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Talking of UK, do you guys have an outlet (online variety) for UK as well? I had a look at the US website before I bought my machine and well, import duties, shipping etc were cost prohibitive so I had to pass.

 

Whoa!

It's good to know that not all countries are like Romania, but in Romania the state protects it's consumers to the point where you can sue a seller if they don't honor their prices. We also have a 14 day returning period for good, which is great!

 

in Dubai we have a 0 day return policy! once you buy it, it's yours........ the only reason that the vendor can give you a refund if it's DOA not because you simply don't like it after you buy it

count your blessings for living in Romania........

 

Costs are coming down thanks to the exchange rates but no outlet in the UK.

 

Have you ever sued anyone? The cost and hassle of a lawsuit is rarely worth it unless your dispute is over several thousand dollars.

 

There is such a thing as a small claims court which is a lot less formal and expensive in these parts but it's still not super simple.

 

At least if the seller inform you that the price is wrong before you make the order, and not wait for you to pay and after that warn you just to make you buy with them.
Believe it, that's pretty common here. That's why government and regulatory orgs need to help customers in my country.

I prefer not to deal with this kind of people.

 

It's not needed to sue them directly, you file a report to consumer's protection in Romania. Those guys are way more brutal than any lawsuit as the local laws offer them a lot of authority in any kind of sales.

At any rate, if you proceed and make a payment for a product and they don't deliver for the money paid, it is normal for a bigger authority to be dragged in, Romanian buyers are not as nice as other countries. We live in a country where the minimum wage is 300$ after all....

 

Whoa!

You must be having a really fun time then!

As about return policy, I would had expected Dubai to have a 30 or even 90 days return policy! No idea why it's so long in there! Well, we Romanians can't really afford to make mistakes due to our very bad minimum wages and economy so the state takes things in it's own hands and protects the people like a well fed robocop on steroids!

 

I bought my p775dm3 with 1080 and 4k monitor from AVA. I love it , it was the best price and they shipped it quick and have amazing customer service. Every time i emailed them they emailed right back. And i got gears of war 4 free after i saw the next day they offered it for free. I told them it was my b day and they said sure we will throw the game in and i got rainbow 6 free too with the nvidia gtx purchase program too

 

so it seems like with 1.06.04 bios and 1.06.02 EC, the CPU throttling is much better, just tried 3dmark and got no throttling , only thing i noticed tho is that it seems that the "overclock fan" profile isn''t working anymore or at least isn't as agressive as before, before RMA i had 1.05.03 bios and EC and it activated quite quickly. Notebook is much quieter and therefore hotter than before and sadly this model have quite some coil whine . @Adbear @Prema @D2 Ultima @Mr. Fox , maybe i will crosspost the overclock fan question over at the OC thread, have CCC 5.0001.1.104 installed right now. Schenker delivered CCC 5.0001.1.1a or something like that with 1.06 bios pack and it didn't worked(?) there either.

 

I think with the internals this machine has, one has to pick either quiet or good temperatures. Though, in my personal experience, raising the machine off the table surface helps with both.


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Usually the tweaker finds the balance they are happy with. That's just one of the limits of packing so much hardware into such a small space.

 

My AVA rep, Kyle, also dropped off the face of the earth. Before he was hounding me to finalize my order and suddenly... Poof!
Weak mr. Mizer, very weak. As if I have the attention span of a goldfish and would forget about it.

Not even the common decency to tell me the truth. What is the world coming to.

Anyway, ordered with BTO now, Dutch company, where I got my last two Clevo's from. No Prema bios but top notch service.

 

Is core overclocking allowed for the P750DM2-G? I have a Eurocom X4E2 and was just curious- Afterburner only seems to allow memory overclocking, which won't impact performance much. Can anyone speak to their results if they did OC core successfully?

**NVM- it was a driver issue. Resolved.

 

Hi guys,

So I had a scenario that really baffled me at the weekend, as the P75XDM2-G model has 2 x Mini DP and 1 x HDMI I tried connecting up 2 external monitors at 1080p:

1st time:

1x Mini DP and 1x HDMI

2nd time:

2 x Mini DP

When plugging in the external displays once I attached the second display the laptop would freak out and either turn to a black screen and / or freeze.....

Does anyone have any suggestions as I thought you could easily do two outputs if not three?

*I checked in Bios and the DDI was set to mDP* - Not Thunderbolt which I know could of caused problems.

Thanks in Advance !

