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    *** Official Clevo P770ZM / Sager NP9772 and P770ZM-G / Sager NP9773 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HTWingNut, Jan 6, 2015.

  1. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    No, the I2C and edid tools on my pre-built image will work on any system, regardless brand and whether it is an LVDS or eDP panel. The only situation where they will not work is where the panel's edid eeprom is write-protected, but ... well ... of course, then you wouldn't suffer this mess in the first place :vbtongue: .

    Ah, there's one other caveat; the gpu has to work using the native, open source drivers (see ' Nouveau'). Have to make a separate image with the Nvidia linux drivers for the non-nouveau situation since these can't run side-by-side, but that required more storage space than the current, self-imposed 1GB limit. Haven't yet found the time for this ... but only one user reported this bug so far and his display wasn't bricked, so there was no hurry.

    Instructions and tools here: Live and persistent Linux with edid tools (760 MB).
     
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    martastic Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, so i managed to connect my laptop with the tv and i got the picture like i expected, but now to get to the part you described that i have to do the EDID flash - there i have to admit that this is something im not at all familiar with. Can you maybe please describe what to do with the iso file you provided. Should i put it to bootable ms dos usb and boot it from there or what is the next thep? Thanks for the help so far!
     
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    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Yes, exactly. But no need to make a bootable dos stick first; the .img is linux and already bootable by itself. Use a 1:1 image writing tool ('Restore' option) and you're good to go.

    No need to install anything since it's live, so choose ' try without installing' once the lubuntu boot menu shows up. When you have it running just read the instructions and proceed step-by-step. Can't go wrong then, just take your time.
     
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    martastic Notebook Enthusiast

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    Okay, thanks so much, ill give it a try.

    How do i know which is the correct bin (in the panel nrs.txt file)
     
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    martastic Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, i added the image file through the restore button and it added the image file to the usb but nothing showed up after that. My usb is formatted to FAT32 by the way, if it helps.
     
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  6. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Run MonInfo. It will read the registry copy of the edid and optionally, depending on OS, read directly from the panel's edid eeprom chip. Copy/paste the ' raw data' section at the bottom of the ' Asset Information' pane, just to be sure.
     
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    martastic Notebook Enthusiast

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    Found the correct bin (n173hge-l11 in my case) but i really dont understand how do i copy it to the write edid folder?
    Thanks for dealing with a noob like me by the way.
     
  8. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    The bins are included in the live image's EDID folder, so once booted you can just copy/paste as usual. Linux also has access to your local hard drives, so you could copy from there as well.
     
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    martastic Notebook Enthusiast

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    Got to the part where i hitted yes for the i2c/smbus and got "found unknown smbus adapter..." and "sorry, no supported pci adapters found"
    "next adapter novoeau..... (i2c-0)
    "do you want to scan it?
    Didnt see the "using driver ...." part
    Also, sudo sensors tell me that my clevo p770zm is not applicable. Maybe this is the cause of all of this?
     
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  10. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Try skipping that step and proceed to 'sudo i2cdetect -l'. It's just a precaution and as long as the I2C devices are enumerated it shouldn't be a problem. The I2C tools that form the basis for the edid tools are no longer being developed, so can't update it, either.
     
  11. martastic

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    Do
    Do you think bios flash would resolve the issue. Just curious.
     
  12. t456

    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Bios as in 'sytem bios'? Sure, a full flash is even better than a cmos reset. Wouldn't be the first time a display has gone to sleep mode semi-permanently.

    For the lcd firmware flash; maybe. It would be the first desktop cpu laptop, afaik. Doesn't have to mean anything, though; maybe there's scores of desktop desktops having their monitors bricked. Do know of at least one example of a Dell-pc+monitor combo, but that was really just a laptop in disguise.

    You may verify edid corruption by running this registry export:
    https://app.box.com/export-edid-and-driver-values

    However, it can only confirm corrupt values, but cannot prove non-corruption. That is; any erroneous values would mean that edid flashing will revive the panel. Yet if the registry edid is fine than that does not mean that the same applies to the actual edid as stored in the panel; the panel's edid may be corrupt, yet the registry's can still be fine.
     
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    Can you only pop the 4970 series i7's in these ?
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    You mean 4790K, yes you can..

    Does anyone know that if I have a non-GSync P771ZM, I get a GSync 980M GPU and flash the GSync BIOS to the machine, will I have GSync?
     
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    you'd need a gsync lcd as well.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Any fourth generation desktop socketed processor will work.
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    The LG 1080p IPS display is a GSync capable display as far as I know... @Prema any idea ?
     
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    You're right
     
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    So after some 2 worrisome weeks i finally got my laptop back in working order. At first i tried to follow the directions what t456 gave, but it showed way too over my head so i headed for the repairs, explained that my edid got corrupted and after one week i got the response that my whole lcd panel has to be replaced for 150€. Allegedly my backlight gave up so i was little bit of surprised by that. I respectfully declined their offer and decided if that´s the case and not the edid problem caused by my careless use of programs and overclocking, that i should take it to the warranty.
    Another week went by and it turned out that indeed, my backlight was dead and they had to replace it.
    So am i misunderstanding something here because i had all the symptoms that my edid got corrupted due to EVGA?
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    If the backlight goes then you would get an extremely faint image on the screen (from the reflected external light).
     
