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Having a hard time deciding for this new P775DM Build. Going for a GTX1080 GPU.
1080p60 G-Sync

or

4K60 No G-Sync
What's the better option here?

 

You can get the 4k panel with GSYNC. I love the wide gamut of the display, really comes in handy when doing edits. And as long as you have the 1080, it will run games in 60fps+ range for almost all new titles (with a few exceptions).


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The Vendor in the UK I'm talking to doesn't have the 4K G-Sync Display, they only have the FHD 1080p 60hz G-Sync Display.
There is another vendor which I think has the 4K G-Sync Display, but their system costs £200 more with the same config I'm going for.

 

I got mine from Scan, they appear to be only ones who are offering gsync 4k. PC Specialists are not offering the 4k screen with gsync. I just compared both with the same configuration as in my sig (with the exception of the CPU, as now they come with kaby lake processors), and they came within £50 of each other.

PS: I just realised XMG sells in Uk as well. I am not sure about whether they offer 4K gsync or not, it might be worth checking with one of their reps here.

 

Think I'll get mine from Scan, same as yours. What's your impressions so far? Needed to downclock or had any temp or driver issues?

 

Best bloody purchase I have ever made.

No temperature issues as such. I haven't downclocked it, yet as I don't feel temperatures are going beyond 80ish C. Only time I have felt the system getting a bit warm is when I play Witcher 3. And that too at ultra settings. Keyboard gets a wee warm after an half an hour or so of gameplay. Other than that, it is a perfectly serviceable machine without any driver issue or anything else of that sort.

Mind you, there is a good chance that you screen will have a slight backlight bleeding. Mine bleeds a little towards bottom right of the screen. But it is only visible against black background and I don't really notice it at all. I can post a video to demonstrate it if you want.

I am not particularly bothered by fan noise either, and they stay quiet during normal browsing, watching Netflix et al., and word processing. Autocad, Photoshop and games will stress your fans but you don't really hear the fans with your headphones on. I am probably not the typical user of Clevo as I do not overclock or do much of benchmarking (come to think of it, I don't do it at all!). I needed a powerful machine that I could use for modelling and rendering, photo editing, and gaming. It was either a Clevo notebook with a proper motherboard and cpu (non BGA variety) or a desktop. I went with the laptop simply because of portability. It is heavy but with the right bag you wouldn't feel the weight. In last one month I have travelled from England to Germany, then flew to Turkey for the new year, came back to Germany, and will fly back to England in couple of days and I haven't had any issues whatsoever.

Also, go for the Samsung nvme, it is well worth the money. I think with the new and more powerful (?) 7700k, your machine would be great and will serve you well for next couple of years at least. And Scan are great, I ordered it on 08/12/16 and got it on 10/12/16!

 

If you want to be sure of getting the best temperatures possible, I can't recommend obsidian-pc enough. You get a delidded cpu if you order a K processor, and some nice service, plus you can still have their support if you flash a prema bios, if/when it'll became available via donations. They have only one screen choice though, so if you want the 4k you'll have to look elsewhere.

As @dm477 said, the fans aren't really too loud, but depending on the person can be annoying. I still haven't heard them in normal gaming, without headphones.

 

yea....true. obsidian is the best service they got. temps are damn low. even 24/7 gaming.
i have my 6700k and gtx 1070 always cool. sometimes i doubt about fans because they are soo silent. better than my old lenovo.also...i get max cpu temps 64 °C and gpu max 44 °C while heavy gaming.

 

4K without G-sync would be a struggle so I would advise against that.

 

Okay, I will get the G-Sync Version on Monday.

Thank you all for your helpful advice. Much appreciated ^^'
Will give my impressions once I have my P775DM

 

Hi.
Do you know if there are icc profiles available somewhere to download ? ( P775dm3-FHD ips 75hz here ).

 

I imagine there's only one model of 17" 75hz ips fHD panel, the LG lp173wf4-spf1. At least that's what I have. Anyway you can try to look here

 

I also want to put in a word for HIDevolution ( @Donald@HIDevolution ). The offer delidding with liquid metal TIM (CLLU) and are also a Prema partner so you will get the Prema BIOS as soon as it us available. HID service is excellent and they are quite popular in the NBR community. The do cost a bit more than sager resellers, but you get what you pay for ; )

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You guys are lucky you can choose both a delidded cpu and the prema bios. Here in Europe is one or the other for now, unless one delids the cpu himself.

 

Ty for the link. Applied it, gives me awfull colors even if i have this screen, but thank you for the answer !

 

Every panel (even of the same model) and needs to be calibrated on a panel by panel basis to get the best results.

