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    *** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. SynergyUK

    SynergyUK Notebook Consultant

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    My 775 turned up today so will be setting up this evening.

    What control centre do you guys recommend and what tool can be used to undervolt/retain undervolt?

    Thanks.
     
  2. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    undervolt CPU = XTU, PremaBios, ThrottleStop
    undervolt GPU = Nvidia Inspector, EVGA Precision X, MSI Afterburner

    as for best control center version, ill leave that to the actual owners here ^^
     
  3. SynergyUK

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    Brilliant. Thanks for the response.

    Do they apply the undervolt during startup? Or is it something that has to be adjusted/run every time?
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    u can adjust all tools to set the desired clocks and voltages at boot. or do it yourself via the windows task scheduler.

    Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
     
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    The easiest option for CPU is just to use the Clevo control center. It's easy to use, probably already installed, and I've had no issues with it.
     
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    Voltages can go crazy

    Power plan got reseted, no idea why, then voltage were 0.7V or so on CPU (full dynamic), computer hung up, just showed that everything stopped responding and never moved until restart.

    Thing was fixed by changing power plan in windows to max and setting CPU to never be under 100% while on AC
     
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    MotoBlaine Notebook Enthusiast

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    just got my 775dm3 about 5 days ago

    1080gtx
    6700k
    16gb ram
    525gb mx300 ssd
    128 gb m.2 Samsung 850 evo
    upgrading m.2 to 960 pro when they come out !

    thanks everyone for the tips and info I have found here!
     
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  8. SynergyUK

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    Got my 775DM3 up and running.

    What a stunning machine. Have applied a -150 under volt on the CPU using the control center but wondering what sort of under volt I should apply to the GPU?
     
  9. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Why would you undervolt the GPU?

    You should be seeing max 70C on it with fans on OC and ~85 with fans on adaptive at max usage.

    I'm seeing 1.3 V on CPU in idle and considered underclocking, but if it works well, why fix it?
     
  10. SynergyUK

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    What sort of temp are you seeing after a few rounds of heaven?

    I just want the machine to run as cool as possible without having to delid and CLU.
     
  11. Georgel

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    Max GPU, fans on OC, everything on max, ~70C on GPU (never gets over this point with fans on OC, it gets higher without fans on OC)

    CPU - about 80

    After one or more rounds of heaven, it doesn't matter, the results remain the same. Very consistent.

    madVR will pull 200W on GPU at max.
     
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  12. SynergyUK

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    Stock paste?

    2 rounds of heaven with CPU undervolt my GPU hovers at around 73 with OC fan profile.
     
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    Ambient temperatures and silicon properties will impact exact results between machines.
     
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    If you can get the same performance with lower temperatures/noise, why not?
     
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  15. SynergyUK

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    Just played an hour of battlefield 1.

    GPU temps maxed out about 56c and CPU around 66c.

    One very very happy chap here.
     
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    knibbler Notebook Evangelist

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    Thats great! Is your screen 1080p? Or 4k
     
  17. SynergyUK

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    1080p. I really didnt think I had the need for 4k.

    Games still look amazing at this res and its less demanding on the GPU I suppose.

    I did whack the resolution scale up to 150% on BF1, it looked amazing and still maintained 75fps but the temps and fan noise increased beyond my comfortable level.
     
  18. Mobius 1

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    265+ on my desktop 1080
     
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    Jarred Jameson Notebook Guru

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    How high was the noise level?
     
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    Not a good idea to play with GPU voltages as they are, and you don't need lower temps.

    No game takes 1080 at 100% on FHD so far, and temps don't go over 70C at 100%. Noise is so and so, but if you do take it to 100%, you'll get noise regardless of what you do. It's impossible to avoid, but it's still okay. madVR runs in really good options and the noise is ok to watch a movie on speakers.



    By the way, why does everyone hate the speakers on this laptopy? They're pretty good!
     
  21. brown11c

    brown11c Newbie

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    I have a quick question, I am looking at getting a P750dm2-g, but am wondering if it would be worth getting the 1070 now or upgrading down the road if I feel I need it and money is not as tight as it is. I believe the 1060 should do fine for 3D Modeling which I would be doing...and of course still do great on games but I'm wondering what other peoples opinions are. Should I spend the $230 now or wait a year or two and spend close to $1000 before selling my 1060 to recoup some of that and maybe spend a total of $300-$400 to upgrade? I'm thinking of just getting the i5-6600k as that should be enough for everything I will be doing including light to medium programming and again should I feel the need to upgrade then I can upgrade down the road when I'm not so tight (I'm a college student). What do you guys that have the 1070 or 1060 on this or the similar models feel?
     
