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    *** Official Clevo P770ZM / Sager NP9772 and P770ZM-G / Sager NP9773 Owner's Lounge ***

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  1. Logispice

    Logispice Notebook Guru

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    is that the same IPS as the Alienware 17?
     
  2. superkyle1721

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    @jaybee83 I read through the rules and I was wondering with so many test available how you are going to do the rankings. I think it would be best to base it off of an average score between two bench marks. One that uses a lot of vram and one that doesn't.
     
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    I think it's better to have diversity in the benchmarks. Your suggestion is great for a quick and dirty ranking, but otherwise I prefer many different points of reference
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    nobody says u have to go through them all :) choose your favorite benchmark and post the results, thats it ;) if anyone wants to compete in a different bench, then shes/hes free to do so :)
     
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    oh man, I can't wait for my new memory to arrive finally. My current ones are pretty crappy. (it's 1333MHz CL9, and I had to downgrade it to 10-10-10-31, because I suspect it did cause some BSODs before)

    Edit.: G.Skill 2133 MHz kit incoming :)
     
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    Ok guys going to take my batman from a single 850 to raid 0 2x 850 pro. I'm new to setting up raid 0 and a little unsure about the correct bios settings to use. Can anyone tell me how they set it up and also how to properly wipe a drive to factory state. I know I can use the hot plug method but that's not exactly easy considering I would need the laptop to be open for that. Any advice and or steps explaining what to do would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    Make sure the controller is in RAID mode and there is no data you want on either hard drive. Go into the raid menu (either in the bios or a boot screen you will now see as you are in raid mode) and set the drives into a raid config, stripe size wont make much difference so set it to 128k. Once setup you should just be able to install windows to it.
     
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    Thanks @Meaker if I have any problems I'll post.
     
  9. Logispice

    Logispice Notebook Guru

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    What model and specs? Thank you.
     
  10. D2 Ultima

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    The P771ZM?
     
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    Replaced the thermal pad for the Vram both under the card and above with Phobya and used Phobya nanogrease extreme for the core.

    Also the only IPS offer so far is the LG is disappointing, pass on that.

    What panel does Asus G75 use?
     
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    LG
     
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    Bummer. I'm tempted but I'm not. I'll wait til summer to see if anything else becomes an option.
     
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    Do you guys recommend setting the raid setup to UFEI or not?
    Edit also is there anything special I should know about installing via thumb drive? I know windows 7 had issues but I'm assuming windows 8 should work flawlessly?

    Edit: well crap now I've got a new copy of windows installed but it is not raid 0. Only one drive is showing up. Obviously I'm doing something wrong. For those of you who have the raid set up properly do you mind telling me how you did it?

    I have gone into the bios as set the sata type to raid. Then booted from usb with UFEI turned on. When I get to select the drives they are not set up in raid. I've installed on a single drive figuring I could always do it through disk management but since it is a boot drive I can't do it that way. Why on earth is it not showing up as a raid volume after setting it as such in bios. I also made sure to install the raid drivers before installing windows on the disk. I'm lost. Any help would be really appreciated.
     
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  15. Logispice

    Logispice Notebook Guru

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    Ah, the IPS display that was just added for it.
    If I recall correctly, people have mentioned that there are only 2 IPS displays in production right now for 17.3.
    Curious if it's the same one as in the AW17, as I really like it.
     
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    Don't know about that but has similar specs to the TN panel currently. Just better viewing angles due to IPS.
     
  17. Scerate

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    Guild Wars 2 demanding as fu*k, taxing my NB and sh*t :p (playing the Game @ Ultra with Supersampling turned on takes it's toll it seems, stress testing CPU only with XTU i get about 85 °C max) GPU @ stock and CPU @ 4.2 @ stock voltage

    [​IMG]
     
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    Still never figured out the raid setup if anyone would help...
     
  19. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    i would if i could, but ive never set up a raid before :D but yeah, id have probably done the same as you, set raid in bios and install away...

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Haha I appreciate it. I have set it up only once in the past. Basically yeah switch over to raid then install from s flash drive but when asked which installation drive load up the raid driver and done. This time I wasn't so lucky. I'm sure I'm missing some stupid simple step but I spent 2 hours trying and 5 windows installs later and still nothing :(
     
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    i think there are 2 ways, the first way is the way i did on my P150SM when using the Smart Cache. Like @jaybee83 said just set RAID in the BIOS and install, after you install the Chipset and IRST Drivers you can actually create the RAID Arrays with the Software. The 2nd way would be to disable UEFI and set RAID in BIOS, why you might ask, i can tell you why, when disabling the UEFI Module the Mainboard is forced to load the RAID ROM in that case "i guess" that when you boot you can press e.g. Ctrl+I to start the RAID ROM and set it up there, after you set it up you can propably put back UEFI Mode and install the OS.

    Edit: Third way would be ghetto but it works too. Install OS with AHCI and install all the drivers Chipset, IRST ... then after you did that set RAID Mode in BIOS, it will propably BSOD the OS, but if you can force the OS to actually display the text "Attempting automatic repair" (dunno exactly how it's worded using the german Win8.1) you can reboot into safe mode, it should work, after you booted into safe mode, just reboot normally and it should work now too as RAID and set up the rest in the IRST Software.
     
