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    *** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. Tony Palmer

    Tony Palmer Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah I saw this also he refused to try solutions and did an RMA. I've e-mailed asking for a direct model number and to complain they've not give warning for a three week delay and 4k screens. I'll not get my laptop for weeks now and I'm in process of selling my current octane II so I'll be without a computer.I really hope its incorrect pictures as I did read somewhere people saying the clevo models for 1080 needed a different mobo to the ones for 1060/70
     
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    Indeed im also waiting to hear back to see if they will stock 120Hz screens. My guess is they dont have the answers. Ive dealt with them before and customer service can be a bit hit and miss. but as previously stated either here or in another thread, there has to be a compromise somewhere when their prices are that much cheaper than elsewhere.
     
  3. Tony Palmer

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    I'm currently commenting on there as hewhoist I'm not massively impressed how they are dealing with my order tbh but they see cheapest so I'm willing to a little frustration. They don't do 120hz yet I asked that a week ago. They didn't say whether they planned to stock them either I've opted for 4k but that's caused a delay of 3 weeks
     
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    Remember that you get what you pay for. Clevo systems are generally well built and reliable but you want to have good support in the event something goes wrong. If a company is hit and miss in its own support forum, that would be concerning.


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    Z3us_PL Notebook Consultant

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    Hello P775DM3 owners :p. I.ve got P775DM1 and I'm consider about change to a new model. I have concerns about new fans. Many users say that this Clevo is very Loud at full fan speed. Could you record short movie with Fn+1 fan noise and put on YT? I would compare it with my "old" :p model. Thanks
     
  6. Tony Palmer

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    still waiting for them to confirm the octane III is actually the P775DM3 thinking of switching orders to another supplier if they don't get in touch soon.
     
  7. Z3us_PL

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    A few months ago I've recorded this video, with my daily settings i5 4x4Ghz, uV -145mV and wPrime 1024 test (thermal paste: Grizzly kryonout. Temp and fan noise are very gentle. I turn Fn+1 on 4:04 to show the difference. I spoke polish in this video but everything is on Hwinfo.

     
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  8. i_pk_pjers_i

    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    Clevo fans are always going to be loud at full fan speed, they always have been and always will be. It's actually a good thing, that way you get full performance and don't throttle.
     
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    sirana Notebook Deity

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    Unless you are missing Prema magic ;)
     
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    Did you by any chance order off dreammachines.pl? If so, how was dealing with them? Would you recommend them?
     
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    Actually, I hope that the uploaded pictures are just placeholders. Asked them on chat and they replied that Octane III is built on P775DM3-G.
     
  12. Blacky

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    The P775DM3 doesn't have an optical drive correct?
     
  13. sirana

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    I believe it indeed doesn't.
     
  14. Tony Palmer

    Tony Palmer Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah that's what I was hoping it was. I asked on chat also a few days ago but the person speaking didn't know. I've since emailed but with it being bank holiday I figured no one is working today. I've emailed asking if I can have my laptop sent to me with the stock ips 1080 screen and then have the 4k screen sent later for self install as my own laptop is due to be sold tomorrow and I'll be without a working computer for almost a month which isn't suitable
     
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    anyone who's already got their systems and had them for a few days got anything else to add? I know a few said undervolting slightly had caused reduced temps? anything else to add about the system itself chassis etc? waiting for a really good review of these machines
     
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    ok, they aren't quiet, I meant what kind of noise they emiting. If it has high frequency sound like dryer then this is bad. Maybe in my 4x4ghz video, my phone's microphone piks this noise incorrectly. I dont have "dryer effect", maybe just a little 1% "dryer" :p on full fan speed. I wonder if they change fans to smaller with rare fan blades + they runs on 12V oposit to 5V in my older model, how this reflected on the emitions.

    Here are the emisions on 4x4,5 Ghz. full throtlle :p on 5:13. (no delidding, Prema bios)



    I can tell virtually only good things about Dream Machines. I was negotiating with them price by e-mail while changing configuration many times, so they are very patient. They CEO is Craig Martus, He is a former MSI managing director. Very capable person, He takes over my order when Clevo began to have problems with finalizing it. He helped me with every doubt that I had. Furthermore they are officially support Premas bios. I can definitely recommend them
     
  17. Tony Palmer

    Tony Palmer Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm curious as the changes to the fans? what difference will a 12v fan make over the 5v from the previous model? saw people saying the cooling system had been reduced wonder if this is accurate?
     
