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There's no benefit to hibernation with current ssd's. Waste of writes also.

 

for the sound thing, Jaybee83 and Abol mentioned installing the clevo specific drivers. Have you tried downloading the ones from clevo (or maybe even xmg's site) instead of the sager ones you mentioned, and did those work? I'm interested too because I'm planning to purchase a sager/clevo in the coming future. didn't realize they have specific drivers for their products.

Ah, and I'm sorry to hear about the shipping. Hopefully it will not come to that.
Have you spoken with xoticpc's tech service on this yet? Best to troubleshoot with professionals, especially early on when you've just received the item.

Thank you for the thanks, but quite honestly, most thanks should go to D2 Ultima. Most concise response. Contacting your retailer and asking them what it could be is highly recommended.

 

generally speaking you can use drivers directly from the hardware vendors. (For example you can use the display driver directly from nvidia). I suspect that the problem specifically with the audio is that there is a custom driver/hardware to let sound blaster software work with the realtek chip.

Edit.: The audio itself works with the driver directly from realtek, just not the soundblaster software

 

yupyup normally im a stickler when it comes to having the most up to date drivers, so i always search the component manufacturer sites up and down as well as station-drivers.com

when it comes to sound and touchpad though, i learned to stick to the original drivers from clevo, since

1) u dont gain any benefits from newer versions
2) in both cases, u manually have to test tons of newer versions to find a properly working one by chance

speaking of new drivers, intel rapid storage is now available in version 14

http://www.station-drivers.com/index.php/downloads/func-startdown/1181/

 

I have some qualms about the touchpad though... Anyone knows how to turn off some gestures? (Like I sometimes activate the charm bar). Also it sometimes appear to hang for no apparent reason before continuing to work again

 

Definitely true! Although I haven't always received problems with the audio, the touchpad synaptec drivers ALWAYS screw up if you use the reference driver (or so it seems to me).'

BTW, Prostar had to have done something. After further testing, some scenarios for my pre-sets show 4 degrees cooler. Others crash upon load instantly (such as my settings for 4.4 and 4.5) (which shouldn't happen as those settings where previously stable in XTU, wPrime, and BurnIn Test. Other than that, I'm almost done moving things from my other hard drive to my current one, then I can consolidate files from an old backup and clear my 2TB external!

As for OS, I recently started playing with Windows 8.1 and 10 Tech Preview. From what I can tell, Windows 10 is what 8 and 8.1 should have been and I am gladly going to switch to it from 7 Pro for the speed benefits of 8, but without the amount of Metro UI etc. that 8 had (8.1 is better than 8, but 10 is better than 8.1).

 

Im sure most of you guys have already read this but I found it an interesting read. There are some things he did that I would of never though about. Anywho if you are considering running raid or just simply want to run your single SSD in raid to boost performance this should help you out
http://www.tweaktown.com/guides/680...ssd-performance-installation-guide/index.html


How are the drivers for windows 10? Any crashes or issues? I planned to install windows 10 preview when my second SSD arrives and I swap over to raid 0.

 

Right now, I just have the one hard drive in so I haven't tested raid yet. So far there hasn't been much of an issue for driver support (surprisingly). It is pretty straight-forward install and go. I think I installed the audio, fingerprint, airplane and chipset (the last two are the only ones necessary to remove all ? from device manager). It seems to do well with Win 8.1 drivers, so shouldn't be a problem.

 

I just found out last night you can actually run a single SSD in raid and get quite the boost in speed. I guess I never thought about it. It will also allow you to change over to a 2 SSD raid setup with ease instead of needing to do a clean install.

 

Not quite sure that is accurate because you are limited to the speed of the SATA port it is connected to. If the max speed for that port is 6Gb/s which most SSD will saturate, then setting it up in RAID does not make it any faster because you wont get faster then 6Gb/s.

 

As of right now I don't have it setup as raid so I can't say for sure. What you are saying is what I have always thought. The link I posted above was giving comparisons as well as a few other links I came across and they show with correct partitioning and settings you can achieve better SSD speed. I'm sure you know much more about it than I do. If you have time read through the link above and tell me what you think.

