*** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

Nope, I had to phone them this afternoon because I had not received any updates.

 

I would wonder at something else like firmware or CPU at that point. Perhaps there are pins having issues on the motherboard.

 

That is not good, is it? Let's hope it gets all sorted out soon


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Hopefully, all the problems will actually be sorted out before I get this one!!!!

 

I have started making notes

 

Even though Scan only gives you the option of 2133mhz value ram, I personally didn't want that and I asked them for a specific brand and mhz of ram I wanted in my system. In the end it didn't cost any more or less than what they offer in their build.

Also if they say that anything above 2133 is unsupported, it's BS they don't know what they are talking about. So my advice get what you want.

 

RAM revised to faster Corsair Vengeance - FOC!

 

How much faster? It'll take up to 3000MHz...

 

Not that fast, my budget was limited to the original price of a P775DM1-G and just a little bit extra. Scan decided 2400MHz Vengeance would be no extra cost over the 2133MHz Value, due to the delay on the build.

 

That's pretty sweet for no extra money!
The controller will only go up to 2400 anyway, its only the NB that'll use that extra speed if it feels it needs to.
With the Prema Bios you'll go all the way to the top, whatever you put in there... I heard of 3200 already and the CPU eats it up!

 

Unfortunately, I have been constrained to ordering from the non-Prema zone, due to cost and by my recent bout of Clevoitis.

 

Clevoitis. Severe fever of the CPU followed by major BIOS headaches. Usually resulting in extreme USER fatigue, stress and increased blood pressure.

 

If only there had been a P775DM1-G Lounge!!!!

 

That sounds like a pretty good deal...I am almost tempted to ask them to swap my RAM modules for the 2400 ones but I think I have exhausted my budget with the 1tb pm961, 7700k, and keyboard. Come to think of it, boy do these things climb up the price ladder. I mean I could have gotten the new 105mm 1.4e for the price of all the upgrades that have gone into my machine

 

There is no harm in asking! Nice lens by the way

 

I guess so. I will fire them an email. Yes, it is on my list to round up my kit along side 24mm 1.8g and 58mm 1.4g. Maybe I'll buy it as a graduation present to my self

 

@madeinholt and I were discussing De-Lidding the 7700K CPU and found a pretty good deal. I'm most likely gonna send my system off next week for the De-Lid.
Reason we all spend money this way is cause we are threading that line between performance and perfection

 

Where are you getting it 'de-lid'? I thought about doing it on my old 3930K but then changed my mind.

Yeah, chasing that last bit of performance does get expensive. Law of diminishing returns. It is a bit like jumping from 35mm film size sensors to 645 systems. Unless you are printing big and want to see the shadows under midday sun, no point paying £40, 000 for Phase One XF 100 kit. Having said that, I would buy that thing in a heart beat if I could afford it




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So @madeinholt linked me to these guys.

I rang them this morning and they sent me a quotation - De-lidding non DVC laptop.
£120 inc VAT. They will send a courier and de-lid, test and then ship back for that cost. Takes roughly 4 working days they said.

Disclaimer is: "Please note that as this laptop was not purchased through ourselves we are not able to offer any warranty on the de-lidded cpu, if the processor fails in the future you will need to purchase a new one." They have 100% success-rate so far, so It's not a bad deal imo.

 

They also re-paste the GPU and CPU with either Conductonaut or CLU

 

Just had confirmation of dispatch, even though I asked if they could please hold on to it - as Tuesday is not a good day for me. Oh, well! At least this confirmed the RAM was swapped for the 2400, not sure how well it has all been tested though!?

 

If they sent confirmation it means the test was fine. When you receive the PC, setup and login you'll see a folder with all the images of the testing they did.

 

You can reschedule the delivery with DPD and like @ZeroEx said, they usually send a thumb drive containing ss of all stability tests they ran.


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When building I always used to run MemTest on several passes overnight and then leave Aida running for another all-nighter. All I am saying is that they took less than four hours in total, according to the paperwork.

 

You have to weigh that against the cost of a pre-binned delid CPU or the tool to do it yourself.

 

I did play with the idea but I don't think I would greatly benefit from the advantages delid offers.


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That too, for someone like me who buys a £2 pack of razor blades suitable for 20 delids it was a no brainer

 

To be honest, on occasions I just want to delid one out of sheer curiosity. If nothing else, it will be a good learning experience.

 

Would soaking a CPU lid down in a shallow dish of isopropyl alcohol work? It seems to melt
glue fairly well.

 

@madeinholt the "glue" Intel uses appears to be some kind of silicone which will not "melt." The problem is easily solved with a delid tool to shear it off, no risk of damage like the razor method.

 

you have a link for that glue d00d?

 

@Phoenix Permatex Ultra Black is readily available at auto part stores and works fine. This is what SiliconLottery uses IIRC.

 

oh I have that, it's really messy and the IHD didn't stick to the PCB.......

you need a Skylake motherboard to put the glue, then lock it in the motherboard using that clip overnight it doesn't stick instantly

 

@Phoenix I did not have that problem. I used a very, very thin layer on the top and bottom edges of the IHS (not the edges where the "wings" are) and just put a few weights on it for a few hours. After a few hours it will setup enough to not instantly fall off so you can install it in your motherboard socket until it is fully cured.

