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Interesting, do you have a link? I couldn't find that promo.

 

You can always wait for better value for tech, you just need to decide when the cost is acceptable to you.

 

Some games are just bad with frame pacing in general, actually. Arkham Knight, not being capable of using SLI, could never give you the microstutter that SLI inherently brings at low FPS. That would just be bad game design.

 

That and some people are more sensitive to frame pacing than others.

 

The video may have exacerbated it as well. Maybe it isn't as severe as it appeared to be, or maybe not at all when not capturing, especially depending on what capture method was used. Some methods are very inefficient compared to others.

 

Some capture methods introduce stutter or choppiness. MSI Afterburner often does for me. But he used shadowplay which is free of those. The capture method is what usually causes issues, not the capture itself.

However, microstutter in video is either in short bursts, maybe a few seconds where shadowplay screws up, or consistent and appears in the video. This bit was the latter kind, so what you saw is what he saw. Actually, what you saw should be worse, because recorded video has perfect frame pacing; it's not rendering real-time. This means his game probably looked worse than what we saw.

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6c in laptop is all i care man, and lots of storage with big display. coffeelake in a new clevo laptop or in this laptop wonder which will come true.

 

Awesome Thank you for the warm welcome. My settings are on "Prefer Maximum Performance" I enabled this as soon as I got the laptop thanks. As for the videos of Deus Ex MD; I have two videos. The video that I linked on to this forum is on max settings including MSAA X8 enabled. MSAA X8 makes my FPS drop like mad. I have another video on my YouTube channel of Deus Ex MD on max settings but with MSAA X8 disabled. If you watch this video you will see that I'm getting over 100FPS on actual gameplay. Also Deus Ex is poorly optimized so this does not help. I only purchased the game to make my system squeal By the way I love your YouTube videos pal. Thanks for sharing.

Deus Ex MD on max setting with MSAA disabled:


P.S The fans are set to auto not full. I will make more videos soon with fan statistics on. I really did some serious prep work before I added the thermal pastes and pads on.

Thank you for the advice bud. But I'm wanting 3X 1440P G-sync high refresh rate screen's for different agendas. You see, on low graphical demanding games I will use all the screens with Nvidia surround. On high graphical demanding games; I will only use one screen. Also having three 1440P screen's has still got a bigger work area compared to one 4K screen. I have put a lot of thought on to this setup. I'm wanting it future proof too. I understand that everyone has different tastes and a lot of computer users are going for 4K! but on my laptop I only have 1.3 DisplayPort's, so the laptop can only handle 3840 x 2160 (Ultra HD/4K) 120Hz @ standard dynamic range. So 144Hz is no good for me. Thanks for the thought though. I will keep you updated when I test 3X 1440P 144Hz G-sync screens on the P870KM... That's "IF" it works lol.

Thanks for the heads up buddy. I misunderstood between the signature box and my profile information box. It's sorted now. I would have not known if you didn't inform me. Cheers.

Correct Deus Ex MD is a poorly optimized game. I also had MSAA X8 on! that's what killed my system. Here is the same game on another one of my videos, without MSAA on. I'm clearly getting some decent FPS.

 

^ auto fans? More confirmed live in freezer

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His ambient temp is pretty normal. Not all that low. (look at the CPU min.)

Pretty similar to what my temps are like.

 

But auto fans 99% gpu usage in sli with ok cpu usage auto fans getting like... So cool

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lol. I will do a longer video of some stress tests on the CPU soon and then post the videos on here and on my YouTube channel with my ambient room temperature. My prep work on the heatsinks are a work of art ;-)
I am now working on a thermoelectric peltier mod. Coming soon...

 

You need to watch this pal

 

screenshot

 

Pickhurs of the heat sink work bruh.

 

Great to see your specs in your signature ... but please see Signature Size Limits section of the forum rules at http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/forum-rules.109941/. You will see that you have gone a bit overboard with them.

Also, I don't mean to be a "Politeness Nazi", but telling people they need to do or watch something borders on flaming...as does throwing out 'pal' in a way that seems a bit sarcastic. We appreciate politeness and prefer this to be a friendly forum.

It is great to have your contributions to the community, please just keep it friendly and respectful.
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Odd, I didn't sense any ill-intent with his post. Granted, tone is hard to convey over text, he seemed like he was jokingly referring to the "freezer" remark by showing a video done by Linus (the bane of my tech existence sometimes) doing a build in a fridge. Granted, I am certainly no shining example of good, as I spent my first few days on this forum arguing in this very thread, lol.

 

Don' forget NBR's "unofficial" SOFTWARE UPDATES thread. You will find a few good benchmarks. + much more No need for videos Screenies tell more than words

 

Really sorry about the word pal. It probably because i'm in England and we throw the word around a lot.

