*** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

I cannot configure a single GPU in here in the UK in the P870DM3-G model. PCS or mySN sell 1070 or 1080 in SLI only.

Regarding the CPU, after seeing some synthethic benchmarks, I do not think that 100GBP would justify a slight bump in performance moving from 6600K to 6700K.

And what kind of vapor chamber are you talking about, any links, please?

 

The T shaped heatsink isn't so bad is it? not like we have had many people compare it to the vapor chamber, sadly .
From my understanding Clevo and heatsinks is hit or miss, and from the temps of the vapor chamber laptops out the box I can't say I'm too impressed, I'd love to see a side by side comparison between the vapor chamber HS and the T shaped HS, I think we might be surprised at the results .
I have the sneaking suspicion that the larger the heatsink is, the more chances you get at it being warped .
Can't deny all that copper is sexy as hell, and it should in theory cool way better, but not sure that is the case in reality, you might be better off with a small unwarped heatsink, rather than a large warped one .

I ordered the P870dm2 from Dreamachines, with single 1080, they don't offer it on their website but they asked Clevo directly and Clevo is making it, so seems like there is a possibility to get it in Europe now, just need to ask around and hope your reseller is willing to ask Clevo, that and you will have to wait, as they will need to have it built specifically with Clevo (so 4-6 weeks) .
So far Dreamachines have been awesome every step of the way, and plus side is they are a Prema partner .

 

DM3 1080 Sli use vapor chamber heatsink *The Grid* And up to 25% more power with 6700K is something you I want spend money on. You need up to 4.9/5.0 GHz for 6600K to match a stock clock 6700K in Cinebench R11.5
http://hwbot.org/benchmark/cinebenc...Id=processor_4016&cores=4#start=0#interval=50
Or push 6600K@+6.0 GHz to match my OC'd 6700K in Cinebench R11.5 and R15. Forget that clockspeed for 6600K in laptops!!

 

Wow...Very impressive results. However, 5+ Ghz seems a bit unrealistic with air cooling in Clevos

What about warranty, temperature, stability and lifespan of that OC CPU?

 

Air cooling on 5GHz is easy for papusan since he's a cheater that lives in sub-zero environment.

Just walk out of the house and you can overclock extreme on air.

 

Here's a rare video review of the p775dm3 (Origin PC) by mobiletechreview:


Says the fans are loud, but cpu stays cool in 55-60 range and gpu maxes in high 70s during her gaming sessions (but more general comments on temps and not much specifics on which games, play times, settings etc).

 

For temps you can find more info here.

 

Wish they would bring some to Romania...

What is the best case scenario when selling a P775 after a few months of usage in case they bring single 1080 in Romania?

 

In Canada clevos sell like crap. If theres no alien or bug of some kind on it or flashy red accents..nobody seems to want them. Even if its twice the power they dont seem to care.

 

I think it's really not any different elsewhere in the world. Clevo is a niche brand that is virtually unknown to the average user; doesn't help that many resellers are just small one- to five-man enterprises with really amateurish corporate identity design and generic-brand names, so you're not exactly gonna impress people by telling them "I have a Prostar laptop".

 

Very true. As much as enthusiasts desire to let it be known of what true power houses are, it's also up to the OEM and resellers to up the game in brand recognition to even step foot onto the world stage; or it'll forever remain a sub par garage band operation gig no matter how good it is.

Think Starbucks. "It ain't about the coffee...in fact the coffee sucks IMO and according to national surveys." <-- = --> Alienware. -> Although it doesn't have the best coffee (hardware) it sure knows how to market and with decent coffee to back it up for what it is.

Let's not forget that Clevo has bga machines as well. If AW decides to ever bring back a DTR, Clevo at the current rate that its going now could run into some big trouble.

For an OEM already hanging by a thread, help us help you. Give us something to work with here... innovation, better QC, better style / logo etc...





::iunlock::

 

Well, at least we can claim to be the deathpunk brigade of notebook users .