  18. Z3us_PL

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    They can spin faster on 12V? :p
     
  19. sirana

    sirana Notebook Deity

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    Am I seeing this wrong, or do you really have such great temps? You get below 80°C with a 50mv OVERvolt, at 4.5Ghz?

    In the other video, you get around 65°C max at 4Ghz, with a -140mv UNDERvolt?

    Both temps are amazing, if I read it correctly. Those were stress tests, right? Which put the CPU @100% load? Which thermal compound did you use, or what is pre-pasted? Damn my trigger finger is so ready :rolleyes:
     
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  20. Miguel Pereira

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    Is there a big difference between the heat an i5 and an i7 generates at full load?
     
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    I'll have mine tomorrow. Won't get a lot of time with it until the weekend, but if you have any specific questions or info you'd like to know, feel free to ask and I'll answer them as soon as I can. Same goes for anyone else interested in buying one.
     
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    This might be a silly question, but why are a 17.3" and 15.6" shoved into the same owner's lounge?

    Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P
     
  23. sirana

    sirana Notebook Deity

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    That is actually a valid question, I wondered about that too. I guess it follows old habits, as the previous DM(1) series followed almost the same structure, with the difference being that now the new 17.3" model gets named first.

    **Official Clevo P75xDM and P77xDM/Sager NP9758-G and NP9778-G "Batman 2.0" Owner's Lounge**
     
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    So here's a question, does anybody know if the Samsung 4K display in the P75xDM2 is the same pentile one that shipped with the P65xSx


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  25. Medivh

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    Hi everyone.

    I've ordered P670RP6 and now I'm about to change it into P775DM3 (both with 1060). Do you know how they compare in terms of volume during load? I saw few posts in polish notebookcheck forum (nhl.pl) where some stated that P6*0RP6 is working like a dryer - few gave theirs models back.
    The price for my config doesn't differ much between both and I'm going to use it at home all the time. I'm not playing much, just preordered Witcher 3 GOTY edition to play some. Therefore I wasn't interested in top graphic card. I didn't have such equipment before, so your oppinions are important to me.
    Do you think it may be possible in the future to buy 1070 card and upgrade my config if needed? As far as I'm concerned P773DM(3) has MXM version of 1060 :)
    One more thing is bios, my reseller seems to avoid answering question about Prema bios. Is it possible to buy bios software from Prema for this model?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  26. steberg

    steberg Notebook Evangelist

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    Once I disabled the XTU-service that Hotkey installed behind my back, the fan profiles are now working better. Also after my repaste with gelid extreme I'm seeing great temps on my P751DM2. So I guess that the new cooling system is doing it's job! Also Windows 7 is working fine on this system.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Yes, this is "wPrime 1024M" test, more "real life" 100% Cpu stress test than prime95 in my opinion. I used Grizzly Kryonaut thermal compound. This is i5 6600K and can be the difference a few degrees (4core/4threads opposite to 4c/8t in i7). I chose i5 because when you overclocked, there is very tiny fps difference between i7 in games and temps are slightly lower. Whole cooling system in P775DM1 is very pleasant :p. So this is why I have worries about new cooling system in new P775. What emissions have new fans ("dryer effect")? Why they shortened heatpipes? How this affect to cooling capacity compared to old model?
     
  28. Ashtrix

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    Any info on the ESS Sabre would be cool, So far absolute darkness regarding this HiFi DAC chip.
    The GPU choice is entirely your decision to make, to help you with have a look at the Notebookcheck.net Pascal benchmarks the 1060 is 25% faster than 980M given that Clevo used all xx60,xx70,xx80 with same power connectors, form factors this time. So considering the upgrade yes but with some caveats.

    The cooling might change so heatsink might be an issue when you are trying to upgrade to 1070, Yeah you can buy the heatsink later but Why would you want to waste cash on investing in 1060 and drop a 1070 later because the prices would be high and selling the 1060 would be hard too..Prema sBIOS I think he's not making any public release anytime soon first his partner shops come then followed by a public release if it happens (he used to have public releases but some one tried to copy his work and claim his causing him to put a hold on public releases but the vBIOS might be released soon although again Prema Partner shops first)

    If you don't plan on gaming a lot but want reliable and cool performance go with the GTX 1070, 1060 doesn't have SLI also just a lil bit higher than 980M (OCd 980M could get to the 1060 levels), the 1070 should have SLI connector and holds resale value imo if you want to upgrade to 1080 later.
     