Edit: I mean you must be correct a cable can only transfer so fast. The only benefit I can think of May be due to caching or something. Again this is just from reading I have not tested any of this myself.

 

Thats cool, you're just trying to share helpful information which is always appreciated!

 

You could try my screen, AUO B173HW01 v5. I personally find it much better than the Chi Mei, which I have in my older ASUS.

 

It's called the default panel on the Lenovo Y50. Had one. There was ALWAYS discoloration due to bad viewing angles. It was impossible to find a position where the entire screen wasn't showing some sort of colour-shifting.

 

And I've yet to have any issues with any of the Killer cards I've had (1202 + 1525). Plenty of Intel issues though.

Tons of threads out there about issues with the Intel cards. Neither card is perfect.

 

well, they only saturate it in sequential mode... Random IO is still problematic, and if the RAID driver has lower overhead than the standard SATA driver, I can see it having a perf. benefit. Would love to see some hard numbers tho!

 

Eh I avoid Killer because it's Qualcomm and Qualcomm is all kinds of fail, including their crappy ARM chips for phones. Next phone, I hope it has Intel.

 

No thanks. No thanks to any wide gamut panel on a laptop, unless Clevo releases some change for sRGB mode for wide gamut panels, otherwise, no. If AUO has a brighter, higher contrast and maybe better color accuracy sRGB panel, I'm all for it.

 

Zymphad really? Qualcomm chips are some of the best out there ( I wouldn't want Mediatek, Samsung's Exynos chips in my phone)... Every Qualcomm phone has worked perfectly for me... Maybe you shouldn't be buying budget phones and blamming them.. You get what you pay for (Snapdragon S4 Pro in Nexus 7, Snapdragon 800 in LG G2 and Sony Xperia Z1 and 801 in Z2 here and all work perfectly)... As for Intel, I like them, their new chip in the Asus Zenphone 2 is good but the 805 runs all over it... Intel also has problems with app compatibility..

 

Why are you assuming I'm buying budget? Nexus 5 came with the best Qualcomm had to offer and it sucks. It runs hot, still can't multi-task with it, still can't watch videos properly on it like 1080p. It's Qualcomm so I expect nothing more than suck, I'm hoping Intel chips will be adopted faster soon. And 805 does not run over anything. Even Apple's A8 is preferable to the 805.

And had the SnapDragon S4 in LG G prior and that was absolute poop. It was awful, no battery, HOT HOT HOT, and still sucked.

I'd rather have MediaTek's new chip, that can play 4K video, this junk can't even do 1080p.

I HATE Qualcomm. It's everything I hated before. Qualcomm is freaking Atheros and AMD's crap Adreno combined + crap ARM. It's 3 horrible crap smooshed into one. It's sad and pathetic in the massive market for phones, there is so little competition, LG, Motorolla, Broadcom and others need to get into the game and give Qualcomm the boot and produce something better than these crappy Snapdragons.

 

I have the note 3 with snapdragon 800 and it runs really well, I also have nvidia shield with K1 which is good too

 

Think you're over exaggerating. A little tweaking here and there and most of qulacomm's has been fine. A8 has some advantages but they're sqaushed when you push the phone. Exynos would be a lot more fun if Samsung would release source. Haven't tried nvidia's new chips but on paper look freaking awesome. For tablet form factor or equivalent at least.

 

I had all of those symptoms on my Nexus 5 (with Android 5.0.1)... until I upgraded to Android 5.1. It's a night and day difference. Update ASAP. It literally makes it feel as if you've just bought a brand new phone. The performance/multitasking issues were entirely the OS's fault, not the hardware.

 

Again, what makes you think I haven't? I compile my own roms, hence why I have N5. Qualcomm and ARM just sucks.

 

Yay! we're phone buddies!

 

Oh, so you're still getting the memory leak in 5.1? I've read a few articles that some users are still impacted on 5.1 and apparently Google have already internally fixed it. 5.1.1 is hopefully out soon! I haven't yet encountered it, luckily.

 

Are you running Android on your P770? WTF??? lol

 

You can. But he's probably compiling in linux unless a windows compiler has surfaced that I haven't heard about.

