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When I asked about it, Donald said the pixels are so small on the 3K screen that you're going to need very good eyes to pick them out. The odd thing is 4K screen allows you to select a screen warranty... I guess you're still covered by their 1 year warranty?

I chose the 3K screen for my P775DM3 and have no complaints about it.

 

Thanks for the quick reply DRevan!

It's good to know that the G-SYNC for an external G-SYNC monitor 'should' work. However given that the P750DM2-G has regular 2 x v1.3 DisplayPorts, why do I need the miniDP conversions?
https://www.metabox.com.au/store/b192/P750DM2-G-overview

In regards to the Optimus, I phrased the above incorrectly. I meant that if it was present it may cause problems, given the switching from iGPU to dGPU and the reliance on the NVIDIA dGPU for G-SYNC. I found the following page from NotebookCheck.net that states that G-SYNC can only be implemented without Optimus:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia...-1080-SLI-GTX-1070-and-GTX-1060.171566.0.html

This is a slight shame as I have liked some aspects of the Optimus setup in my P150SMA, such as quieter fans. Indeed it has most likely caused me more problems e.g. GeforceExperience detectionin games, reclassifying games to use dGPU which sometimes isn't done automatically, etc. I certainly saw no benefits to battery life.

Anybody have any comments on Samsung 960 drives in the P750DM2-G in regards to BIOS and Win7 vs Win10 compatibility?

 

@madrabbit711 that is a picture of either the P750DM(-G) or the P750ZM(-G). Metabox is lazy and did not update their pictures. I will confirm firsthand that the P750DM2-G has only MiniDP. See this picture from HIDevolution and note the off-center power connector.


I would test the P750DM2-G on the XB270HU for you (have both) but I don't have a DP to MiniDP cable. I see no reason why this would not work as the ports are wired direct to the NVIDIA GPU.

The Samsung 960 will work on Windows 7 if you load the Samsung NVMe driver during setup (see this post: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-p870dm2-3-drivers-mirror.795059/page-12#post-10395265). Using setup.exe and boot.wim from Windows 10 ISO overwritten on Windows 7 install USB/ISO makes driver issues (like USB) much easier to deal with (see this post: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/p870dm-sager-fans-xtu.794144/page-3#post-10300065). I personally use this method when installing to Skylake systems, including installing to Samsung 950 Pro drives. I see no reason why this procedure would differ for a Samsung 960 series drive.

If you want Optimus you will have to opt for a P65xRx-G which has a mux to switch between Optimus ("MSHYBRID") and G-SYNC modes.

 

For clarification, you will need the adapter because the EVOC P775DM3-G only has mDP ports.

Optimus is dead, and on BGA laptops has been replaced with MSHYBRID...but this is an LGA laptop, so there is no MSHYBRID at all. I agree that Optimus/MSHYBRID offered virtually no battery life benefit, it is just an unfortunate marketing hype that only complicated and infringed on performance.

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Thanks for the replies Ember and Donald.

I'll keep the miniDP vs normalDP differences in mind, but it seems easily solved with an adaptor.

I've decided against the Smasung 960, as I couldn't justify the cost-to-benefit vs. Crucial MX300 and a Samsung 850 EVO. In other words, as long as their SSDs that should be enough performance.

I had intiall thought about the P650RP-G, but I don't believe Metabox offered them with the NIVIDIA 1070, only the 1060. I also had initial concerns about the lack of the 6700K vs the 6700/hq, but looking at the specs again there doesn't seem to be much difference. Indeed the P650RP-G is being offered with the 6820HK after Christmas, but this also seems to be not much of an increase. Anyway, avoiding Optimus seems like the way forward.

I've decided on the following specs and am ordering today. Thanks again to everyone. This is my fourth gaming laptop since 2007 and these forums have always been a wealth of information!

Metabox Prime-X P750DM2-G
15.6" FHD 1920 x 1080 IPS WVA Matte 60Hz LED with G-Sync
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5 VRAM - G-Sync
Intel Core i7-6700K Processor (8M Cache up to 4.2 GHz)
16GB DDR4 2400MHZ (1 x 16GB)
Crucial MX300 525GB SATA 3 M.2 SSD
Crucial MX300 525GB SATA 3 M.2 SSD
Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SATA3 SSD
No Secondary Hard Drive - Optional Upgrade
Intel 8260 AC Dual Band WIFI/BT (up to 867 Mbps)
No Optical Disc Drive - Optional Upgrade
No Operating System Selected - Install Your Own Operating System
1 Year Platinum + 1 Year Extended Premium Care Protection
Spare AC Adaptor 330W

 

You are not ordering it from HIDEVOLUTION???