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    I'm more interested in fan noise than gpu upgrade, but I asked about upgrade to know my real possibilities. Ashtrix, thanks for your valuable info. I bought my config in shop which is not placed on the partner list and I'm aware that such a great as Prema's work should be rewarded. Therefore I'm willing to buy bios software from Prema, however it seems that it's not possible.
     
  30. Tony Palmer

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    Thank you. Which spec machine have you ordered?
     
  31. sirana

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    Ah, I heard about that! If you get an i7 and disable hyperthreading (then it's also 4 cores 4 threads), would you get the same temps at the same clocks as an i5? Only the virtual cores cause overhead and additional unnecessary heat, right?

    I really hope that the P775DM3 is similar in cooling capabilities, and just heatsinks were maybe a bit uneven in the first units shipped out...
     
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    I have never seen such test, but maybe someone who has i7 6700K could perform such experiment.
     
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    Just confirmed with PCS that the Octane III is P775DM3-G with mini DP.
     
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    Thanks for the update DRevan, this really helps me a lot with deciding which laptop to purchase
     
  35. Tony Palmer

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    great news! even more so that we'll hopefully be able to upgrade to kabylake on the 1151 socket
     
  36. Tony Palmer

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    Are you thinking of this model with PCS?
     
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    Yes more than anything because its a lot cheaper than i can get with any other Clevo re-sellers. I have had issues with their customer service in the past but if i want a 1080 with a 6700k processor for under £2000 its my only option even if i sacrifice on only a 1080p 60Hz screen. The way i see it, want this laptop to last a number of years so keeping the screen specs down a little will allow me to run at higher graphics quality in games for longer.

    My last laptop from PCS is still going, though it has needed two replacement graphics cards that was more at fault with the ATI 6990M than anything else. Since its had a 580M its been ok touch wood.
     
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    Just heard back from Xotic and my P775DM3 will be here mid to late next week!
     
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  39. Tony Palmer

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    I got my last laptop from them no issue but wasn't impressed when told it wouldn't be able to handle the next gen processors or gpu's. So I'm the same the only way I can get the specs I want is with PCS and I've taken a 1080p screen to upgrade further along to the 4k but I may wait a slight while see the progress on 120hz screens. Their customer service today was great but it took 10 days multiple calls and emails to get to that point which is a shame. They do quality work but just need to back it up
     
  40. Tony Palmer

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    good luck :D hope for some nice in-depth reviews for the rest of us waiting
     
  41. droidmahn

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    Expect the usual set of Windows benchmarks. Soon as that's out of the way it's getting wiped and having Arch installed. Then expect a boat load of Linux benchmarks lmao
     
  42. Tony Palmer

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    haha that's fine hoping for some personal thoughts and reviews not just bench's and some pictures! actual pictures of them haha
     
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    Just ordered a P750DM2-G as barebones as possible with GTX 1070 from HIDevolution to jump from the P750DM-G chassis. Has anyone received one with a GTX 1070?
     
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    Just read the MSI GT73VR review, and their screen is great. It would be really something if the p775 used the same screen... No news on this yet, I guess?
     
  45. Tony Palmer

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    I'm pretty sure earlier in this thread someone ordered a clevo with the 1070 not sure whereabouts it was
     
  46. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    If anyone has received one of these little beasts with a 1080p yet?

    Would you be able to tell what sort of OC you can get on the panel please?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  47. steberg

    steberg Notebook Evangelist

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    I got my P751DM2 with 1070 last friday, check my sig for specs. I also uploaded some pictures and screenshots earlier in this thread.

    3Dmark 11 pure stock;
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11538533
     
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    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    If you have the 1080p gsync screen could you please tell me if it's default Hz is 60 or 75hz?
    Also if you are able to get 100hz via Nvidia Control Panel..?
     
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    So true, I am going with PCS as they are also cheaper, about £200 cheaper for an equivalent Mysn/XMG/Schenker laptop with 3 year gold warranty (2 year collect & return, 2 year parts, 3 years labour) added on top. I just hope they will supply AUO 1440p 120Hz displays in the near future.
     
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    CaerCadarn Notebook Deity

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    Everytime I try to reach their Homepage, I get an error message that it isn't accessable:

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