  22. Kommando

    Kommando Notebook Evangelist

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    You can install all i3/5/7 4XXX (Haswell/Devils Canyon) or 5XXX (Broadwell) Desktop Processors in this laptop.
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Indeed and there is no processor called 4970 it is the 4790K :p
     
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    There was a non-k 4790 too.
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Doesn't exist in my dictionary :p
     
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    There is a place for all the hardware ;)
     
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    Hey guys I reinstalled windows, and I need the keyboard software any idea where to find it, I got a p170em and I got a custom driver that had a pretty awesome audio setting for the lights I want to find one like it or can I use that one in this pc
     
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    Mr Najsman Notebook Deity

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    I got a voucher for Witcher 3 with my purchase last May. I didn´t read the fineprint and just tried to redeem it.
    This is a general reminder if you got a Witcher 3-voucher last May, you´re about 11 months too late to redeem it.
     
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    That bites :( But yeah they are usually pretty strict on the redeem dates.
     
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    Yeah, those game codes from Nvidia have some expiration dates to them basically. Even if you don't plan on downloading the game, it's best to just redeem them once you get it so the games end up in your Steam or Uplay accounts for later use.
     
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    Yeah now I know :p I didn't read it and figured it was a code just like a Steam code sitting idle.
     
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    It prevents grey market trading and it gives an early cementing of numbers for the agreement with the developer, sucks if you miss it though :(
     
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    Is there a way to enter BIOS on an external monitor (projector) connected to P770ZM laptop? Alternatively, is there a way to completely disable the internal laptop display such that BIOS Splash Screen and OS display is available on the external monitor only?
     
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    You can certainly set windows to show on any display you like but on the stock BIOS the internal screen is always used for the BIOS.
     
  36. DaveFromGameaVision

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    Hey guys I've got a serious issue with my 770ZM-G and was hoping for some input. I did a fresh install of Windows 10 Pro earlier this week and while playing GTA 5 today and my laptop shut off twice. The first time Windows just said "Shutting down" and the second time it just shut off. I booted it up to the BIOS and used fn+1 to cool it off before I rebooted. Both time I had the fans on max with fn+1 but the second time I had it forced in the Clevo software to high performance and max fan. It seems like my fans are resetting for some reason and returning to slow or off and not coming back on. The first shutdown happened in 5 mins of launching the game and the second took about 2.5 hours. Any ideas? Running stock on the 980M (1100MHz boost) and 4.2 on the CPU. Never overheated once before I reinstalled. Temps are very good with the fans at max.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Did you install the correct version of control center? Also, after logging in, once it initializes the control center, it resets the fans from max to auto. After that occurs, just fn+1 and they'll stay on.

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    Is the battery drained at all on boot?
     
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    No the battery is fully charged 99% of the time. I try to drain it every few months but I don't play games while it is draining.

    I installed the Windows 8.1 version from the Clevo website. It was working fine after I did an upgrade install from 8.1 > 10 last time.
     
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    It's just a check as sometimes the brick gives out and the battery is drained so the system shuts off.

    Have you tried the latest chipset drivers?
     
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    Yes, all my drivers are the latest version. I repasted this morning and played around with my CPU clock/voltage and it seems to be doing better. My fans are sluggish to come back on after switching off max fan for auto so maybe I just need to let it cool down before I switch them off. I will keep an eye on the fans and update if it overheats again. Thanks for the help. :)

    edit: What's a typical OC for the 980M? I'm stable at +150 core +200 memory so far.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Depends on the vbios, your specific card, and your heat range... So that is harder to say...

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
  43. DaveFromGameaVision

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    Gotcha. I'm hoping to get mine a little higher, running Prema vBIOS 2, stock 1.062 volts. So far max temp is 63C.
     
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    Step up the voltage slowly and keep the ram and core close until you can't increase the core anymore. Then increase the ram as far as it can. If you go under on voltage, it crashes the driver. You go over, black screen shutdown.

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    Thanks for all the tips. I am stable in GTA 5 at 1306MHz core at the stock 1.06V. Max temp is 67C. I'm thinking I will cut the bottom cover some more (already cut new fan holes) and thermal epoxy some heatsinks over the GPU and CPU this week, maybe use the thermal epoxy on the sides and use CLU in the middle. I'll mod my cooling pad to blow air directly on them as well.

    1326MHz causes a crash in GTA about 5 mins in but it will bench Firestrike at 1376 at the same 1.06V.

    EDIT:
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    Yeah, disabling the internal display through Windows is trivial, but the actual problem is to disable it even for BIOS. Is there no way to somehow force the system to show BIOS Menu on an external monitor? It’s fine if it’s a clone display option with both the internal display and the external monitor showing the Stock BIOS.
     
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    You probably won't be able to get it to display the BIOS on an external screen. I can't think of a laptop that allows that, I assume it has something to do with not having all of the parts initialized at start up so you only get display on the internal screen. Even with the internal LCD disconnected it will not output the BIOS to an external monitor. Maybe you can modify the BIOS to get it to output to an external screen? I can check in my Prema BIOS but I don't think I have an option for anything like that.
     
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    Not on the stock BIOS no, and I am not sure even a custom BIOS will do it.

    You used to be able to on VGA ports, but with them dying out there is not that option.
     
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    Well, my projector does have a VGA port but the laptop doesn’t. I guess if I use an HDMI to VGA adapter, the BIOS menu will still show up on the internal display. Or will it show up in the projector as well, over the VGA connection?
     
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    It has to be over a native VGA connection (this is due to how the are initialized in the BIOS).
     
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