 

The EVOC P650RP6 comes with the nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060, the EVOC P650RS-G comes with the nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070.

Your specs are nicely detailed, except you don't state which model you are getting.
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I'm live in Australia and wouldn't want to deal with the hassle of import costs etc.

My apologies, I'm getting the 'Metabox Prime-X P750DM2-G'. Ammended above.

 

I too have been looking and reading through this thread and had very similar points to this person but no one answered.

Homie, your in the same spot like me when it came between deciding what to get. I know I want a clevo but 15 or 17. I personally feel 15 is the sweet spot. I also like the fact that desktop graphics and CPU in a 15 inch form factor is GOD! I expect nothing less from a 17 inch version.

The only thing stopping me from getting the 15 is the fact that there is no 3K screen. Although ever since I was talking to @Phoenix and @Donald@HIDevolution , I have gathered beyond a shadow of a doubt that HIDEvolution is the way to go if you want the best out of a clevo laptop.

I like good color because i use the Adobe Suite a lot and need having accurate colors is good either way. Just look at the OLED screen from Alienware 13.... simply beautiful.

I have seen stock 6700K's running well on p750dm2's at 60 - 80 degrees celcius depending on the game or application but average was around 65 - 75.

As for a 1070? This GPU not only runs well on new titles with everything turned up, but paired with a 1080p screen that is a killer machine.
On top of that the 1080 GPU is 30% faster than the 1070 GPU. So you would have to decide whether or not 30% more graphics power is worth a 17in.

Specs aside, I personally love the design of the p750dm it is ALL BLACK and very professional. It is almost like a machine that looks weak and outdated but very professional (as far as the masses are concerned). However the p870DM does tempt me with its better sound due to a sub woofer and powerful design that I feel is a little over board with the lights.

Lastly, if the 15 inch clevo of today can hold desktop class CPU and GPU, then it will hold anything in the future comfortably. This is simply because Technology shrinks together with Heat!
I just hope the next gen Nvidia GPU and Intel CPU will fit and work in these machines. But heat will not be an issue!

In conclusion, p750dm or p870dm...... Both are "future Proof" investments, it comes down to SIZE alone...

You will ALWAYS want to go with K never standard. Why? Because you have more control of temperature and performance compared to the standard non K version. Never forget this in the future. It should be a rule of thumb.

Remember technology is not going to get bigger and hotter but smaller and cooler. K all the way!

 

Update on the 780W AC Adapter.

It is going into final testing, with the help of @Mr. Fox and others. Eurocom and HIDevolution.com expect to have it available in late December...or more likely very early January.

Price is $499.

It is not available on our website yet...so email me with your request and I will put you on the list.

 

I agree, and the K just isn't that much more expensive. We offer the Intel® Core™ i5-6600K delidded as well.

 

holy guacamole, thats some price tag right there then again, that was to be expected at such (im guessing) low production numbers.

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@jaybee83 How is your P750DM? Give me details! Do you like it? Do you want to go for the p870dm? Does this new power BLOCK excite you in getting the P870DM?

@Donald@HIDevolution That is INSANE! That is the same price as the Razer Core! LOL Do you have any pictures on this Mr. Donald?

 

My reaction exactly! Only I choked on some water.

 

I totally agree with this, even if you dont need the power, the fact that it is unlocked is totally worth it, specially in laptops.

 

soo, after i got my rockit i decided to delid my P775DM3 yesterday with pretty impressive results so far, i already posted them in the discord chat but will post them ofc here too, now i only have to hope i can push these 4.7Ghz


before max FAN -145mV UV and 4.2Ghz


after MAX Fan -145mV 4.2Ghz

i never ever thought i would be at only 61 °C, i mean sure the MAX Fan is much more powerful than the MAX Fan on my previous P771DM-G but holy shat that temps.

 

Can anyone confirm that the bult-in 1000M ethernet LAN can trully handle 1000Mbit ?
I have just got a new residential internet subscription at home and it is 1000Mbit, however with the laptop I can only measure about half the speed (latest Speedtest in my signature).

Any idea how to roll out any problem with the laptop? OS is installed on an SM951 NVMe SSD.

 

@Tentenkun

Don't be afraid of heat man, just go for a Silicon Lottery CPU delidded CPU and you're gold. I run 4.6GHz 24/7 and max temps are 85C, let alone if I run at stock speeds

First system I had was a barebone Clevo P870DM-G with a 6700K that couldn't even run stable at 4.2 GHz x4 (on all cores that is). Next system which was a Eurocom Sky X9 also had a 6700K, this time a bit better, it was able to do 4.3 GHz stable.

