same on an xps 15 for years

it has a 1200 contrast ratio so far as i know that is the best ive ever seen. I hope i dont sound biased someone earlier said they hate the screen but this is in some ways the best screen ive ever seen it is an ips screen it uses that name whether lg invented it or not in the panellook description

 

Hi stamar,
Can you stress the cpu (OCCT for exemple) and give us temp for each core?
Just 3 min is enough
Thx

 

what software do you want me to use

 

OCCT

 

Thx but I'm interested to know the max temp of each core during a full load. Maybe you can use hwmonitor during the xtu stress test?

 

definitely missing the complete sentences of what youre asking for. i ran 0cct though i ran it 7 minutes so it said one core the max was 84
you want hwmonitor and to then run the xtu stress test

actually the xtu stress test is right there in a complete graph the temperature graph is 80
si during a 5 minute xtu stress test it reached 80 only in a couple spots thats what that says. so the green line when it goes above that blue line is 80

so each core can be turned on inxtu i guess that is package

 

alright i will run 3dmark next

 

OK Thx. It's perfect and very good temp for your p970. I think that I must repast mine... Occt : 90° core 3 and 74° core 6...

 

oh awesome and which is your model did i run it as long as you?

mine is not even though one core is more than the others

it ranges from 76 to 84

I have not repasted mine this is stock brand new today.

where did you get yours why i say is sager does do a stress test which is one advantage of sager but any clevo seller could or could not do the same thing

 

Mine comes from pcspecialist with repasting option with cooler master maker past.
I think I should have refrained...
And I just test during 3 min...with - 0.135V

 

Did you perform an undervolt?
These temperatures are actually very good.

 

yes mine is .125

ok i can do .135 also to reproduce your test
occt 3 minutes and .135 makes sense to do the same test

 

I think -0,125V is pretty standard to keep stability. It can get unstable if you perform more.
On the other hand, you could undervolt the iGPU by a small amount also (-0.050V)

 

same basically

is it always varied or if i repasted would it be lower or more constant of all 6 cores?

i have some thermal grizzly incoming just for the hell of it im going to run occt on my hp elite with the i7600u also undervolted, and im positive it willbe way higher although ive never run this on it before.

just meaning i will repaste that laptop it runs hot its only i think 2 cores however

 

With these temps you don't have to do anything. You will get higher temps in the future because of dust and the paste that will dry.
Untill then, enjoy.

It looks very good. I still have to decide on the P970 or the PB51. The PB51 should have a slightly better screen, but screensize is 15" and laptop is a bit thicker. Should have better cooling though.

 

is there any other machine with this panel?

why i say is my other machine is literally a oled panel and this looks better. its an ips panel with 1200 to 1 contrast i wonder if its in another laptop and we can get a review.

im about to be the first person to take a picture of the inside once i finish a 3dmark test and everything is ok. i have 1 2 tb hp ex950 and a 2 tb intel 660 p

im not sure myself whether or not it is going to be the same as the p960 when i take it off or totally different

 

ha my hp elite made it 9 seconds into the test and had to stop

not a good cpu at all i need to repaste it 100 percent

I got it used and then i read a whole bunch of hate mails from users never to get a 7600u always get a 7500u
doesnt undervolt much either its already done to the u series its terrible dont get a used one either its already burned off all the paste

 

any other tests i should do to verify its all working before i open it up and put the pcie ssds in there?

imo this screen is amazing show me the stats on the auo screen

this is an ads or ips display
BOE NV173FHM-N44

and that one is a tn display this one looks so much better than the ones on the stealth series you can see at best buy its night and day I dont want to sound biased. im going to restart and look for backlight bleed now

 

so far as i know im about to take the first picture on the internet no one else has

i just took pictures of the bios menu its insyde bios

aparently the first clevo with this bios company but its in alienwares etc

it has some options not sure what they do one is gpu scaling or something memory overclocking

the pictures are too large to upload to the forum ill link them later

no significant backlight bleed just some bottom middle

 

Can't wait for my 970en to arrive. Exciting
Nice temps @stamar

 

timespy ?

 

firestrike

 

so my score is past niblets 2060 without any gpu undervolting. for what it matters no idea what the p960 scores are.