I did go over the limit on my signature description but the forum implementation stopped me and told me there was a limit. So I shrunk it down to the forum acceptable level.

As for me asking people to watch a video is just a way to socialize in a forum. I thought forums are for debating that's all. I thought about the approach about the fridge video before I posted it, hence why I added a smiling face

I hope this helps on your understanding and that my defence in this situation does not come at you in an aggressive way as I think you are really doing good in this forum. Best of luck and thank you for the advice.

And sorry @ Donald@HIDevolution if my approached you ill mannered. I surely did not mean it that way.
Best regards.

 

I'm sorry what is "Pickhurs". I do not understand.
Best regards.

 

All good. Start throw out those benchmarks. And please no videos of benchmarks Pict is more than enough

 

Images, photos, Pictures. Still captures etc.

 

Linus did not do it the right way. I watched that video a while back and laughed because all of the heat is trapped inside of the fridge and it would also contribute to condensation.

He should have used a portable AC unit. A number of us do this with our laptops (have been for several years now) and it is truly amazing.

I uploaded this video to my YouTube channel back in 2012... still using the same setup today.

 

No worries...thank you for your most gracious reply!
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we gotta get a custom table to use that 24/7, thats what i'd do & run it at 10C blowing below it and clock it to 5.5ghz foreverRRRRRRRRRRRR

 

Yeah except if you watched the video he pretty much explains why using a consumer fridge doesn't work and if you wanted to do something like that then you'd either need an industrial fridge that is capable of running the compressor 24/7, use an air conditioning unit, or go with phase change cooling solutions.

So both of you are literally making the same point...

 

Yes, he did point that out. I thought it was odd he actually tried to use that little fridge. He must have had too much spare time on his hands, LOL.

 

Even if a household fridge were able to run the compressor 24/7, it'd be a lost cause trying to fight the kind of wattage any respectable computer would put out.

 

Refrigerators are not very cold in most cases and do not instantly output cold air. It takes a long time to get the air inside of one cold and it takes time to recover if you leave the door open for too long. Not to mention the lack of air movement. Even back when @cookinwitdiesel was benching in a chest freezer, he used a fan to move the frozen air around. Just being inside of a cold box doesn't do that much.

 

I think it's just a question that gets asked a lot and he wanted to disprove it using what most people have access to. Plus he does do a lot of random videos for the hell of it so that could have played into it as well.

Fridges aren't designed for that, even the ones that have compressors that run 24/7. They're too slow to react because they're designed to handle small variations in temperature not the large variances between idle and load for a computer.

If you were really looking to do that kind off cooling it's far more practical to get a portable ac or use a phase change solution. Since the latter is kind of impractical for laptops you're left with the former.

 

there is special deal this week on 780W AC Adapters - check this out:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/780W-AC-Adap...112289150008?ssPageName=ADME:L:EOISSA:CA:1123

 

idk if it is right place - anyone have ICC screen profile for LGD046e - so far found for LGD046c, LGD046d, LGD046f (if anyone need)

 

I ordered one on Sunday, still hasn't shipped. Also im guessing this is because a newer revision is coming in?

 

newer version? I didn't know that

 

I dont see any other reason for a price drop then tbh

 

Maybe to help them get more recognition for this awesome product and create more demand for it. The original price is too high for some people, especially if they have not identified how much better it is than a dual 330W setup. Once you have one and experience the difference, the value is there and easier to recognize even if the price is higher than you would like it to be. For the sake of convenience alone it's a great option to have.

 

Great video and music
That's a great idea too. I thought about it once in the past and thought that the condensation would have damaged the internals. But by the looks of it, it works. I love watching experiments like this! thank you.

 

Thanks. And, you're welcome.

If you live in a humid area and do an extended benching session it is a good idea to periodically check for condensation. Most of these portable AC units have an integrated dehumidifier feature. In the 5 years I have been benching on AC I have never found any condensation from using it, but I still check periodically just to be on the safe side. And, in that same time period I have always lived in a very dry desert region.

 

Agreed, i think the price was a bit too high for mass adoption. This is soooo much more convenient than 2 x 330W Bricks, and entirely avoid the hassle of dealing with the loose AC200/AC100 adapters.

 

30 CELSIUS DROP AFTER thermal grizzly conductonaut, I am not sure if the cpu heatsink was not hitting right or what... how can a paste make that much of a different... oh man


im getting 67 celsius max now instead of 97, and im at 3.9ghz all 4 cores no downclock.


gpu dropped 20 celsius as well.... and its boosting to 2ghz.... wow... I think Clevo just didnt sit the heatsink right or something... i have no freaking idea... all i know is that my temps are amazing now after grizzly... omg guys.... omg rofl this is the most insane thing i have ever experienced in my entire life, i was expecting 5 celsius max...