 

Awesome! I've been working on a new PC build for about 8 months now, and I finally got tired of using my old laptop. Even though I've already got so much invested into my desktop, which is now almost finished, I bought this new laptop through Xoticpc:

SAGER NP9152-S (CLEVO P750DM2) (I'm still not sure if most people refer to the Sager brand or the Clevo brand numbers when describing their laptop but judging by the name of this thread, I'm assuming the Clevo brand)
"The Cooling Package" - IC Diamond Thermal Compound + Copper Cooling Upgrade
15.6” 4K QFHD 16:9 Display with Matte Finish w/ G-SYNC Technology (3840x2160)
Redline Boost My Operating System
Custom Graphic Wrap [A+B+C Surface]
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1070 (8GB) GDDR5
256GB Samsung 950Pro NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD
512GB Samsung 950Pro NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD (added myself)
2 x 1TB Samsung 850 EVO Series SSDs RAID0 (added the 2nd drive myself and setup RAID0)
Intel® Dual Band AC 8260 802.11 A/AC/B/G/N 2.4/5.0GHz + Bluetooth™ 4.0

Those are the specs of my new laptop. Does anyone know what the capabilities are on this laptop for overclocking? I know everyone is playing the silicon lottery, but I've never overclocked anything in a laptop before. That's what I do with my desktop, but at least with my desktop, I know exactly which make, model, ASIC, brand, etc of my GPUs so I can OC them well knowing exactly what I've got, and I can also flash a custom BIOS on it so I can squeeze everything I can from it. Plus, since I have a custom waterloop on my desktop along with tons of temp sensors in multiple spots of each waterloop and full control of the flow rate inside the waterloop, I know approximately where my limits are before I start tweaking the clock speeds, voltages, timings, etc. With this laptop, I feel like I'm flying blind because I don't have the same capabilities.

Do most people use this software that comes pre-loaded to OC the CPU, memory, and GPU or is there any other software people prefer (or do most people just do all your OCing through the BIOS? I'm assuming the 1070 in this laptop is an Nvidia Reference card or do they put something else in it? Lastly, is there any particular software you normally use to keep track of your temps, like AIDA64, Realtemp, etc that might keep track of the temps on everything better? I realize that there's not a lot of difference between overclocking a desktop vs overclocking a laptop, but I feel like I have less margin for error with this laptop than I do with my desktop, mostly because of the lack of cooling in this laptop and I don't know exactly what I'm working with yet.

Any advice here would be greatly appreciated.

 

I expect true Power enthusiasts will skip A new AW socket machine very fast, if Dell crippling Firmware like they did with last AW 18. Why should they want a socket machine if the machine go half speed? Only Socket hardware isn't enough!! Fully unlocked firmware is a must. Can Dell do this? I don't think so!! Just look into DELLINWARE's desktop rigs. Or talk with @Cass-Olé

 

... But reaching the mainstream would mean a lot of backing, which they would need to provide...

For example, if the company is a 10 men company right now and they achieve a 10.000 pieces sold per week, it'll kill their company, growth needs to be progressive to be sustainable ....

I think they all have a marketing specialist, but they need to keep growing slowly...

A new men needs a ton of training to do good job in building those .

 

these are the reasons (see all posts above) why i always recommend to either sell in a pure enthusiast environment, such as the NBR marketplace or go all in and offer worldwide shipping on ebay auctions when selling clevo machines. it does indeed work! heck, i got more than 1000 bucks for my defective, 4year old clevo p150hm. the basis for such good deals is the willingness to put some work into your auction (pics, description), to sell individual components rather than the whole thing (broader buyer audience), and, as mentioned before, offer it worldwide (again more interested buyers)

its like all things in life: nothing worth having is easy to accomplish

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CLEVO have crippling factors of their own and would be in the same position without Perma Magic. Let's not forget that.

It's because of Perma that makes our beasts so great to work at its maximum potential.

Never say never. MSI is close, just look at what they've been offering lately...

But yes...crippled bios. No bueno.

