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    *** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. metaldemon95

    metaldemon95 Notebook Geek

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    So I've made a command decision, I'll be ordering a p750dm2-g from HIDevolution later tonight


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    Good choice, the P750DM2 packs powerful hardware in a smaller size chassis. Congratulations and welcome to the HIDevolution EVOC gaming team!
     
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    That is a great little machine! Have you finalised the configuration?


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  4. metaldemon95

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    Going to get it with the 1080p LG panel, a de-lidded i7 7700k, GTX 1070, 250GB NVME Samsung 960 EVO, 1TB 7200rpm mechanical drive, 16GB 2400 Mhz DDR4, the Intel 8265 wireless card, the 330W PSU, having the logos removed, 30 day dead pixel warranty just in case, and carrying over the 500GB Samsung 850 EVO from my current P650SG

    Probably going to replace the ICD with liquid metal when I get a chance

    Going to order it tonight when I get home from the lab, the engineering major waits for no man lol


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    @metaldemon95 any reason not the 120Hz panel? Also, what engineering field?
     
  6. metaldemon95

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    I'm not going to be using the build in screen much, also once I tasted the glory of IPS I can't go back

    But really all of the screen for the p7xxdmx are kinda bad, the LGs are only 6 bit, the AUOs are TN, and the Samsungs are pentile (RG, BW pixels)

    And it's Electronics Engineering


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  7. estens

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    I tried this and the pc froze three times at the first NVRAM reset message.
    And it is even worse now giving me a bsod earlier in the boot process and even on battery power.

    Tomorrow I will change RAM and do a clean install of windows.

    I can add that the BSOD error messages is:

    -Whea uncorrectable error

    -IRQL less or equal

    -kmode exception not handled

    And one more I cant remember
     
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    madeinholt Notebook Consultant

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    I have a two week old P775DM3-G which is currently back with the reseller. Amongst other things, they have found a problem with the 330W power brick - in that it was supplying the incorrect voltage.
     
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  9. Meaker@Sager

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    Ouch, that's not a happy brick then. No chance of a working system if the power is not working right.
     
  10. madeinholt

    madeinholt Notebook Consultant

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    This is what the engineer said:-

    I have noticed that your charger is not suppling appropriate power to your laptop which can be a cause of some of your issues. I have used a charger from a new build and tested it and it is now supplying the correct voltages.

    I am guessing it was too much juice. So they are now offering a complete laptop replacement, as who knows what other damage a faulty brick may or may not cause.
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

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    If the power regulators on the input are OK then everything on the other side of the power delivery should be fine as the 19v does not feed anything directly.

    However for peace of mind I'm sure you are fine with the swap :)
     
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  12. Boozebeard

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    I've noticed a weird thing with the audio, specifically with headphones. Sometimes after waking the computer from sleep I feel like the volume is much quieter than normal. I've also notice that the headphone impedance measurement on the control centre is not consistent, usually it sits somewhere between the 96 240 numbers but sometimes I notice it's shot up above 600. I think these headphones are only 50ohm too so neither of those measurements seem right. I've yet to check if the volume change and this change in impedance measurement are related, I'll have to check next time I notice the volume drop.

    Anyone else noticed anything similar?

    Edit: I should mention that last time I notice this I found that unplugging and plugging the headphones back in brought the impedance measurement back down and seemed to bring the volume back up. I'll have to try it a couple times to truly confirm that though.
     
  13. Meaker@Sager

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    You should be able to reset it by unplugging them and putting them back in.
     
  14. dm477

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    So it seems AMD has hit it for a six with the Ryzen! I wonder if Clevo will build the p775 and p870 models with AM4 boards?


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    Yeah that does seem to work, it's just a little bit of a pain because I have X-fi motherboard software setup for virtual surround sound, which means setting realtek/windows to 7.1 and X-fi to headphones but every time I unplug and plug back in X-fi changes to 7.1, so I have to go in and change it back. I wish it would just stick and not automatically change it, especially as you're supposed to have that discrepancy between it and the realtek/windows settings for virtual surround to work right!
     
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    Considering the cost of such development.... Don't expect floods of notebooks.
     