 

We can deliver the P775DM3-G with 4K G-Sync screen. We can also de-lid the CPU at no additional cost.

 

Hello and welcome to the forums. Please have a read of the forum rules and get your account registered as a reseller.

 

I recently decided to join team EVOC with a P775DM3, and I think it's now time to join the forums. So, here I am. Overall, I'm quite happy with the system, but I've got some questions for you all.

Spoiler: System Specs

P775DM3-G:

• Intel i7-6700K, 4.0 GHz (4.4GHz turbo, Silicon Lottery Delidded)
• 32GB (2 x 16GB) G.SKILL Ripjaws 3000 MHz
• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB
• 3K (2560x1440) AUO 120Hz, 5ms
• 256GB M.2 SATA SSD
• 1TB 7200 RPM Hard Drive
• Killer Wireless-AC N1535
• Windows 7 Pro, 64bit

1) How bad is the banding on the 3K screen for anyone else? Mine seems particularly bad, with the lines easily visible from 16+ inches. Here's a few pictures showing the banding on my screen. Is it possible that my screen is worse than average, or is this just how they all are. Either way, I find it quite annoying.

2) How bad is the trackpad for anyone else? Mine seems to miss at least 20% of my clicks, even though I make sure to press the buttons fully. I've tried several different drivers and it still sucks.

3) The color calibration profile provided with the computer seems to only apply to Windows Photo Viewer. Applying/removing the profile makes no visible change to the screen, but makes the photo viewer quite dark. Does anyone have any idea what's up with this?

4) Does anyone else have trouble with the display backlight occasionally reverting to full brightness (eg. after opening the lid)? Sometimes it returns to my setting on its own, other times I have to put it back manually. Also, these settings only seem to apply in Windows, unlike my old laptop. What's up with that?

5) This question is mostly for @Prema. I noticed when reading the service manual that the chip controlling the keyboard backlight is controlled by the I2C bus and appears that it would be accessible to the EC that handles the keyboard input (EC #2). Would it then be possible to have the backlight hotkeys on the keyboard control the lights directly instead of being handled by CCC software? I can imagine that everyone would like being able to shut or dim the lights without using that funky software. You could even use that reset key (fn + num /) to cycle through a few preset colors (white, red, green, blue, magenta, yellow(ish) and cyan).


Thanks in advance for any responses.

 

After seeing the benchmarks for kaby lake, I didn't feel bad for not waiting another month for 7700k but seeing 1080 in 15-inch form factor does make me feel a bit bad!


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I did say this before too, but 1080 on 15" laptop would have been best for me also.
Still I kinda prefer to have 2 slots for HDDs. There's always a compromise to be made, but my previous P650sg had 2 hdd slots. I know it was a bga machine, while this has desktop cpu and mxm gpu which should take more space in the mainboard, but one less storage option is a bigger no on my list than a good designed and implemented soldered gpu/cpu combo.
Anyway I'm happy with the choice I've made. Even though my model seems to have some serious issue and need to be checked by the shop, so I have to wait again.

 

heres the thing tho: due to the massive space around the MXM slot, the tornado F5 is physically capable of supporting non-standard MXM factor cards. this is surely partly due to the missing second 2.5 inch storage slot

 

Talking of backlight bleed, I ran one of those YouTube backlight bleed test videos again, see the attached image, and screen does seem to have more backlight bleed than I remembered. Though I must say, while playing games and watching content I only notice the bleeding towards bottom right corner of the panel.

Do you guys think I should have a chat with the reseller about it? It is quite tolerable now but it seems to be more widespread than last time and I am a bit afraid that it might get worse.



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i have resolved mine by putting some space between bezel and lcd.
when i got my lcd replaced from obisidian they have sent me some thermal pads.
i have reduced almost 90% of bleeding!!!!

 

using thermal pads as space fillers for lcd and bezel, ingenious why didnt i think of that?

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but look at dm477's lcd....it little different. i have never saw it before. can you remove bottom 2 screws and remove the bezel also....it may come out like butter....no need to force. just with your finger nails....try to separate the lcd lid and bezel. then let us see a picture please.

 

hostare immagini


these spots are the places which bezel keep holding in to lid. so thats normal. as my wife's iphone has them too, you can reduce it by a sand paper method or thermal pads method

 

I will contact Scan before attempting any fix myself mainly to avoid any warranty related pitfalls. Though I must say, thermal pad based solution sounds most elegant to me. I am not entirely familiar with the sand paper method but some how it doesn't sound particularly appealing!

