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3 questions:
Is that the latest 1.05.06 bios?

When can we have it?

How many kidneys will it cost?

 

three at the least, naturally, so that not one single person can afford it

 

Grizzly Conductonaut is nasty, so difficult to remove. It stained the CPU IHS and copper heatsink. I replaced it with Coolermaster E1, waiting for Gelid Extreme GC-3 to give it a try. I am not sure LM did a considerably better job in my case. Will give it another try after GC-3.

AIDA64, stress test below:

 

edit: removed, mistake on my part

also, liquid metal pastes are all the same when it comes to staining and non-removable residues, conductonaut wont be an exception there.

as for regular pastes, ICD leaves the most intense stains, other pastes like GCE or TGK dont do that.

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And how would I fix uneven heatsink with liquid metal?

 

I ordered 70% isopropyl alcohol from here. Will it remove the stain or is it 'ggwp'?

 

it will help a little bit, but wont remove all residues. as far as ive seen, ull probably need to sand down the ihs and heatsink to remove everything.

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On a side note, I have vBIOS 86.04.2A.00.2B for the GTX 1080, which was built on Summer...is there a newer one, maybe one with better adjusted voltage and clocks and less throttle?

 

I think I may be late to the party here but I'm seeing my OC throttled to 4.0GHz when both the CPU and GPU are in use at full tilt. Is that a limitation of the power of the P775 or is it down to the BIOS?

I'm currently running a rock solid stable clock of 4.4GHz but if I play something CPU and GPU intensive my CPU drops to 4.0GHz and doesn't jump back up until I either reset the OC or reboot the PC.

Apologies, it's difficult to track so many pages on the one thread.

 

Don't rush to update to newer BIOS if everything works for you. Give it some time to verify stability and performance before going for it.

 

very wisely said!

 

Hi everyone, I was looking at getting a eurocom sky X4E2 (P750).

I went though a bit of this thread (207 pages is a lot) and there is a lot of bios customizing, overclocking/undervolting and repasting...etc

I've only owned the asus G75 series, I've never had to touch the bios or repaste. Is the P750 a laptop I have to always tweak the bios and keep an eye on temps and keep doing repastes? Or do you guys just like tinkering, overclocking/repasting and tweaking the bios etc?

I just want to buy the laptop, possibly do my first repaste (1070GTX and I7 6700 non k for power savings ) and probably willl not overclock as it's strong enough to run the 1 game which is the reason I'm buying a new laptop.
Is there anything I should consider when buying this model? Do I have to keep updating and tweaking my bios? Is this a laptop I can just install my drivers and OS and go and not have worry about anything failing or overheating?

Thanks

 

Actually there is. Without tweaking in MSI Afterburner, the GTX 1080 is not stable in every software with this laptop. Due to high voltage and high heat the core clock is all over the place from 17xx Mhz to 1860 Mhz causing FPS drops. Even if you run Fire Strike Stress test, most of the times you will not pass with the 95-96% result (97% required).

 

well, thats normal though, nvidia boost 3.0 in the works for ya. it uses the available thermal headroom to boost clocks over the base clock and adjusts minutely to changing conditions, thus u get fluctuating clocks. according to nvidia (and also most OEMs and vendors), a gpu only throttles once it falls BELOW the BASE clock. anything else is considered "boosting", only less than 100% boost

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If the heatsink is just too far from the card, you can resolve it with a shim. If it's angled relative to the die, you will need washers or something similar to adjust the MXM card angle. If the heatsink is actually not flat, then you'll either have to lap it or accept that you're probably not going to get a good fit.

 

I have a few resistors piercing out from the GPU black tape. Need to be careful with them. I insulated them with a tape.

 

Changed thermal paste from E1 to Gelid Extreme. After 10 minutes of stress testing the system, the same temperatures were reached. Very disappointed with this overhyped paste. I spreaded a thick layer on both the GPU and CPU. I will give LM another try

 

You're not supposed to use a thick layer. The more paste there is between the die and heatsink, the worse the performance. Did you check your heatsink fit?