::iunlock::

 

I'd take crippled Clevo socketed laptop to the overcharged looks but rotten crippled hardware inside any day.. And apparently many of the Clevo owners do so because of the Geo-restrictions on parts / warranty /delivery etc not everyone can own a Prema powered hardware. I strongly condemn the BGA tactic, It's absolute blasphemy and massive exploitation of the sheep market for filling up the infinite void of greed of corporate. And accepting that kind of trash is like being a pawn / catalyst to this metastasizing cancerous approach of regression, against fundamental human expression of freedom / choice / liberty.

Prema / Svl7-John are really god send to the NBR/TI community and people like them are very rare breed, Glad to be witnessing the best of best. Newer generations can expect an infinite fold of gimped future ahead if these kool-aid castrated crap pumps more...So we should stand against this trash, and not to get succumbed but WIN. Wish Prema releases his work in future so that most of Clevo owners can experience the HW to their fullest.

 

It's kind of weird because the hardware seems to be getting more restricted (seems like hardware itself has a DRM when Clevo/NVIDIA/etc prevent you from being able to upgrade your laptop by forcing you to need an unnecessary extra power connector) but then I heard that stock BIOSes are starting to actually give more overclocking features and more features in general so if that's true that's obviously less restricted and that's good. It's like a fine balancing act. I don't even know what I'm saying anymore, I'm tired and I should be asleep..

 

I worked for a small, local computer company while I was in college (I graduated from high school in 1990),and at the time, we were buying SAGER laptops, which we could order customized just like they offer today. If this company is growing, it's growing at a single digit rate.

Oh, and one more thing, at the same time we purchased a large quantity of our inventory from a company called Ingram Micro. Today, they have a website, and most people deal with them directly through their website, which is Newegg. This alone shows how companies can adapt and grow exponentially, but they have to be wanting to do so. I think Sager wants to stay exactly in the niche they're in now, and we're in 20 years ago. (Geez, I'm old)

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I decided to go with i5-6600K, the performance boost and air-cooled OC potential in i7 for 100 GBP (125 USD) is not justified, in my opinion.

However, what is really annoying is that GTX 1060 vs 1070 desktop has a 150 GBP(180 USD) difference, while the mobile alternative here in the UK is almost 300 GBP. This is ridiculous
So, need to think again if it is a good and future proof upgrade from 1060 to 1070 with a 4K display.

 

I have the 4k display with 1080. (Im changing to the 1440p when it comes out).
I havent seen the performance of a 1060 but i really wouldnt expect it to run 60 fps at 4k. I think some of the threads with 15" lappies and 4k may have the answer. 4k seems to be so popular with those smaller models and they often run 1060

 

Are you changing because of the refresh rate of 120Hz? Planning to buy and change it yourself or how? Where will you be buying it?

 

Yes, the 120 hz. The 4k is gorgeous and pretty smooth for 60hz but i just cant go back and forth from my acer x34@100hz to 60hz. Makes my eyes want to explode.
My seller will swap the screen for a fair price. Thankfully

 

You need someone to invest money to grow, and a few other things, plus Sager is not that small right now.

But then, if clevo will be priced similarly to other laptops for the same configuration, another brand will come out cheaper.

Some must feel that the price is a part of why we go with clevo, especially since other companies don't offer certain configurations at all...

 

Sorry for OT...

Ahh. Great times. At the time my place of business had contracts with both Ingram Micro and Merisel. I had no idea that Ingram Micro went on to become NewEgg. While I never investigated, I thought NewEgg was some offshoot of EggHead that wanted to branch into HW. Thx for sharing!!

 

I can run my screen at 100hz with no stability isues and like it because it's what I'm used to with my X34 monitor. My question is if there is any possible long term damage doing this?
I beleive the last generation Clevo's shipped with the same screen and people OC'd them, so is there anyone who has been running like this for a long time or anyone who has experienced any long term issues?

 

I am considering the P775DM3, how many P775DM3 owners bought the warranety, pixel guarantee?

 

no long term effects that i know of. on my previous p150hm i had an FHD panel that i overclocked to 95 Hz, it ran like a champ for 4 years before my laptop gave out on me due to components unrelated to the display

have u tried anything higher than 100 hz? or did u just try 100 set it and thats it? ^^

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If your going for XMG will be expensive.. Have a look at PC Specialist lol..