  17. boggi

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    Dear all notebook-enthusiasts,
    I have been reading the last 103 (literally!) sites of this thread to gain information about the i7 7700k or i7 7700 processors built in a 15,6 inch P751dm clevo but did not find any satisfying answers to my main question:

    I am going to buy a P751dm with a GTX 1070 and still asking myself if I shall choose the 7700k or the 7700. Actually I won't overlock the processor since heat is the most important aspect for me. So, will the 7700k really overheat that bad (I won't undervolt nor delid it!)? Does the 7700 (65W) outperform the 7700k (91W) concerning the temperatures that much?

    I am really into gaming so I would love to hear the experiences of some owners with the same specs or other expert's opinions, especially regarding the CPU temperature while gaming (Witcher 3, GTA 5, Total War Warhammer, etc. ...).
    Cheers!
     
  18. Q937

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    At identical settings, odds are the 7700 will run a bit hotter since Intel likely bins lower clocking samples into the locked SKU. But the difference will probably be minimal.
     
  19. boggi

    boggi Notebook Enthusiast

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    Really Interestesting aspect indeed. I thought the i7 7700k runs way hotter than the i7 7700, due to its higher performance/clock speed and his higher watt of 91 watt (and of course due to reviews I've read).
     
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  20. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    See the post one more time "At identical settings" :rolleyes:
     
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  21. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    Always the K.
    Tune it. Learn how to make profiles with TS and have your system tuned for any job and scenario. Nothing can beat that. Full power and full optimization.
    Since i mastered TS even my sexual life has improved.
     
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  22. dm477

    dm477 Notebook Evangelist

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    Why are you so reluctant to undervolt? The whole point of these machines is that they allow you to 'fiddle around' (for lack of a better phrase) to extract the best possible performance. If you are not willing to do a bit of customization and tweaking, there is no point getting the P7xxdm series. I can understand why one would not want to delidd, but undervolt is a simple one minute procedure with TS! And it shaves off 10C of your core temperatures!





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    dm477 Notebook Evangelist

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    Oh my...I knew TS could work wonders but had no idea it was THAT good!! You learn something new here at NBR everyday!


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  24. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    TS is just a tool that works.
    In the Next days i will try to make a vídeo showing how i use it.
     
  25. madeinholt

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    With TS I always find attention to the CLI setting helps.

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  26. madeinholt

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    It's difficult to say for sure from that fairly limited comment, they were obviously concerned that the power supply anomaly could have been causing some of the misbehaviour. Maybe there was also a board-side issue, we will never know! :cool:
     
  27. boggi

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    @Q937 @Papusan thanks for the replies!
    @dm477 @John@OBSIDIAN-PC thanks as well! I am quite a noob concerning all aspects like undervolting, delidding, overlokcking, etc.. But you have convinced me to take the i7 7700K. Is there any good guidance yet (I know, you are going to make a Video...) which shows the use of Throttlestop? Could I undervolt the CPU easily/easier with Intel XTU? And last question (and yes, you can laugh about me!): It is possible to delid a non K CPU? So the i7 7700 or 6700?
     
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  28. dm477

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    Err...I guess you are not going to make a video showing how mastering TS has improved your sexual life, eh?




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  29. dm477

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    @boggi If you read through last 50 odd pages here, you will find the relevant info about TS, undervolting, XTU etc. I'd recommend sticking with 6700K or 7700K.

    If you search the forum, there is a massive thread about using TS, and it is fairly straight forward.


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  30. Papusan

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    Yes you can delid a non K CPU. But why? :eek: Stick with 6700K or 7700K :)
     
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    @dm477 @Papusan Okok^^. So the 7700K it is and I will look for the TS here in the forum! Thanks again.
    Hope after tweaking the machine the keyboard surface won't be hot at all or at least not that hot (as it was in my P651hs which finally made me to choose another laptop with a higher chassis = P751dm2)
     
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  32. dm477

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    It does get warm under heavy gaming load but there are ways to work around it. Good luck with your purchase.