 

Sorry to hijack the topic, but I finally got my P770 in recently, went full bore and got the NP9772-S from xoticPC, with the 980M, 4790k, and 32gb Hyper-X RAM. So far, I love the performance, although I'm not too keen on how well the finish holds oils from your hand/arms.

Anyways, as soon as I booted up the machine I downloaded Prime95, Aida, and a few other benchmarking programs to test out the performance and heat. Well, I opened up P95, and started the small FFTs test, and the temperature instantly jumped from 40* all the way up to about 98* on all cores. I thought maybe it was the paste, as everything was still stock, except the drivers being updated, so I ordered some of the Gelid GC Extreme, and swapped the paste out for this. The stock paste was globbed on...it was just a mess...thick, and even felt a bit hard, like I could have peeled it off. Well, I got the Gelid on there, and now when I use P95, the temps jump up to about 96* and just keep rising. I haven't ran any longer than about 3 minutes, because I don't want to ruin anything, but the temps haven't gone above 100* yet.

Is there anything to be concerned about here, or are these results normal with everything stock? Thanks.

 

This is normal and if you read through you will see this is why we all opt to under volt. Some have even gone to the extreme and delidded the cpu. After you under volt you will find that temps will be much safer.

 

You should also use max fans and prop the back of the notebook up too. You'll find it does not nearly hit that heat so quickly.

 

Thanks for the quick responses. I do have a cooler master laptop cooler thing that I use when I'm at home, but it doesn't travel well because of how large it is, so I was doing it without the cooler to see what the temps looked like that way. I guess I'll be re-reading through the thread, unless someone has a specific post I should refer to in mind? Or maybe there is something that would help out over on the P750ZM thread?

 

I am a little busy so I can't give you the complete walk though now but essentially you will want to download extreme tuning utility from Intel. Once inside you will want to lower your dynamic offset as well as your cache offset. Do this in steps of 10 however you can start around -60mV. After each 10mV decrease run prime95 small fft (temps. Will still be high but this will test stability) for 20 minutes. If it doesn't crash decrease another 10mv. Do this for both that I stated above and you should knock off around 10 degrees.

Edit you can also take a look at the first page of the P750zm thread as jaybee has supplied a walk through there. Reading that will teach you a lot.

 

Thanks for the info Kyle.

 

sorry double post*

 

Guys, does p770zm still have coil whine issue? Need to know before make my purchase, thx.

 

Personally I have not heard of any coil whine issues. I don't have any.

 

not all machines have that whining issue, and even those who do are not always audible unless u put ur ear directly to the machine (in my case, for example), so not always an actual "issue"

however, clevo has investigated this and found the specific mobo component responsible for this, so there is the possibility to RMA ur machine if it bothers u too much and get that fix. i presume that all newer models will have that fix implemented right from the beginning....

 

So I mentioned that I had some problems with the touchpad. Seems that the culprit is the synaptics software itself. When the os drive is under heavy load, it tends to freeze up, stopping the touchpad from working. Shutting down the software completely resolves this issue, but of course you lose most of the gestures.

 

are u using the stock touchpad driver or a newer version from the synaptics website / other sources? its generally best to stick with the original manufacturer version in this case...

 

I am using the one from xmg

 

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Sorry what is coil whine? I get a weird sound, almost like you're talking to someone on a cell phone and it's windy on their side? Not often, and it's not very loud. Muting speakers does not make it go away.

 

Something like this?

Noise P751ZM - Vídeo Dailymotion by Samot posted Feb 20, 2015 at 1:31 AM

 

coil whine is a sound made by vibrating coils -

 

Anybody know the specs on the IPS screen?

 

Hmm no, not really. Higher pitched and it changes a bit in intensity. Not very loud. I'll try and capture it, but it's pretty infrequent.

I almost feel it is coming from the speaker bar but muting the sound doesn't make it go away. Almost sounds like feedback or something.

 

if it's the LG one, it's almost exactly the same as the TN one performance-wise

 

That's what I thought but wasn't sure. Not worth the price and effort then. Boo.

 

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