I have seen many users here complain about high temps even at stock speeds. The 6700K is a hit or miss, 50-50 chance to get a good one. Even if you don't want to overclock, spending a bit more to get a Silicon Lottery one ensures your CPU will run cooler overclocked or not. Giving you better thermals and longevity since the CPU won't be running hot constantly.
This Silicon Lottery CPU I got (rated to run @4.8GHz in a desktop) can run @ 4.7 GHz not very stable pr 4.6 GHz stable all day long with max temps of 85C no matter what I throw at it.

HIDevolution does a great job with thermal paste as they use the X Cross method which is the best for maximum thermal paste spread and the least air bubbles so don't worry





If you email [email protected] and give him your NBR Forum member username, you can get a small discount as well

Only HIDevolution offer Silicon Lottery and / or delidded CPUs (Delidding makes the CPU run cooler by as much as 10C)

Also, you never wanna buy a Clevo without the Prema BIOS, HIDevolution is a Prema Partner sos you'll get the Prema BIOS and VBIOS as soon as they are released:

Benefits of Prema BIOS:

• Fixes the biggest issue with these Clevo laptops where they would throttle the CPU as low as 2.5 GHz the moment both the CPU & GPU are under load due to current issues with the Clevo Stock BIOS/EC Firmware.
• The ability to disable other drives connected to your system without physically removing them from your laptop, this comes in handy when installing Windows as you never want to have more than one drive connected at the time you are installing Windows otherwise the Windows setup will place the boot files on the 2nd drive it sees which hurts performance and makes it a headache when creating system images or restoring since the boot files are not on the main drive.
• The ability to overclock, increase Turbo Power Limits and System IA/Core Current Limits
• The ability to enable Intel Speed Shift Technology (it is disabled in the stock BIOS)
• The ability to run RAM with speeds higher than the standard 2133 MHz. I am not talking about overclocking here, I am talking about actual RAM sticks that are rated to run at 2800 MHz for example like the G.Skill 64GB 2800 MHz kit I have. With the stock BIOS, they will not run above 2400 MHz. In the case of the P870DM3, the stock BIOS now supports up to 2666 MHz. I believe but not more, so the Prema BIOS is a must again
• Fixes the instability with the G.Skill 3000 MHz. RAM using XMP Profile 1 with timings of 16-18-18-18 where in the stock BIOS you would have constant crashes or not be able to boot altogether so you’re forced to use XMP Profile 2 which is slower with 18-18-18-18 timings.
• The ability to enable CSM for those who want to install other OSes like Windows 7
• The ability to undervolt the CPU as the stock voltage is way too high which causes the CPU to overheat much quicker and thus throttle under load.
• The ability to enable or disable CPU AES instructions or Virtualization
• The ability to disable hibernation from the BIOS
• Sets the default keyboard lights from blue to white which suits more tastes

Benefits of Prema VBIOS:

• Power throttle disabled
• Over-voltage slider enabled and adjusted (up to a maximum of 1.2v)
• Activated and adjusted thermal slider (to keep it cooler if desired)
• Core overclock slider limit raised
• Power consumption meter activated
• Fixed 3D voltage base-line in order to stabilize OCs and voltage-match both cards in SLI systems (based on average ASIC)
• Thermal protection @ 92c (once*91c are breached the system throttles volts and clocks in order to protect it)
• Protection against Furmark and Kombustor GPU burnout (AVOID those software even with stock vBIOS)!
  

 

Thank you, but as I wrote two pages ago and earlier in the thread, I've ordered the 17'' with the 1080 and the i5 6600k. It was actually shipped on monday and now should be somewhere between Portugal and Italy. I'm not liking much their national courier tracking system, all I see is that it's "In progress" without knowing if at least it's already in Italy or not. But I'm just paranoid with couriers lately, and I'm digressing

I would have been happy enough with undervolting a non-K processor (it should be possible, right? ), for my gaming requirements. Or that's what I was thinking, then some wise guys here put me in the right diretion

The 17 version will be harder to carry around no doubt, but I've bought a car on April and I'm barely traveling with other means (work commuting is a non-issue ). I should be fine.

I still need a trolley or backpack tho.

Edit

Thank you. I'll certainly go for the Prema BIOS once it will be available on donations. I don't think I'll go for a Silicon Lottery CPU anytime soon, but it could change sometime in the future (maybe with next CPU generations, even)

 

Before you choke, keep in mind the 2x 330W + Converter box is $360. The new 780W is SOOO much better in so many ways. We have already received several orders just since posting about it today.

No pictures yet.
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Hope I made it onto your list!

 

I apologize, I should have mentioned...when you email, please include your Notebookreview User ID

 

how does it look like?

 

It's supposed to be a little bit bigger than just one of the 330W PSUs and not too much heavier.

 

No pictures yet...will post once we have them.

