*** Official Clevo P870TM Owner's Lounge! ***

Download the latest from Nvidia and go from there.

 

Oh, I did that. It laughed at me whole-heartedly. I tried a driver version from December 2016, and it laughed at me too. I'm waiting for version 1709 to finish downloading/installing so it can't be upset with me. That hopefully solves the issue, or I'll just have to install a non-enterprise version of win10pro...

 

Have you tried calling or emailing Sager tech support for help?

 

WinX 1511 did have problems installing the newest Nvidia drivers. This can be mitigated by using WinX 1607+

 

Try the latest one... i have the same problem with 388.13

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I ended up just slipstreaming all the drivers into a version 1709 ISO. Saved the hassle of installing each driver one at a time. It's no big deal to do reinstalls when they take under 10 minutes... ha! Will run some tests in a bit...

 

Show us temps and stuff if you have time.

 

Ahh @Eurocom Support already stated that they're arranging the upgrade kit for previous model. http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...lounge-phoenix-4.809589/page-13#post-10632580

 

I'm still installing software and whatnot, hoping to do some test encodes tomorrow. Below is a bone stock bench from userbenchmarks:

UserBenchmarks: Game 122%, Desk 150%, Work 134%
CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K - 112.3%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080 (Mobile) - 125.2%
SSD: Samsung 960 Pro NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB - 309.4%
SSD: Samsung 850 Pro 1TB - 95.6%
SSD: Samsung 850 Pro 1TB - 99.4%
SSD: Samsung 960 Pro NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB - 265.6%
RAM: Corsair Vengeance SODIM DDR4 2400 C16 4x16GB - 82.9%

I briefly tried some undervolting with XTU, but nothing was sticking off the bat. Running the stock bench through XTU shows max of 4280MHz @88c. I was noticing power throttling, so will have to play with over the break.

 

Any mods like delidding, thermal pasts...?
Odd wasnt able to undervolt or reach a higher turbo stock. Any chance you can check temps/performance on other bench like prime95?
Thanks

 

No mods or delid or any pixie dust. I really just wanted the extra two cores for faster rendering. The electrical in my apartment kind of prevents me from building an i9 rig (15A circuit for entire apt), so this is the best I can do within my power constraints. If I can get at least a stable 4.3Ghz clock, I'll be more than satisfied (once I figure out the the OC software). I'll try and install 3dmark tomorrow after I actually get some work done... I've already stayed up too late messing with this thing...

 

stock of 8700k is 4.3ghz 6 core turbo so chances are its already running it. if you dont have a delided cpu and its a 8700k then you'll need to undervolt and make it stick, best bet is throttlestop then XTU/bios in that order just because how convenient throttlestop is, assuming it already has support of 8*** series processors (you can head to the TS thread and find out).

i know you wanted more cores and just run it at stock not having to deal with heating issue, nowadays the term "stock" has been redefined over and over several times and we can no longer trust intel or OEM. best is to understand how your hardware performs under your own specific workload, never go what others decide for you.

 

kinda disappointed that Metabox in Australia isn't stocking this model yet

 

Isnt best just undervolt in bios? Im not very familiar with those programs but wouldnt like to need a program always running or for my laptop to ever forget my undervolt

 

You can add an ofset in the BIOS if you like.

 

I'll check out the Throttlestop thread, although I dig XTU's simple interface and bouncing back to stock if things don't work right. Here's some basic numbers at stock if anyone is interested with 3dmark and CinebenchR15.038:

TimeSpy Extreme : 3254
TimeSpy : 7217
PCMark 10 Extended: 8020
PCMark 10 : 6167
CinebenchR15 OpenGL : 140.49fps
CinebenchR15 : 1409cb (edit - 1482cb with Throttlestop undervolt/OC @ 4.5 across 6 cores, not consistent due to my setting temp threshold to 82c)

 

depends, if you wish to know your temp after awhile, or if your computer cpu is throttling and still retain control of clocks/voltage then it is necessary to have a software work for you. TS works and settings with stick once applied assuming the CPU is being supported, if people wanted they can simply run it and then turn it off but that would be silly. i have mine running at all time rather than other software like hwinfo or other monitoring software that doesnt have the ability to change anything.

 

Killer config by the way

 

Thanks

I figured with the standard cpu/single gpu, I could get a bit more storage. Hindsight being 20/20, I probably should have went for a third m.2 drive and only one ssd, but I wasn't entirely sure if it had a third slot or not, so I got what I knew would go in (xoticpc's configurator description doesn't mention 3 2280 m.2 slots, while some other resellers do).

I'm being forced to go to my gf's family's house for turkey day, so the plan is stress test the system with a few hours of Assassins' Creed: Origins. So far, so good!

 

The system does have it but we found the configurator was simply overwhelming people.

 

Thanks. +rep
This without delidded Cpu and standard thermal paste? And with what load voltage for 4.5GHz ?

 

Would a 17inch help much with thermals?

Leaning to the 17inch however the 4k screen is more costly to upgrade and im wondering if its worth it. Thank you in advance.

 

Depending on the model it can help, in some cases the thermal solution is the same. The 870TM has a better thermal solution so can be worth it for some people.