EDIT: Just contacted Scan, and sent them the photo. They will get back to me later today if they think it needs some fix on their side. While at it, I couldn't help but ask about upgrading to 7700K They said they will need to check with Clevo ' if there is a BIOS update which supports them'
I thought Clevo hadn't changed the chassis and board, but it seems I was wrong.

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they havent, but a bios update is still necessary nevertheless

 

HAHA i actually started doing that just because i had nothing better at hand. But it´s been working perfect for some time now

 

Hi , i have updated my P775DM3-G to 1.06.01 ( from https://repo.palkeo.com/clevo-mirror/P7xxDM23G/ ) and i lost GSYNC and 75hz ( only 60hz ).
How can i return to correct BIOS and EC ?
@Prema any idea :_(?
Thanks

 

Have you contacted your reseller for an updated file for your model?

 

There's a newer one here
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/kaby-lake-bios-updates-p775dm3-g-p751dm2-g.800128/

You could try that and see if it works

 

only flash a BIOS if it comes directly from your reseller to prevent such things from happening.

 

Seems like only the P870 got updated to the Z270 chipset while P7XX all remained on the Z170 chipset while being updated to Kaby Lake CPUs. So the better memory controller and extra PCIe 3.0 x4 from the chipset are not available to the P7XX laptops.

May I know can the current Display Port 1.3 port on the Pascal Clevo laptops be updated to v1.4 when it is ready? And do the current Pascal Clevo laptops support HDMI 2.0?

 

um....the memory controller is inside the CPU, so it is available when u switch to kaby lake....

HDMI 2.0 is already supported on current models. DP cannot be upgraded, since its a hardware change.

 

Hi im looking for this model with the qhd 120hz display in europe but i dont seem to find good price like US can anyone link me to any ?

 

Does the AUO 15.6" FHD 120Hz screen for the P75x and P65x require a different lcd cable? Or can you use the cable installed for the normal FHD G-Sync screen?

 

I thought DP 1.3 and DP 1.4 have the same 32.4 Gbps bandwidth?

 

Have you checked Scan.co.uk and XMG? Might be worth emailing PC Specialist as well. There are other European resellers as well so so look around.


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Yeah only xmg seem to have the 120hz display in eu I found many stores with better price tough but no 120hz for some reason they only provide fHD or 4k displays

 

Hello Guys,

I have a great Problem with my Clevo P775DM3-G from German Seller Mifcom. First my Specs:
6600K
16GB Ram
4K Gsync Display
950 Pro 512GB
GTX 1080

1Week after i get my System the Clevo Crashes from Time to time. The End was a damaged Graphics Card. My Seller send my System fast back with a new GTX 1080 and it runs perfectly for 4 Weeks. Every f**king Game runs for Hours without any Problems. The Clevo is everytime on a flat Table, Room Temperature 22° C. I played Doom and then i get a Black Screen. I played it again Blackscreen. I testet all Drivers i can. CS GO Blackscreen. I´m really sure my next 1080 is ready for Trash. I dont know what i should do now. I think the next 1080 will damaged again. The System performance is perfect, but i dont want to send my system every 4 weeks to my System Reseller. Does anybody use an 1080 with a similar System? Does anybody got a broken 1080 or similar Problems? Should i try to change my System with an 1070? I like the 1080 very much but im not happy any more with this system. Maybe some Guys can help me or tell me what the Problem is? I think the Temperatures much do high and Grill my Card....it Works nearly all the Time @91°C.

Thx for ur Help

Martricks

 

K so I finally received my laptop, still need to stress it hard with some games to see how it holds up.
The 4K screen is quite interesting. Older programs don't scale at all and look tiny, some look okay but have tiny buttons, the things that do support 4K are fantastic however.
Love that there's a fn+1 Fan boost macro, that's neat.

Had issues in the beginning with Youtube videos being stuttery at times, till I found the Control Center and switched it to Performance :O
I really hope Scan didn't benchmark it on Entertainment, that would suck.

The system really doesn't like HWMonitor for some reason. That program causes some hitching. So I dunno what else to use to monitor CPU temps.
Whenever I watch Youtube the CPU temps go up, rather than GPU usage, however in GPU-Z clearly the video engine gets used.

Ran the Heaven benchmark I saw pre-installed at the highest rez and extreme settings and saw the GPU temp rise to 90 degrees (before I knew about the 100% fanspeed shortcut/macro), so that's why I'll test with real games in a bit to see what's happening.

Overall, I like the system, only thing that bothers the crap out of me so far is the touchpad. Which seems totally not precise. Even trying to highlight some text slowly letter by letter, the travel distance on screen vs on the pad, nothing happens for a while. Like the mouse doesn't wanna move at all until you travel a certain distance across an area :/

 

Got mine from Dream Machines in Poland

 

I'm looking at picking up the EUROCOM Sky X4E2, which I believe is the P750DM2-G?