 

Yes Sir...

I will have the 780W AC Adapter up on our website for pre-order later tonight. Just search for 780W and it will come right up.

 

is it a single unit or does it use a bridge?

 

Looks like a black metal box with a screen and an IEC C14 connector and a power output connector. At least that's what I imagine it looks like.

 

That pretty well describes it.

 

is there actually a point in having a 780W adaptor for the P775DM3-G which has a single VGA? Will it help with the power throttle the VGA is having when power limit in the vBIOS is reached ?

 

i love it still trying to get my ram to run stable at 3000 mhz, i might follow @Mr. Fox suggestion and get myself a license for TB (is the 16$ personal license fine for one year usage on one system or would you recommend the lifetime one?) also still massaging 4.8 ghz on the cpu to get it fully stable, but the tinkering is fun ^^
im unsure if id ever switch to a 17incher, im just a sucker for 15" machines the 780w psu does excite me, but only due to my general curiosity concerning tech ^^ seeing as i cant even max out my current 330W brick, its highly doubtful ill go for that monster. still, looking forward to pics, specs and user reviews on that thing!

Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10

 

Only if you are exceeding about 400W from the wall. It would not impact system behaviour otherwise.

 

No amount of PSU capacity will help with throttling unless it's actually shutting down from the draw. Up until then, the EC is the limiting factor. But if you have the Prema BIOS/EC/VBIOS, I'm sure you can easily push the laptop over 330W.

 

Thanks for the info.

That 5ms response time is very tempting, but I would like to retain G-Sync. Maybe I should drop down in size to the P750DM2-G which has a 120hz 5ms response screen and similar internal specs. I don't need the 1080, so the lack of that in this model isn't an issue. One thing I am concerned about is the cooling though. The P775 is bigger and theoretically has space for cooling while not costing much more. Can anybody comment on the differences between these two models in this respect?

 

No point getting it.. The 330W can last till up to 410W, which you are unlikely to pull with the P775..

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thx for that btw, is the 780W psu on your website now? searched a bit but didnt find anything...

 

It's available on HID for preorder.

 

got it: http://www.hidevolution.com/780w-la...-evoc-p775dmx-p870dmx-msi-gt-models-5815.html

too bad though, no picture or spec sheet

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Can anybody comment about the cooling capability of the P750DM2-G with the 6700k and the 1070?

If I undervolt it slightly am I going to be annoyed by the fans at gaming load?

 

My P775DM3 arrived this morning. I'm still setting up my essential programs, and that will take a while, but I'll make sure to test a few games in the meantime

Anything you guys want to know or recommend? What should I do for stability testing?

 

Games with a side helping of games.

 

No problem, doc!

Steam isn't cooperating, tho. I've copied games files from the desktop, where I've been playing until yesterday, to the laptop, as I did more than a couple times in the past, but it's still stubbornly downloading everything.
Oh well, I'll just have to wait some more

 

Weird, it should rebuild them based on the data there, did you double check you placed them in the right folder?

 

I checked if the files I've copied were good, if they were in the right place, if steam wasn't overwriting them. I made steam check game cache integrity, but as it was trying to download them, I don't think it really checked the right files.
In the end, I let it download overnight, but that's strange

 

If it happens again try getting steam to start the downloads. When they have created the folders close steam totally and then replace the folders with the complete copies and re-open steam and see if it picks it up.

 

Closing steam was the only thing I didn't do. I'll try it next time. Another issue tho, I can't seem to get the Synaptic Touchpad Application to start. Driver seems to have been installed correctly, all the right services and processes are there in the task manager, but I can't start the touchpad software for customizations. No .exe file in /Program Files/Synaptics/SynTP does anything, if I go to Mouse Properties through Control Panel, there are no options to start any application from there (I remember there was in the P650, stumbled upon a similar problem in the past).

I have a "HID-compliant mouse" above "Synaptics SMBus TouchPad" in device manager, is that supposed to be there?

There's a bunch of .wmv files showing examples of the touchpad functions and capabilities, so I believe there should be an application to configure them. What am I missing here?

 

hello there,

I've got 2 problems with my p775.
underclocked to 4x 3,5 Ghz @ -150mV

1. It suddenly turns off and starts again. temps are around 40°. browser opened. but no heavy stuff to do for the CPU. This happens most of the times 2-10 minutes after turned on.

2. I'm using a Second screen and have the Laptop Screen turned off, but the backlight is still on. I can manually turn it off again, but as soon as i move the mouse the backlight turns on again.

any suggestions?

 

1. Does it do the same without the undervolt?

2. How is the laptop screen turned off?

 

1. I will check on the undervolting

2. i use the shortcut Fn+F2