 

Oh, I did get the IC thermal paste supposedly? CPU Core/Cache are at -125mV, Turbo rate set at 45 for each core. I'm probably going to keep it down at 4.3 for safety's sake...

 

I know this is a bit dumb but which model would you go with the P775TM1 or the P870TM and why? I also wanted to know if the vapor chamber upgrade is worth it, I don't plan on doing sli but might at a later time.

 

I’m kind of interested in P870TM, but I prefer IPS panels. So if the B173HAN01.2(17.3 Zoll 16:9, 1920x1080 Pixel 127 PPIIPS, Full HD, G-Sync Frequency 120Hz AVHA 72%NTSC 40pin edp ) is able to work well on p870tm or not ？

 

im still deciding myself actually. 775TM1 has 2x M.2 Slot and 1 GPU while 870TM1 has 3x M.2 Slot and 2 GPUs. iirc 775TM1 has a new better shared heatsink so if one is focusing more on CPU cooling rather than GPU power then it is a good buy, 3 heatpipes to 1 fan, 4th pipe to 2nd fan on the GPU. vaper should only come with 870TM though and is probably worth it but donno how it'll work with single GPU, you're better off getting a giant GPU heatsink non vaper but has 2 fans cooling will do just as well.

@Meaker@Sager does the new 775TM or 870TM iGP work? or did clevo leave that out yet again.

 

If u go for p870, even with single GPU - u should take VC.

 

Will see... soon we put into social Networks some Photos and Benchmarks... maybe today evening... i hope yes.

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Thanks for the confirmation. With delidded cpu + Liquid metal and lapping the IHS will probably lower max temp with up to 20C. Afterwards you can expect you can lower core voltage/increase multi a notch due the chips can run with lower temp.

 

That makes sense. It seems like heat from the GPU is forcing my clocks to drop during gaming. Is it wise to to undervolt the 1080 (assuming MSI afterburner works for undervolting)?

 

Same setup.

 

well thats a big shame. hopefully its a new redesign with iGP next yr

 

Heh... i dont think so... but who knows... like in desktop pc

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If it's causing throttling issues you might as well drop the voltages on the 1080

 

clevo plan to reuse the same chassis for 8 core cpu? if so then no iGPU yet again and also if they dont add a new fan it just wont cool it. as for MSI, eurocom F7 not sure what MSI would do in their new design in that laptop with 8 cores and hope it'll work with iGPU.

 

As long cpu temp is below 93C, shouldn't cpu clocks drop.

 

Hopefully MSI decides to go with a MUX switch for their 17" whitebook.

 

yea man honestly we need to put that iGPU to use. even if i have to shut down computer go into the bios to change it and use it, i still want it. so nice can be used as backup.

btw 8 cores confirmed will be on 10nm+ icelake in 1yr. clevo might really not change the chassis at all even with 8 cores cause 10nm+ is a bit more power efficient than 14nm++ during the optimal frequency.

 

It's the reason I went back to M18x. I can get 4 hrs of battery life, my P870DM3 got me 1 hr lol. I agree with the whole backup thing, it's super useful.

I hope Clevo changes chassis

 

1 Hour on the desktop with the DM3? Sounds like something was running in the background as I tend to get 2-3 hours out of it.

 

I normally have most startup items turned off. My absolute best on my P870DM3 was 1 hr 50 min. Absolute best on AW13 R2 ~ 3 hr 30 mins, AW M18xR2 ~ 4 hrs, all using same settings , apps, etc.

Not to mention the way we use them is probably different, I don't turn down brightness, I keep it high, I don't have the display turn off in 1 min, etc.

 

AW13R2 doing less than 4 hours, must be a mistake somewhere that made the power consumption absurd?

 

what i do is dual boot and shut off unnecessary things like leaving only 1 cpu core, all battery saving in windows setting to max, only use iGP and not dGP, toggle wifi on/off, display lowest brightness, bunch of storage slot turned off etc etc, they help. my dual boot option only really there for restoring partition and power outages to watch movies though thats about it.

 

I actually use the computer constantly, at max brightness, wi-fi on, no extra power savings (balanced profile), almost all startup options are turned off except for stuff like sound blaster.

So if everyone is running a magical version of windows please PM

My Macbook air rated for 12 hours got me around 7 hours max, that's a completely different OS and it goes to show my usage on a computer brings out the worse in the battery.

Four hours is actually a good amount for me. But 1-2 hours is completely useless. My friend's AW13R2 gets him 1 1/2 hrs, I have to take a look at what's going on with his.

That would be really annoying for me. My computer should get good battery life under my normal conditions. I shouldn't have to disable all but 1 core, turn down brightness , etc.

I don't like the way manufacturer's are rating their batteries.

 

Just curious but, Is it worth buying an additional battery pack or no? I'm gonna say no sense it appears to be an internal pack vs an external one.

 

Ah I see, that explains why the battery is pretty short lived on yours.

 

To me, not worth it. Unless it had a quick interchangable one like in the P775T1/P751TM1.

 

As long as you test under the same conditions on all models the comparison is fair.

 

iGPU would be awesome on these systems