 

Eh I've found it to be a very good product, certainly, but $500 is still pretty high, especially considering that the dual 330W brick solution is about $300 or less. That aside, a new revision would be great.

The brick has a way it makes a whirring noise (that I once mistook for coil whine because it confused the living daylights out of me) when it gets a bit warm or gets under load. It's extremely hot at idle (70W or less) and when under moderate loads (100W-300W let's say) it's actually much cooler than it is at idle. The problem is that in normal PC usage it tends to spin up the whine noise and spin it down, repeatedly, as the system's usage changes. It'll spin up and down consistently when I watch youtube videos and then switch off from it to just text chat windows being up, etc. I would say that I don't mind the noise when it's spun up, but the spinning up and down of it is very annoying. A new model where the spin up/down feature happens less frequently (or if the machine keeps it on at a very low level once the PSU passes about 50W; since the machine being on generally pulls a near-steady 70W readout from it, it'd prevent it making noise if the PC is asleep or anything with that threshold) would actually be rather welcome.

 

yeah apparently the laptop is quite hot, I didnt expect to be this hot tbh.
even when idle its usually 45c+

 

I believe it's actively cooled so that's likely the fan.

 

Edit: For some reason this thing put me 1 month ago when I opened it, so... umm... ignore this? Seriously, I'm not deleting it because I went through the trouble of typing it but... ya'll don't need to check this xD

Spoiler: stuff that's old

Is your CPU delidded? Are you using max fans and undervolting it or using a lower static voltage?

I just played for about 15 minutes so the temps level off and this is what I ended up with using 4.4GHz and stock GPUs, with the game maxed at 1080p with SLI on:



For some reason this game doesn't hold 300fps for me. The GPUs even clock down as you see; I don't know why. Could be RAM, could be needing PCI/e 3.0 x16/x8 at the minimum, I couldn't tell you. Raising the render resolution from 100% to 150% actually simply bumps my GPU load and doesn't reduce my frames at all. I then OC'd the CPU to 4.7GHz with 150% render amount and it didn't even hit 80c after another few minutes.

According to the thermometer inside, it's a nice cold 28°C (82.4°F) right now when I did the test. I don't have the GPUs repadded yet and the CPU is delidded, but no shim or anything used. ICD paste; I put a good deal of it on. Max fans, machine ever so slightly propped up (but to me I don't believe the amount I did makes much difference). The system needs a bit of a cleaning though, I don't have anything to blow the dust out with yet (I usually have but I'm currently out) so temps are a bit higher than normal. I'd have even less CPU usage if my RAM was at 3000MHz too.

I don't know how you're hitting 85c unless your CPU needs a repaste, undervolt and delidding (or some combination of the three).

In fact, here, I took a test using stock voltage:


Lot of extra heat on stock voltage, passed onto the GPUs as well. It seems to be cooler using an undervolt and higher resolution % for the game, actually. But still, no component 85c. It's also hotter now (when I ran the test).

Edit #2:

That definitely, 100% isn't the fan. I have looked at the fan multiple times and it simply does not spin until well over 400W. I have zero idea what black magic Eurocom did with this thing, but there is a "fan-like noise" that spins up which cools down the PSU that is not the fans visible from the backside of it.

 

I think My Gpus are running hotter than yours cause im pushing them a little more than you are. I am running at 2560x1440 with render scale of 150% this gives me about 180-200FPS. I see your Gpu usage is around 50%60 in that picture. When mine stay up in the 95%-98% on both. since the GPUs get that warm I am guessing that can also be the cause the CPU gets warm too... since gpu heatsink dumps a bit of heat to my CPU.

I got a 7700k running at 4.5 on all cores. static voltage of 1110. CPU is delidded. WHen i run Aida 64 stresstest my max cpu temps are around 85c and when I play overwatch my PEAK cpu temp is about 85c but stays around 79-82c
If i Cap the FPS to display based ( i think it cappes them to 130) Fps then gpu stays at around 82c

 

Yeah that would do it, however you could probably (definitely) lower your voltage. 1.05 gets me 4.4 (not tested less) and 1.1 gets me 4.7. 1.111 for 4.5 might just be excessive.

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Interesting... I will mess with this a little bit more. Whats your core voltage offset when using static voltage? Do you just leave the voltage offset to 0?

I have mine set to -70 and static voltage of 1110

 

Offset 0, static 1.05v on core/cache (test with throttlestop, copy to bios later). I heard 1.05 was good for 4.6 so I'm slowly moving to 1v testing for 4.4

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Okay let me give that a shot. I have never tried 0 offset so maybe that will allow me to go as low as 1005