 

I've been agonizing over whether to buy the Clevo P750DM2-G or MSI based 16L-G and thanks partly to the help here have finally decided to go with the P750 from HIDevolution. It's such a close battle I think but I was finally won over by the extra storage, port placement and superior DAC. Plus I've always had great experiences with Clevo. It would be nice to have a 1080 in a 15 incher but quite frankly I think the 1070 will be quite sufficient. I did go for the 120Hz screen option though! I'm hoping to return the valuable help on these pages once I receive it and also to thoroughly put it through it's paces checking thermals etc. It's my first purchase with HIDevolution but you guys seem to like them so here's hoping...

 

According to @Prema he's surprised no one tried putting a 1080 in a P750...which means it is possible. I have the MSI 16L with a 7700K/1080 and I LOVE it but if someone would loan me their P750 for a test when I get my P775DM3 in, I would love to try changing out the GPU's.

EDIT: Actually, I wonder if the 1080 in my Tornado F5 aka MSI 16L13 would work in the P750DM2...hmmm.

 

I've been a bit surprise that someone hasn't tried the 1080 in the p750 too, and speaking of the p750, is there any drastic difference in the cooling solution?
I've been fighting with myself as to if I will get the 750 or 775.

 

1080 in P750DM2
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scussion-thread.794965/page-135#post-10328921

@metaldemon95 @Rage Set

 

According to Obsidian-PC, they are getting QHD panels by the end of February => "We will only get the QHD 120hz around the end of February, the only information we have from CLEVO about this screen is: upgrade to QHD TN 120Hz NVSR panel". They say that is in the only info in the catalogue Clevo sent to them. Does anyone know about the model number, or is it this AUO TN QHD panel with banding guys?

 

Very interesting. Now I have to wonder why no reseller has though of producing a few of the P750DM2's with a 1080. The secondary question is if these are limited to 150w like the one in my Tornado F5. If it isn't, then that will be amazing.

Looking at the information, that thing is running very hot. It is throttling like crazy. I think I'm going to pickup a barebones P750DM2 and see where it goes.

 

Hey guys, I'm a new Sager NP9152 Owner and having some problems...
When connecting an external display or TV I get a very noticeable stutter in all games. This stutter isn't there when using the built in display. Oddly enough, it goes away if I use mirror display mode however this introduces horrible screen tearing on both screens.

Anyone else with this laptop have this issue? Not sure if its just my machine or there's something wrong with all of 'em. Pretty bummed that this machine is having this issue. Bought it through Xotic PC. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Main Specs:
i7-7700K 4.2Ghz
GTX 1070
48GB RAM

 

What display and what connection are you using?

 

I've tested it with a fairly new Apple Cinema Display with thunderbolt and a Samsung Plasma with hispeed HDMI both having same issue.

 

Do you have G-sync on your internal display? Have you tried turning it off?

 

Yep I've tried turning off Gsync and Vsync - Same problem

 

What if you disable the internal panel?

 

Yep tried that. Disabling the internal panel still produces the same stutter. Gsync on or off doesn't matter. Been trying to figure this out for a few hours now and nothing seems to work.

The only thing that gets rid of the stutter is mirror mode but like I said, bad screen tearing is introduced on both screens. smooth but really bad tearing. All displays have the same refresh rate too (60hz)

Using the internal panel alone is buttery smooth but as soon as hook up an external, there's stuttering.

 

What if you change the nvidia power profile from optimal power to maximum performance?

Are you on the latest Nvidia drivers?

 

Yep I've tried setting power profile to optimal performance. I probably should mention I've also tried setting the multi-display/mixed-gpu to performance. Also read somewhere that maybe setting maximum pre rendered frames to 1 might help. ...Nothing :-/

I'm pretty sure I running the latest drivers: 378.66

 

Please install 376.54

This is the current version that I'm using and it is stable for an external display. With Nvidia, newer is not better - almost never.

Other advice I might have is displaying only on the external display - this usually helps,

I had my external monitor disconnect a few times, but it's solid stable for most part. I did get some frame drops while for example:

Playing dota2 and doing alt+tab with chrome.

If I click on the right down side to clear everyhing and empty desktop, then click on dota2 to rise from the bar, there is no frame drop.

If I just alt+tab, sometimes there is a frame drop.

 

The reason is...Clevo won't warranty it. You see the throttling, and the heat...which is most probably why.
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Heat wise, 1080 barely works in P775, I find it normal that Clevo won't want to risk warranties with a P750 + 1080. That is no excuse tho, they should invest in better cooling, better cooling solutions and better hardware in general - the fact that it throttles there doesn't mean that it can't be engineered to be better.

What would be a solution is to implement fins - more and thinner fins so the heat dissipation to air grows considerably and the heatpipe heat retency is minimal.