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  22. iunlock

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    Definitely upgrade now and do what you 'gotta' do to get the better GPU. It'll save you a lot of hassle, because the market for a GTX 1060 will be slim, more so as time passes.

    Opt for the GTX 1070. In fact, for what it's worth the GTX 1070 Notebook, has more CUDA cores than the desktop 1070. If money is tight, save some pennies, recycle cans, do what you have to do in order to go with the GTX 1070 and it should serve you well for your gaming and 3D Modeling.

    Whatever you do and this is just my personal opinion, avoid falling for the 1060. It'd be a waste IMO, because for a little more you could have the GTX 1070, which is a much more powerful chip.
     
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    Hello everyone!

    My old Clevo x7200 finally died and I'm about to pull the trigger and get the p775dm3 to replace it.
    Specs I'm planning to get are:

    1440p screen
    i7-6700k
    GTX 1070
    16GB ram
    250GB Samsung 850 EVO M.2 SSD
    1TB HDD

    My biggest concerns are; is the 1070 good enough for the 1440 screen while gaming or should I just get the 1080 screen?

    Also, which reseller should I go with in the US? Xotic, where I got my x7200, or should I go with HIDEvolution who I've heard a lot of good things about?

    If I go with HIDEvolution, would the thermal paste upgrade (liquid ultra) be worth it on the build I want if I'm not trying to over clock?

    Sorry for the questions and thank you for your time and assistance.
     
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  24. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    I'm a big fan of the QHD screens and yes the GTX 1070 will be sufficient enough to push 1440p gaming.

    Whether you'll be over clocking or not, if you can get the liquid metal done from the reseller, go for it :) Especially for it being covered under warranty alone...that in itself is worth it.

    As for who to go with, I'd message each one of them with a list of questions and see who answers back quickly and thoroughly. Business is business and we're the customers. :) Personally, I'd go with a company who is transparent with no funny business. Get anything that you are promised in written form and it's the resellers who need to earn your business, not the other way around. We have a lot of choices of where and who to buy from, which is good and most of them are great choices.

    There are a few resellers who linger in these forums so maybe send them a PM/message and spark up a convo...go with your gut feeling and what makes you happy, while taking into account the testimonials from other fellow members...
     
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    iunlock, I didn't think about how quickly the 1060 will most likely lose its value as it would be passed by for the 1070 and 1080's out there. Thanks for your opinion, I will most likely get it then and can make it work.
     
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    Always go with the highest performing GPU, and highest performing CPU!

    The CPU is used in all the things you might do during a day, it's extra power will be felt in any activity, a few pennies will make a difference.

    As for the GPU, 1060 - or the second hand market for it - is not great. Consider this, you might want to buy a new GPU, from a second hand market. Would you buy 1060? Then why would someone buy it? I personally don't understand why those laptops come with 1060 in the first place, but at any rate, getting the stronger option will be more efficient in the long run. Not to mention that upgrading is not very easy!
     
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    Noise levels were enough for my wife to complain. Taking into account she didn't mind the noise on my p870dm with a 980 inside.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    And what about GTX 1070 to 1080 upgrade, worth it?
     
  29. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Just some fun facts:


    Going from a...

    1060 to 1070 is big. (768 more CUDA's = 60% More)

    1060 to 1080 is HUGE (1,280 more CUDA's = 100% More)

    1070 to 1080 a healthy leap (512 more CUDA's = 25% More)

    However, it all depends if you really demand all the power.

    * Regarding the 1070 and my post earlier talking about the CUDA cores...crazy isn't it?

    Notebook 1070 to Desktop 1070 - (128 more CUDA's = ~7% More)
    [​IMG]
    Note: The GTX 1080 Notebook's GPU Clock is 1566 / 1733 MHz

    Unless you are playing at 4K, gaming on the 1070 and 1080 will be pretty much the same at 1080p and 1440p. Well you may feel it a little at 1440p with max settings, but not enough to really notice...either way you should be well over 60fps on most titles.

    Have you considered the P775DM3? :p
     
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    Mine is coming... soon.

    Hadriel
     
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    Nice stats, thanks a lot. I am getting the P775DM3 model most like with a 4K@60Hz screen, no G Sync. PC Specialist is not selling 3K@120Hz yet. Also, I do not think P775DM3-G come with a 4K screen that supports G-Sync (unlike the GPU).

    So, most likely, I will go for the GTX 1080. However, I will have to downgrade the stock model from PC Specialist: crappy 1TB HDD and crappy 4gb 2133Mhz RAM. SM961 is out of stock at PCS and only 2133Mhz RAM.

    After that, I will upgrade it to 256/512 SM961 SSD, and 32Gb 2800 or 3000Mhz RAM (gaming, development, graphics design, VMs).