 

Grizzly performed better now, around 2-5C cooler. I'll stick with it for now.

The heatsink seems to be more or less even.

 

I have just learned that the standard eDP cable is not enough for the 3K 120hz panel so that needs to be changed too...starting to get a little nervous here. Its not a problem to just change the screen but to change the cable is another story. I already repasted the laptop, but that is as far as I got. Removing the KB is okay, but I have no idea how to remove the upper plate to get access to the display cable connector on the mb.

 

You have to remove all the screws from the underside, then remove 3 or 4 ribbon cables and the speaker connector cable that are connected to devices screwed into the underside of the top cover, that will then let you remove the top cover so you can then replace the cable.

There are 2 screws under the fins of each heat sink, and you may also have to remove the fans.

If you download the service manual it gives you an idea of how to dismantle the chassis

 

Changing between XMP profiles is starting to get a real pain...when changing profile sometimes the laptop reboots without a problem, but sometimes (like now) I have to unplug the AC adapter and remove the battery for a few minutes or it wont boot and only gives black screen...how hell does this and all previous P775DM1-G and P775DM3-G BIOS releases pass QC with a bug like this?!

Not to mention that in DOS environment RAM testers seem to stop...HCI Memtest stops at 35% and Windows memory test stops at 10% overall test...with default and xmp 1 too...starting to get a bit annoying.

 

What speed are you setting?

 

3000 Mhz @ CL16

 

this is an indicator that the settings u put in are not stable. have u run tm5 or memtest86+ to make sure your ram runs stable?

also, which brand do you sport? if its corsair, then that seems to be a recurring thing of the sticks being unstable at the xmp1 timings...

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On default settings they run at 2666 Mhz CL18, you need to select XMP 1 to run them at the advertised speed (3000 Mhz CL16).

 

yes i know, i have the same sticks and they dont run stable either in my case, xmp1 just results in a black screen. right now im tightening up 2666 mhz, got it down to 14-17-5 from 18-19-39, memtest86+ overnight stable

btw, just setting 3000 mhz and calling it a day without checking for stability increases the chances of having lower net performance than stock 2666 mhz due to invisible error corrections running in the background...

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Most people probably dont check because they assume that since it is advertised at those speeds, the manufacturer already made sure that it is stable.

 

Hello guys, I've just finished reading the entire thread because I'm thinking of upgrading from my almost 2 years old, 980m equipped P650 to a GTX 10xx laptop.

From what I understood, the 15'' and the 17'' models are somewhat different at least in the cooling system, and most people own the 17'' one. I consider the sweet spot to be 15'', but I find the GTX 1080 appealing so I'm still not sure which way should I go

Anyway, I have some questions about the efficiency of the cooling system. Am I right in thinking that if I go with for example an i5 6600 (non K) the laptop should be able to run more silent? Seems like all who have cooling/noise issues have a GTX 1080 and a i7 6700k, that tend to run much more hot (although I understand it doesn't throttle).
90% of my usage is gaming/browsing/watching anime or films anyway; rarely I would do some video editing, and that's where my current laptop does present some issues, stuttering a bit here and there. So I don't think I can justify going for the i7 with my usage scenario. Also I don't know much about overclocking or undervolting a system and related issues. Not that I wouldn't want to learn eventually, I like to tinker but I want a stable system for ̶p̶l̶a̶y̶ daily use.

Do you guys think it'll be worth to go for the gtx 1080 and make the jump to 17''? And if I choose a non-K cpu, would it be easier to have the laptop run cooler? I'm not considering the updated P6xx basically because I don't want to deal with Optimus if I can avoid it

 

the sticks themselves are probably not the issue here, its more of a combo of the respective system AND the RAM modules. it really depends on what kinda system corsair uses to validate their RAM...

 

2666@14 is faster than 3000@16: 0.00525 vs 0.00533.

Can you attach your RAM profile (screenshot/pic) with 14 timings please?