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    Thank you for your reply. As soon as I get back from out of town I will try again. I tried doing the software raid but since it is a boot drive you can't do it that way. I also wanted to make sure I was installing it in UEFI to get the increased boot time but under that mode ctrl I didn't work. I'll play around with it and once I figure it out I'll PM jaybee and get him to add it to the first page.
     
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    cant do it here though, that would be over at the batcave ;)

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Did you try adding drivers at the partition/format screen after setting up the bios, turning off fast boot and rapid start... I can't remember if you mentioned loading the raid drivers there
     
  25. Scerate

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    [​IMG]

    just saw that there are actually RAID Drivers on the Driver CD wich you can use to install the OS as you can see in my adress bar


    edit:
    btw Hotkey Driver 3.11.24 adds a new option to the Fan Profile Settings, but kills the Keyboard LED Control e.g. FN+* for turn Light on/off.

    [​IMG]

    don't have values but it seems like it's the same as automatic but if CPU is getting to about 70-75 °C the fan ramps up instantly to max.
     
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  26. Scerate

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    delete plz
     
  27. jaybee83

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    huh? i had that option there before already on hotkey version 3.09.22 :)

    also, max as in 80% max or 100% max?
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    3.09.x is win 8; 3.11.x is the Windows 7 driver if I remember correctly
     
  29. Scerate

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    i think it sounds like 100%, actually like Fn+1 and i swear it wasn't there with 3.09.22, have to doublecheck it :eek:

    would be funny tbh, cause i downloaded these from the clevo ftp and they were stated as W8.1 drivers
     
  30. Ramzay

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    Could you give us the exact model # of the IPS panel?
     
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    All models I'm aware of that use a 17.3" IPS panel have the LG model. AW17, Acer V Nitro, Lenovo Y70 and ASUS G751.

    I personally like it, it's nice. Then again, I'm no graphics pro.
     
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    Just wanted to say that my -S model has been delayed until after the next shipment arrives on 2 April. Nothing to do about it except weep ;)
     
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    yeah, xmg has the 3.11.24 version listed under win8.1 as well :)
     
  34. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    Don't cry :(
    Well, hopefully that date provided to you stays accurate.
     
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    I actually feel more sorry for the guy who is buying my G75. He has a piece of junk for a laptop and has to wait for me to get mine. At least I'm on a G75.
     
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    Thats good that you at least have a good notebook to use while you wait :D
     
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    just curious is the Prema VBios for the 980m now 1.075v stock or 1.062v? Cause i just got my old 980m from the p150sm back and noticed that in Valley my card runs at 1.075v
     
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    its 1.062V...
     
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    weird then dunno maybe DDU would fix it but too lazy
     
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    1.0500V for the 4GB 980M.
     
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    Anandtech has a good article on overclocking a P770ZM: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9087/clevo-p750zm-gtx-980m-overclocking-investigated

    The article mostly focuses on GPU overclocking as the author notes that overclocking the 4790K may introduce some cooling issues. I found the section on power requirements very enlightening. I think most people - myself included - assumed that a 230W power supply would be more than sufficient. However, the power usage charts show otherwise. If you are heavily overclocking both the 4790K and the 980M, you are probably exceeding the power ratings on the 230W block.

    I am not trying to be a party pooper. I just thought I'd give everyone a heads up. :)
     
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    It's for this reason some retailers offer a 330W brick :)
     
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    If overclocking both the CPU and GPU then yes you'll want the 330w upgrade. But if you're not overclocking, then the stock 230 will handle it.
     
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    Yep, prostar has them listed separately, but I noticed that the driver date on the clevo website (2/5) is newer than the date on prostar (1/27). In any case, looks like it is for 8.1 as well.
     
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    tbh completely honest i downloaded the 3.09 Hotkey driver from the Prostar Website, cause like i said the newest one deactivated my Keyboard Led Controls and Fn+Esc, now with the 3.09 i still have that XTU Fan Profile but the KB Controls work again
     
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    That article actually points to the 230W brick being fine due to power supply loses, 265W from the wall is likely to be 212 to 225.25W from the brick to the machine (what the brick rating is for).

    So as always it depends on what you are doing with the machine and how far you intend to push it.
     
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    Anyone here already own a Eurocom P5/P7 that could answer some questions for me from an owners perspective please...?

    I'm across the Pond in the UK and looking to run Vegas 12(+) on a dedicated portable workstation. I'm attracted to the upgradeability of this machine and having a condensed desktop environment to allow some serious computing power that is completely portable.

    cheers
     
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    OK so what did you want to ask in relation to that?

     
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    Is there anyway of customising the fan profiles that hotkey uses, or even a different program to do that job?

    I'm pretty sure I could create a better profile than the stock versions.

    Oh and anyone know what the XMG profile gives in the latest release?

    Cheers :)
     
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    huh weird, i still have both Fn+Esc and keyboard backlighting on/off functionality on the 3.11 version...
     
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