They should also put better fans in there - larger fans and fans that are more silent. There is no real excuse for any of their decisions - I do understand that they had their reasons to go with the things they went with, but there is a lot of space to improve. I'm not unhappy as those are the cheapest and most performant option by far but this should never be an excuse to do a sloppy job. I still have 1 dead pixels on my display. On a 2000$ laptop. This is unacceptable from my point of view.

 

I recently got prema bios installed on my P775DM3(-G) with 6700k and 1080, I'm wondering if anyone can help me with some overclocking settings? Has anyone got this to run overclocked without throttling back down when CPU and GPU are active? Seems stable at 4.5ghz with -60 vcore but throttles back down to 4 when I run anything that stresses both cpu and gpu (got all the wattage limits up to 300 and amp limits maxed out). Also it seems to be running at 4.5 while idle even though I have all the speed step and c state stuff turned on?

 

which reseller did you buy it from and who installed the Prema BIOS for you?

 

I bought it from Dream Machines in January, I think they are the only EU prema partners. Bios wasn't ready at the time though so they installed it over team viewer for me last week. I don't have the vbios installed yet though, they are still waiting for that from prema.

 

VBIOS is very tricky on the 10XX GTX Series as it's very locked down and has some security stuff that doesn't allow modified BIOS flashing but Prema will crack it soon

first off, -60mV is too much of an undervolt for 4.5 GHz on all cores. I would suggest a -40mV for a 4.5 GHz overclock, if it overheats, then choose a -70mV undervolt but with 4.4 GHz on all cores not 4.5 GHz

in the first overclocking menu:

Raise power limit 1/2 to 160000
Set VR Current Limit to 2400

then go to the 2nd overclocking menu
set PSYS Pmax power to 2400

then go to system agent VR settings and set the VR Current limit (not voltage) to 2400

then go to Core/IA VR Settings and set the VR Current limit (not voltage) to 2400

Secondly, I don't know what CPU you have, it would be better if you put your laptop model / specs in your sig so we can better assist you

 

I said specs were 6700k and 1080, I will add to sig though. I already have those settings maxed out, though i used power limit values of 300000, and current limits of 8191, would changing them to the ones you've suggested make any difference?

 

nope, but after further testing. Mr. Fox told me that the values I have given you are enough to stop throttling

Try decreasing the voltage offset to -40mV and see if the throttling stops. If it doesn't, maybe @Prema has a suggestion as I know in the P870DM2/3 the Prema BIOS EC fixes the throttling.

PS: Take a screenshot of your BIOS main screen which shows the Prema BIOS version / EC so we can ensure you have the Prema BIOS EC firmware as well

PS 2: launch HWiNFO and run Fire Strike, then show me a screenshot of your HWiNFO

I wanna make sure if you are having real throttling or it's a brief 1-2 second dip as that's normal when the GPU/CPU are not being stressed

I wanna see your average clock speeds not just the minimum

 

Here is main bios screen. I also reset the bios and set everything to the values you suggested while I was in there.



I can do the HWiNFO thing if you really want but I was stressing with realbench and I was looking at CPU speed in the clevo CPU OC software and in XTU and it would start at 4500hz for about 5 seconds then go down to 3990hz and stay there. If I just CPU stress it will stay at 4500 though.

 

@Prema can you confirm if that's the Prema EC Firmware as well?

 

So, I am having a littlebit of a strange problemwith my p775dm-3: When booting into Windows I always get a bluescreen when connected to the poweradaper :S

Anyone else had similar issues, either with this machine or other clevo machines?

 

That sounds a bit strange. Can you boot into windows on battery? Have you tried plugging the adapter into a different socket to rule out power draw issues?

 

On battery I can boot into windows, no problem.
But if I the connect the charger I get a bluscreen in a matter of seconds

I'll try another socket now, but the electrical in this house is very good and so I kinda doubt that.

 

The CPU can be more aggressive under AC power.

 

Before I discovered that it was related to AC power I thought it could be RAM, so I allready have two new RAM sticks on the way.

Is it possible that it is RAM, and that it casuse a bluesceen when CPU is more aggressive?

 

before you do anything, do an NVRAM Reset:

To perform a soft NVRAM Reset without having to open the laptop and remove the CMOS battery:

Hold FN + D + Power button for 5 seconds, then keep the FN + D buttons pressed and release the Power key, after 30 seconds, you should see the NVRAM reset message on your screen.

Another user also mentioned:

 

Yes it could be a setting has been changed that has introduced instability at full clocks/power.