 

Your firestrike score is matching Notebookcheck's results:
https://dev1.notebook-check.com/index.php?id=735

 

its exactly the one in notebookcheck but its ahead of the 960ef which makes me think it could be 90w version of the gpu

it isnt its the 80w version

 

Its a major task to take it apart

Its a lot like gentechpc youtube video for the p950.

But there is another slot for a m2 drive and the heatsynch is differents than the p950 which has 2 seperate heat synch

This one is just like the p960

Im not sure if it's different in any way I will do a picture analysis. We have 2 fans and more heat pipes to the gpu yet all the heat is onnthe cpu with 1 fan. Some day when the warranties expire someone should analyze lower ing cpu temp

It is a bit of a pain to take it apart particularly the ribbon cables of the keyboard take some dexterity.
There's are 17 screws
The ram brand for 3000 mhz laptop ram that sager uses is goldkey
It shows up as 3000 in bios.
Im not looking forward to doing it again
Unlocking this bios may or may not be easier than previous clevos
Also this is a clevo bios in my machine not a sager.


One last comment
Sager and xotic dont allow you to buy a 2nd m2 card if your first card is a sata m2

But the machine takes a 2nd pcie card if the first m2 is a sata. It's just their configurator doesnt allow it the motherboard has 1 m b key sata pcie
1 m key pcie and 1 sata only 2.5 interface.

 

With your temps is nothimg wrong. The core i7-8750H just runs hot.
In a lot of laptops the CPU is throttling because it can’t be cooled.

76-84 in 100% stress situation is perfect, did you run cinebench 15?

 

Especially as the chassis biases cooling the GPU.

 

I want to run that test again with max fans on and I dont think I'll exceed 75

I hadn't discovered the fan app yet so the test lets it heat to 80 before it turns max fans on. You can see it in the xtu test I posted earlier it hits 80 early then never again. If I runbthe test with max fans it will never hit 80 I predict

And cinebench and ssd tests

I put a heat synch on my new ssd but I beliebe 2 pcie ssds can increase heat.

Then research the undervolting that the guy with the 2060 did and see if I can get good 3dmark scores

Any in game test that's common?

 

This is the heat synch is it exactly the same as the 960 or is it longer? Is it the same motherboard or new?

So 3 pipes go to 2 fans
2 pipes go to 1 fan
1 pipe it connects the ( hot) cpu to you

So is this 6 pipes? I want to engineer passive heat synch in the bridge between the gpu and cpu just what is used for pcie ssds paste it there literally synch it to the whole bottom metal peice of the laptop
I take it back there is 8 pipes the other one loops to the gpu the gpu is connected to all 3 fans
The cpu is not it crosses the gpu and connects to the gpu

 

P960:


Looks to be the same size as P970. Look on the extra space P970 has on the left side from the 2 fans.

 

4 pipes from the gpu 3 go to 2 fans 1 goes to the cpu fan

Someone should take a thermal picture of which part is hottest

Put one of these on spliced to the fans

https://www.amazon.com/Advancing-Gene-Cooler-Heatsinks-Generation/dp/B077BPPFN8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=ssd+heat+sync&qid=1554222704&s=gateway&sr=8-1&th=1&psc=1

I thought of this as I installed my passive nvme heat synch it lowers ssd temperature like 10 c. The heat pipe connecting the gpu to the cpu is just making one hotter




It seems to simple to me not to have had someone do it already but literally stack copper over the cpu square connected to thd metal back panel with one small pad
Like the carbon pads you buy instead of paste and have the whole back be a passive heat synch
I thiought of this because modern pcie ssds are synched to the back of the panel with a thermal pad.
Theres back panel modification already here of putting foil on the plastic backs of laptops

 

What's gpu performance scaling? Enable or disable?

 

What if it magically turns off max q?

 

same test with fans set to maximum


so the highest it got at 100 percent was 70

and it basically did the whole test with all 6 cores below 50c
is that the coolest 8750 in the world whats going on here?


zigou45

xtu 5 minute stress test. highest temp also 70c most of the test ran at 60c

 

cinebench

 

17804 graphics score

 

https://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_down.asp?lang=en

clevo control center 3.0 i believe i need this for the keyboard and to set the fans to 100 perceng my current utility only goes to 60 percent fans well see

at max fans my cpu temperature could stay below 60c on a whole stress test. i dont know what that helps now maybe i could overclock it now

 

Thanks for that. I ordered a P970 with no drive so I'll need to get that stuff on my own.

 

Enables/disables overclocking options for the GPU.