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    Powerful hardware Means more heat. You can not repeal the laws of physics :) However as @dm477 said, there are ways to work around it :)
     
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    There good deals on end of stock 6700k... With this we dont even need undervolt ;)
     
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    No need for a 7700K vs 6700K. Due you can't utilize maximum overclock from 7700K in P751dm2. So 6700K is a great choice. Lower price is also not to be despised :)
     
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    Hey guys, any reviews out there for the NP9152? I'm having trouble finding some searching around google or pictures/videos of one on youtube. I see some people talking about the 7700k running hot and needing tweaking. If I were to order one from HIDevolution and choose "HIDevolution Delidded - Unlocked, Under Volted and Overclocked 7th Generation Intel Core i7-7700K Quad Core Processor, 4.2 GHz (HIDevolution Overclocked to 4.7GHz) - GUARANTEED Performance (Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra includ " would most of this tweaking you guys need to do be included in that they are doing or would I most likely still need to go in and tweak and undervolt further? I'd like to buy one of these over an 8157 but I am having trouble finding any reviews but I will start digging back through all of the pages here.
     
  37. Papusan

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    Should be safe. But if you want... Try out new settings for yourself :) That's what's funny with proper hardware.
     
  38. Lunatics

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    Oh I will if I get one I am still trying to make up my mind on what to go with once I sell my Blade. Any links to any reviews for these models or should I just read through the thread?
     
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  39. Papusan

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    Always Google up everything about what you want to buy. As well talk with owners who already have the model you want. But stay far away from JokeBooks!!
     
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    So... I'm seeing an usage pattern. If I change my settings for the CPU clock, my system is unstable af for the first 3 - 10 hours, then it stabilizes. Any idea what could be causing this? Could it be the adaptive voltage or something? It makes benching and testing stability a real pain.
     
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    Im curious to if this is a newer 1440p@120hz panel as well.
     
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    Oh I am trying to I'm just not having any luck finding reviews for these.
     
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    That is what I am wondering as well. Maybe @ John@OBSIDIAN-PC can answer that as the end of the month is nearly here..
     
  44. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    Yeah im wondering as well.
    Looking at the technical manual i think i know which panels they are but im actually not sure.
    Im asking the sales rep today.
     
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    Hey guys, it is me again and with me some nooby questions again. As I went trhough the whole forum, I did not find the answers I was looking for. So:
    Instead of using Throttlestop for undervolting the CPU, why not use the Clevo Control Center? Or Intel XTU?
    It is possible to undervolt the GPU (GTX 1070) while overlocking on the other side its memory? Or would it become too instable?
    Does it make sense to undervolt the GPU at all?
    Hope you guys can help me out once again^^.
     
  46. dm477

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    @boggi clearly you did not read through the thread. It is one of the more frequent questions asked by new users including myself. A simple search would have suffice.

    XTU messes up your fan profile, CCC also uses XTU profiles, and it is best avoided. Another advantage of TS is that it also undervolts your CPU cache. Use @John@OBSIDIAN-PC utility and it will install CCC without XTU elements and you are good to go then.

    Undervolt is there to control temperature. That is all. So apply an undervolt, if your GPU runs warmer than say 90C.


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    No reason to avoid Clevo Contril Center, but you should use caution. @John@OBSIDIAN-PC's utility will install it with the same hack posted by another member a while back where you modify a .ini file before installation.

    But yes @unclewebb's ThrottleStop is another great alternative.
     
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    I did not advise to avoid CCC. As I suggested in that post, if one uses @John@OBSIDIAN-PC utility, it installs CCC minus the XTU profiles. And that is what I have on my system and it works like a charm.


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    Basically my goal (and almost ready) is replacing the CC OC bit with a new version of TS, all clean and integrated with my app.
    I think this is the best from both worlds.
    I also added the option to disable the XTU service in the BIOS, not sure how will this work as i am testing a lot of stuff atm.
     
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    I am quite looking forward to that. I have been having some issues with CPU multiplier value in TS and what was set in BIOS. @madeinholt have been helping me out and we managed to solve the multiplier issue. It involved uninstalling TS, installing XTU to check how it was behaving etc. XTU did seem to have fixed the issue but like always, it just completely messed up the fan profile. I am still trying to optimize the whole thing but without much success. I think I'd have to ask for @Phoenix 's or your @John@OBSIDIAN-PC help (via TeamViewer) to sort this one out.
     
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