 

me

 

If I only undervolt the CPU and leave the other stuff alone(tweaking, repasting, etc), will I have issues like heat/noise for 1070/1080?

For those who have this model and using headsets, is it annoying on the right side(the jack) since the mouse and your hand is on the right?

 

A right angle converter (or headphones with that) can help if you find it getting in the way.

 

Didn't know about that. Will the sound quality drop using this?

 

If you get one with a short length it wont even impact high end sets.

 

These guys work great for plugging in USB things so they don't get in your way too. Right side plugs will end up pointing towards the back of the laptop, left side plugs will point towards the front.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J4NLOOU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

how long have you had your laptop? Have you applied a better thermal paste and delidded your processor yourself,or did you have it done? Does doing either one void warranty?

I havent bought my laptop,what im trying to do is compile a list of things i need to do once i do get it. What programs to install that will be helpful in monitoring the laptop parameters etc. I do recall one such program but the name escapes me right now that someone wrote for this purpose.

 

Delid processor yourself void warranty, but still worth it. Hwinf64o for monitoring your hardware

 

What clevo control centre do you guys recommend. New machine turns up today EX windows install so will be spending my evening getting it running.

I know its late in the day now but got this horrible feeling that opting for a GTX1080 to game at 1080p may have been overkill!

 

Ive had it two weeks. I havent repasted. Its using IC diamond 7. I only software mod. I havent opened the case at all , although i doubt it would be a problem if I did.
Im not the best guy to ask all those details to but if you read the whole thread you should have all the tools needed to conquer this laptop. Loads of expert suggestions.

 

XMG UK (mySN UK) is slow, I emailed and asked them for a discount, since I can buy a similar laptop MUCH cheaper at PCS. More than a week passed, no reply.
While PCS is not super fast, but their communication is much better and decent enough.

I cannot find the 1080p and 4K display manufacturer and model details. Any info on it please?
Is it still the same 4K model AU B173ZAN01.0 (AUO109B)?

 

Can I recommend 3XS laptops for this chassis as an option for UK buyers. I have purchased from PCS, XMG and now 3XS (Scan) and must say the later has offered the best purchasing experience so far.

I am yet to get the laptop but from purchasing to shipping took 2 working days. I was e-mailed during every stage and even was sent photos of my laptop being tested/quality checked.

PCS were good but you have to pay for the express build time. XMG well, I wont be buying off them again. Great laptop but as mentioned the customer service sucks!

 

3XS is a bit on a pricier side compared to PCS. I would say XMG and 3XS run side by side price wise.

 

You say that but the machine, configured exactly as I have with express build on PCS comes back at 2425.

I paid 2340 from 3XS.

I will post more when I get the machine commenting on build quality etc but at the end of the day a clevo chassis is a clevo chassis.

 

Basic stats: i5-6600K, 32Gb 2133Mhz (HyperX@PCS vs Corsair@3XS), no SSD, GTX 1070, 4K display

PCS: 17.3 Octane III, 2022 GBP
Scan: 3XS LG17 Carbon, 2088 GBP

And this is with extended PCS 3 year warranty and 1 year dead pixel guarantee.

What are your stats?

P.S. I configured another 3XS and the price became very close to the one PCS offers (10 pounds cheaper). However, it does not include the 3y generic warranty and 1y dead pixel guarantee.

 

I7 6700k, 32GB, Intel 512GB M.2 SSD, GTX1080

Granted you don't get the option for 3 year warranty but if I'm not mistaken it comes with 2. Also worth mentioning 3XS use AC5 compound as standard.

Did abit of research and 3XS have had excellent user reviews with some of their builds winning awards.

Its all personal preference I guess.

 

Could anyone verify wether the 15 inch model has an HDMI 2.0 port? It's a must for me to drive a 4K 60Hz TV. Clevo's site, and pretty much every reseller I found, only list the fact there is an HDMI port and not the version of it.

 

yep its 2.0

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Yes and if you need more DP to HDMI 2.0 adapter should work too.

 

Great, thanks for answering.

DP -> HDMI is indeed an option but it requires an active converter for 4K 60Hz. I have one but it adds a small amount of latency which is not ideal