 

When I changed UEFI settings too, there was no problem setting the ram to 3000 mhz. Why did it reboot then if this setting is "not stable"? Standard Windows memory diagnostic ended with no errors, going to try another memtest now.

 

Fired up Memtest86, 2 errors so far (XMP 1) in 15 min!


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not necessarily, especially since CL is only one out of a total of 12 (or more) timings that influence the RAM performance to some degree. the Mhz/CL ratio is just an approximation.

sure, will do that once ive tightened all the settings at the moment, im through with 7 out of the 12 timings in total. just takes a while, since i check each setting with overnight memtest86+ for 100% stability.

thats the thing, there are varying degrees of "unstable". there is bios boot stable, windows boot stable, windows stress test stable (i use TM5), and then there is memtest86+ stable only way to be absolutely sure your RAM performs without errors is an overnight run of memtest86+ with zero errors. i even had the case once or twice that a setting passed one pass of memtest86+, but showed 2-3 errors during an overnight run (=several passes)

 

I agree, 1 pass of Memtest is never enough, we've sometimes had to leave it to run 8-10 passes before errors are found

 

Have you tried 2800@14-16?

 

My laptop is not powering on now. Black screen, no bios, full fans on and then turns off. I suspect and blame XMP P1 RAM

 

Remove AC adapter and battery for 5-10 min. It will boot after that.

 

either that or remove battery, ac adapter and cmos battery, press power button continiously for 20 seconds and then try again

also, i highly doubt that 2800-14-16 would be stable if my stability limit at 2666 is already 14-17

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core ratio limit override was set to 38 by reseller. After Fn+D reset, it is at 40. Which one should I keep?

 

Core by default is 42-40-40-40

 

I am trying 133x11@15-18-18-39-470. Benchmarks are outperforming XMP P1@3000MHz. Will check stability this night

 

Try 100x15@ 15-17-17-42-550 (note that last timing can cause long term stability issues if it's too low).

 

i was surprised to see the RFC timing being so tight at stock! i barely managed to get it down from 467 stock to 465!

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Thanks will give it a try. What about the rest? RRD 4, RTP 10 and 1.2V?

@DRevan, should i go for 42 on all cores?

 

Follow your XMP timings on that (I assume they are 3ghz sticks?)

 

Did a test with Memtest (original) for 7:30 hours, bits in error 1, max contiguous errors 1

 

I thought people would like to know that the only thing holding me back from posting anything on my P775DM3 is the delivery of my Samsung 960 Pro. The situation for the SSD is quite bad, and basically it's a mess. I got a good deal for them (I actually got both 512 GB and 1 TB sticks) so I have to sit tight and wait.

As a little teaser, this messenger bag fits the laptop: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tech-Air-capacity-protection-lifetime/dp/B000X7U9I8. The laptop goes into the main (expandable) compartment, not the padded laptop compartment (accessories, cans etc. can go in there without them sticking out weirdly though). Only shortfall is that this bag is a bit of a hard find now.

Ah also, this laptop is NOT light. Pun intended in every way you can imagine because they all apply (#sciencejokes ). However, for a guy who weighs 50 kg this is also not an excessively heavy laptop either, given I walk a bit over one klick to work.

Hadriel

 

Anyone know if it's possible to get the EC02 firmware for the P775DM3? I put the EC03 on and am not happy with it so was hoping to be able to take it back

 

Has anyone tinkered with the GPU OC tool in the Clevo software?

I set 105/100 Mhz for the VGA and the results are...interesting.
Temp is under 80C even without undervolt in MSI and I did not gain as much extra points in 3DMark as I should have with the OC, but still the score is slightly higher. Probably a different voltage/clock combination kicks in with this OC in the background resulting in lower temps but higher performance.
In Fire Stike I get about 800 more points, in Ultra I get about 200 more points and in Time Spy I got 300 more points compared to the UV in MSI or the default settings. And the temps are the same as with UV.

Not many times I have seen temps decrease with an OC which results in performance increase