    P.S. I am almost convinced to go for the 6700K instead of 6600K.
     
  32. iunlock

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    My pleasure. I too have the 4K screen and it's really nice. Hmm as for GSYNC doesn't all the 4K panels have GSYNC on the 775? Mine does.

    The most important thing IMO is the GPU and getting that correct from the get go. Everything else can be upgraded with ease like you've listed.
     
  33. SynergyUK

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    I'm going to give mine a good gaming session over the weekend and see if I can tolerate the fan noise. If i can't then I really may consider returning it. The difference between the p870dm and this on full load is night and day.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    Is it AUO B173ZAN01.1 model? I do not think the panel supports G Sync. In fact, PCS notifies you on check-out that the 3/4K does not support G Sync. :(

    @Sherlock0486, is it the 3XS model? How bad is the noise?
     
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    How odd. My 4K has GSYNC so I guess there are two variants of it being offered. Hmm...

    The noise of the P775DM3 is like a soft hair dryer.
     
  36. SynergyUK

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    Yeah like a hair dryer is a good description. It wouldn't bother me because I game with a head set but it's the wife who mentioned it being excessive! If I return the machine I'll probably got for an Alienware with a 6700hq and 1070.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    P775DM3-G ordered from PC Specialist. Includes i7-6700k, GTX 1080 and 4K display, 4gb 2133Mhz RAM (possibly will upgrade myself to 32gb 3000Mhz) and 2TB HDD (will upgrade with 512Gb SM961).

    I was considering forking out another 200-300 GBP and go for SLI 1070 P870DM3-G, but that dual 220/330W PSU is annoying af.
     
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  38. Georgel

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    Read everything about AW before going with them...

    They have some... things... that might not be as cool for everyone.
     
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    It's a more convenient package all around if you intend to move around it's true. Also the drivers are easier to deal with on the single 1080.
     
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    And then you have people who actually pay to go to a gym and lift weights, poor bastards, a one year subscription could go into a P870DM3-G with dual PSU. All our P870DM3-G owners sent feedback saying they feel like true power-lifters, i think one of them is actually aiming for the EU Strongman championship title. The Mountain dude from GOT might just be in trouble... unless he buys one too... :O
     
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    Have you seen one of those power bricks in person?

    They are not necessarily heavy, but really big... Pretty hard to carry around due to both size and weight constraints.

    Also, I would not put the power brick in the same box as the laptop...

    Having two of those is a bit annoying and I'm sure most P775 users are 100% happy with their purchase performance wise. While getting better, SLI are still hit and miss, especially outside of games.
     
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    Oh but have you seen the Everki Titan? Swallows my NP9873, dual power bricks, tablet + charger and has room for some clothes too.
     
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    I´ve built some P870DM3 :p
    I was just joking btw, i was talking about the full weight of Unit + 2x PSU, it is a bit... well... too much for me i must say, it´s not a laptop to carry around everyday. I usually have a ultrabook + a P75 or P77 at home.
     
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    Oh yes... dat weight...

    I need to travel with a backpack and a few audiophile items, and even a P775 + 1 power brick is a bit much, given that even with a backpack + laptop side bag + another backpack, I still can barely fit everything I need...

    Though, it's fun to see them P870 with their bells and whistles and their dual PSU designs. A single 1080 can pull 200W + a 6700K can pull 90W from socket. This leaves a 30W headroom for a 330W PSU. It would had been simpler for them to have made a single 480W PSU instead of a dual design, just sayingXD

    Imagine how two PSUs look sandwitched :D
     
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    On the go you could have an undervolt profile and cable mod a pair of slim PSUs to work together. A bit expensive to get all the pieces together but doable. That or have SLI at home and disable it on the road with a single 330w.
     
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    Guys, how can i apply an undervolt via the BIOS?

    I can see the option but it will only allow me to go in a positive direction.
     
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    It's strange like that isn't it?
    You can apply an undervolt in the clevo control centre, restart, and then uninstall control centre. The undervolt sticks in the bios, it looks positive but is actually negative.... you can confirm it hwmonitor or such like.
     
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    I thought that was wierd too.
     
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    So im having an issue with my new p775dm-3
    Today after tuning my new baby it said i entered my pin too many times (which i did not)


    Windows 10
    Set up my computer a few days ago perfect! Fingerprint and pin was working just fine .. today it said i couldnt enter my pin or fingerprint..... i tried to reset pin by removing pin / fingerprint and now i cant even set a pin or firgerprint. When i try to add a pin the menu to set a pin comes up. i put pin in and click ok. then nothing happens after the pin entry screen dissapears....
     
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    This sounds like a windows problem, software, not hardware..

    Sadly I've been having a ton of software problems myself, but eventually I've managed to set them right.
     
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