If I go with an i7 7700k and GTX 1070, will I have to get the 330w power adapter or will the 230w suffice? I'm not planning on doing any crazy overclocking, but will be moving around quite a bit with this machine so if I can get away with a smaller power supply, that would be ideal. Frankly, I'm also considering just getting the 7700 non-k.

Also, would you guys consider this machine sturdy enough to travel with? I've been looking at the Tornado F5 and people have been saying it wouldn't be an ideal machine to travel due to screen flex and the base only being secured by a couple of screws that will eventually fall out...

 

I haven't had any issue scaling with my system. It might be worth fiddling around with the text size etc in the settings. On touch pad, well it is serviceable and that is about it really.

 

Windows 10 DPI Fix

The problem in Windows 10:
When you have a widescreen, with a resolution of 1920x1080 or higher or a bit lower, in Windows Vista, 7, 8 and 8.1 you would put your DPI scaling to 125% or higher to make text and images appear larger and more easy to read.
But when you put the DPI scaling to 125% in Windows 10, you see in a lot of dialogs and windows the font gets very blurry.
It does not matter if you are using the regular or custom Windows DPI scaling functions at your 'Screen properties'. Text will get blurry on 125%.
You can test if you have this bug also if you put your DPI scaling to 125% at your 'Screen properties', then reboot Windows (or sign in again when it asks you).
Then goto 'Control panel > Administrative tools > Services'.
If you have this issue also you would see the titlebar of the Services window has a font scaled good. But the services list itself is very blurry/unsharp to read.

The SIMPLE fix:
Right-click on the shortcut to your application that has blurry fonts, then select 'Properties'. Then tab 'Compatibility'. Then enable 'Disable display scaling on high DPI settings' and hit 'Apply'. then restart your application, and you see it will look good.

The DPI fix:
Windows 10 is using another scaling method for DPI as in Windows Vista, 7, 8 and 8.1.
At some point we can understand Windows why they changed the DPI scaling in Windows 10. It is probably meant to support mobile devices more easy.
But if you like to use your Desktop as a Desktop, and you demand high quality only. Then you can use this fix until Microsoft has addressed this issue.
This fix simple tells Windows 10 to use the original DPI scaling as it was in Windows Vista, 7, 8 and 8.1.

Why this is a small software program, and not some 'Registry Tweak' is because when you manually adjust the DPI settings at your 'Windows Registry'. Windows will reset your dpi settings every 2 reboots. Which means you would have to adjust the registry again (Microsoft forces you almost to use its new DPI scaling method).
You could use a batch file for it that starts when you start Windows(r) to change the registry DPI settings, but then a ugly CMD box would show if you turn on your computer.
This method we created simple works, does what you want. And will not show a ugly CMD box because its using pure API.

Side effects:
- It needs to start when Windows starts, but only for a couple milliseconds (you will not see it of course). Then it will adjust the DPI scaling to use the Windows 8 way. And then it will close itself.
- In Microsoft Edge (its new browser) some Adobe Flash objects will appear smaller, but you can simple overcome that by using Internet Explorer 11, or Chrome, or FireFox.

See before and after.

 

I was thinking about getting the apache or dominator because the p670rp6 was a bit ugly for me but after seeing the screen (dim and no gsync) and hearing the sound on the 15" model at best buy, I am scared to get one. I could get the msi for 1300 but I can't stand hot running laptops. I'm starting to lean more towards the p775dm3 after also reading the p670rp6 runs hot. My budget is anywhere from 1300-2200. I'd obviously liked to spend less so I was considering the gtx1600 instead of the gtx1700 but is it worth getting the p775dm3 with just the gtx1600? And should I know anything worrisome about this model? Are the temps good?

 

@dm477 @Phoenix Thanks for the messages, I'll try the Windows 10 DPI fix to see if it corrects the issues I was seeing.
Are there other touchpad drivers or just that one set? Should I keep Control Center installed as well?

 

You can try other driver versions but I don't think you'll find it any better. Iirc my P650SG touchpad was more or less the same as the P775DM3. I used the last drivers for just a couple days though 'cause some functions had been removed, but didn't find differences in responsiveness.
The friend I sold the 15" to did actually say a couple days ago that when he installed Linux he found the touchpad to be overall better than in Windows.

About CCC the common conception here is that once you have it installed you can't turn back (ask @Georgel for example), unless you reinstall Windows. You can mod the .ini before the installation to exclude the xtu service that's somewhat broken, but I don't know if it'll be problem free after that.