 

Or if you own the delid tool from Rockit cool they have an extra part that you can use to hold it in place whilst whatever you use sets. I know that's what DVC use as I spoke to them about it when they were doing mine

 

I know, it's lifting the skirt and you could kind of see what a mobile socket version would look like if they did a compact press down socket.

As below that's a bad idea, you could make sure it's not cold, it's going to be easier to work with slightly warm.

Far more sensible to use a tool.

 

Hi everyone!
So I am just a few weeks away from ordering my first real gaming laptop. I have been on the Apple band wagon for years and have recently sold that and did some side work to buy a new gamning rig. So I have been doing research for the past couple of months and went through hundreds of forums and many hours of searching and landed on a Sager/Clevo. Really has the best bang for the buck from what I have seen. Once I decided on Sager I had to decide on which model and got down to these with these config/upgrades from the base model from Xotic PC:

SAGER NP9172 (CLEVO P775DM3-G)
3K 120hz 5ms with G-Sync
GTX 1080
CoolLaboratory Thermal Paste

SAGER NP9152 (CLEVO P750DM2-G)
FHD 120hz 5ms with G-Sync
GTX 1070
CoolLaboratory Thermal Paste

So I was really leaning towards the NP9172 since the bump up in graphics power would for sure keep the laptop current for a long time to come and the design of the NP9172 is just a bit more refined than the NP9152.

Then a new days ago, as I typically do because I can't help myself, I was on Sager and Xotic PC's website looking at the two models and playing with different configs just because. When I noticed that the 3K 120hz screen was no longer an option on the NP9172 on either Sager or Xotic PC's (and now finding out a lot more PC makers pages). I contacted someone at Xotic PC and they said they would look into it but I haven't quite head back from them since it was only a couple of days ago. So I am hoping that by the time I go to buy mine they either bring that one back or add the option for a FHD 120hz.

But if they don't what I'm wondering is would y'all still stick with the NP9172 and just go with the IPS FHD at a lower refresh rate, which to some extent limits the frame rate on that awesome card i'm getting? Or would you bump down to the 15" NP9152 with the 1070 to get the 120hz screen back? All of these screens are Gsync so no issues there but I just keep going back and forth on this and just cannot decide what to do.

Also how are the viewing angles on these non IPS 120hz screens? I can obviously see the advantage of having the 120hz screen for gaming but I'm also probably going to be spending more time doing normal work on it where an IPS screen maybe be better anyway? But in the same breath even when I'm working on it, I'm sitting right in front of it anyway so the IPS probably isn't that big of a deal. Thoughts? Pictures of angles of these different screens people could upload?

 

Elvis is in the building!

First things first. BIOS 1.06.05 has a negative box for the Core Offset Voltage!!!!

 

I'm having a brain fart....

Using my old 950 Pro and decided be sensible and do a clean install. I have no drivers as the build came driveless (I was told drivers would be on a usb stick, but they're not and the included driver disc is ancient) so I am now waiting for them to download from Clevo.

Do I remember that there is a very particular order the drivers need to go on or did I make that up???

Is it a do or don't on CCC? Latest version on Clevo is 5.0001.1.04 (28/12/2016).

Chipset first, but then what? I had all this written down on my 950 Pro

 

Obsidian have made a great tool to download and install the drivers. They even include a CCC that doesn't install the XTU software
https://www.obsidian-pc.com/en/downloads?___from_store=pt#files/OBSIDIAN TOOL

 

^this @madeinholt @john@obsidian's utility is the way to go. It has everything you would need and installs CCC minus the XTU profiles.

 

Omg Obsidian Tool is the best thing ever. It's a must have if you own a P775DM system.

 

Thanks all! Obsidian Tool it is.

 

Super Mega Update for the tool:

Almost all code was re-written and improved.
Faster functions!
FINALLY -> It can look at windows registry to check SBX XFI installed version.
FINALLY -> It can now check the Thunderbolt driver installed by looking at the driver .inf file.

Most of the UI might look the same, but it uses new code and includes new options:
-Start with windows
-Start Minimized
-Now uses system tray icon instead of taskbar
-You can now activate notifications for updates(uses windows notification system) - feature will be improved
-You can now set a timer to check for updates every X time

The "Version Check" system was improved both on the client side and server side, which among other things reduces the chance of error and allows me to add a new model under 5 minutes

A lot of the changes that are done under this version is to open way for new features (actually they are already there but hidden), so future updates will come faster and with new great features.

To everyone using the app in my signature please post bugs!

 

Hey John, big thanks to the people who have coded and worked on this tool and you guys for hosting the files. This thing is fantastic.

I did have a problem updating the Thunderbolt drivers, some kind of error message comes up saying: Download failed: error transferring (web address here) - server replied: Not Found.

 

so i bit the bullet on a p775dm3-g and im in the chute, question i have about prema bios' though is if there are ever updates how do i receive them? is the firmware files just emailed to me or what? and same question on if i upgrade the gpu at some point

 

Well I got confirmation from Xotic PC that they contacted Sager and they do not plan on put the 120hz screen back into the NP9172.

 

Nice work! Thanks for the information!
There is a update to fix that!
I forgot to change the url for Thunderbolt, i changed the structure in the server so it would be faster for future updates.

Please let me know if you find any other bug

PS. the people who codded and host the drivers are all the same, poor old me

 

I am testing it out. I will come back to haunt you either to thank you or if something bad happens. Either way, I will haunt you

 

The latest version of Nvidia you recommnd there is the latest tested and found safe or just the latest pushed by Nvidia?